DUST Search - The New OP Python Fit

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Roofer Madness wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Roofer Madness wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

I can get 2.5k shield and still have a hardener on it

I think you missed the entire point. No hardener is necessary. In fact it just causes more trouble for the pilot. You are only getting 40% hardened shields while your hardener is active. That leaves too much downtime and room for error. My fit is just zoom away and instantly rep. And at over 3000 shields you will NOT get 1 shotted.

2500 shields

40% of that is an extra 1000shield, add in basic shield resists to armor AV weapons and its a bit more

I have more health that you when hardener is on still, when its off you get the advantage of 600shields but i still have my AB so i can still bug out and with the fit i havnt got 1 shotted yet

The benefit of 600 shields that reps back in 4 to 9 seconds is sometimes the difference between escape and a fiery death. Also, IMO the hardeners encourage hanging around in one area too long, which is death for an ADS.

And if you get nailed with a Breach Forge or a rail turret and then engage hardener you are not geting 40% of 2500 but more likely 40% of 1000. And then getting hit again because you are playing with your hardener instead of engaging afterburner. Then your shields are depleted and your dead.

Yea no


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Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 934	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:36:00 - [1] - Quote Python 1 Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender 1 Basic Heavy Shield Extender 1 Basic Afterburner 1 Complex PG Upgrade 2134 Shields 908 Armor Now - at first glance it looks like a boring fit. No hardeners or boosters? Laaaaaaame. But this is a 1.8 world we live in. With the nerf to rail guns and hardeners all you really need to do is tank enough alpha damage to get away. The shield recharge on the Python is 224. And with maxed shield skills you get a depleted charge of 9 seconds and regular charge of 4. As soon as you take any moderate damage engage the afternurner. By the time the afterburner is cooled down you will be full health and ready to go. The key to survivability is not to harden or tank damage but to just not get hit more than one to begin and then rep through. I got the idea from the OP rep tanks and then applied it to shields. The movement of the Python is necessary to the whole fit. Your welcome. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 934	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:41:00 - [2] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: And then it insta-flames because some jerk with a PLC made you jerk into a lamp post. True. I lost the most Pythons this cap due to pilot error. But that is a good thing!! Also, good for that dude for using a PLC!!!!!! I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 935	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:51:00 - [3] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I can get 2.5k shield and still have a hardener on it I think you missed the entire point. No hardener is necessary. In fact it just causes more trouble for the pilot. You are only getting 40% hardened shields while your hardener is active. That leaves too much downtime and room for error. My fit is just zoom away and instantly rep. And at over 3000 shields you will NOT get 1 shotted. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 935	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:54:00 - [4] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: This is my same fit, except I use a Cplx light over the basic heavy. Only loose about 100ehp but I can fit a complex AB and XT missiles easily. I used this before the nerf to hardeners because it had about as much ehp as a hardener stock but it was up at all times, allowed the use of an AB, and didn't need to recharge at all (minus the 8-ish seconds for the AB to recharge). I've thought about that fit as well but I feel the Basic Afterburner does enough and cools down quick enough for my needs. And I didn't list it but my fit also is with an XT-1 Proto missile turret. Incidentally, for 700,000 more SP I can put 2 points into the Fitting Op for the small missile turret and get 58 more Shields.... lol I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 935	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:01:00 - [5] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I can get 2.5k shield and still have a hardener on it I think you missed the entire point. No hardener is necessary. In fact it just causes more trouble for the pilot. You are only getting 40% hardened shields while your hardener is active. That leaves too much downtime and room for error. My fit is just zoom away and instantly rep. And at over 3000 shields you will NOT get 1 shotted. 2500 shields 40% of that is an extra 1000shield, add in basic shield resists to armor AV weapons and its a bit more I have more health that you when hardener is on still, when its off you get the advantage of 600shields but i still have my AB so i can still bug out and with the fit i havnt got 1 shotted yet The benefit of 600 shields that reps back in 4 to 9 seconds is sometimes the difference between escape and a fiery death. Also, IMO the hardeners encourage hanging around in one area too long, which is death for an ADS. And if you get nailed with a Breach Forge or a rail turret and then engage hardener you are not geting 40% of 2500 but more likely 40% of 1000. And then getting hit again because you are playing with your hardener instead of engaging afterburner. Then your shields are depleted and your dead. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 935	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:05:00 - [6] - Quote Kosakai wrote: good fit but... nothink new Well, new to me. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 936	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:10:00 - [7] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: And then it insta-flames because some asshat with a PLC made you jerk into a lamp post. More like "And then it insta-flames because some asshat with an Incubus rammed you." lol I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 938	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:49:00 - [8] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I can get 2.5k shield and still have a hardener on it I think you missed the entire point. No hardener is necessary. In fact it just causes more trouble for the pilot. You are only getting 40% hardened shields while your hardener is active. That leaves too much downtime and room for error. My fit is just zoom away and instantly rep. And at over 3000 shields you will NOT get 1 shotted. 2500 shields 40% of that is an extra 1000shield, add in basic shield resists to armor AV weapons and its a bit more I have more health that you when hardener is on still, when its off you get the advantage of 600shields but i still have my AB so i can still bug out and with the fit i havnt got 1 shotted yet The benefit of 600 shields that reps back in 4 to 9 seconds is sometimes the difference between escape and a fiery death. Also, IMO the hardeners encourage hanging around in one area too long, which is death for an ADS. And if you get nailed with a Breach Forge or a rail turret and then engage hardener you are not geting 40% of 2500 but more likely 40% of 1000. And then getting hit again because you are playing with your hardener instead of engaging afterburner. Then your shields are depleted and your dead. Yea no Care to elaborate? I am just speaking from my own experience. My play style in the ADS is very hit and run. Let's have your fit so I can give it a go? I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.