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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:02:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:People seem to forget, you only fight 16 people at a time in this game. You can face the largest alliances in this game, because they can only put 16 in front of you at a time.
The last few weeks I have seen "nobodies" in this game step up and face down the "elite" of New Eden. I've seen new tactics be developed, skill improve by necessity, and PFC corps take Escrow down to 1/4 armor on the MCC. I've seen 0.H beat the f*ck out of Escrow with only a clonepack, and against EvE Orbital Support. I've shot every person on the leaders boards in the face countless times over.
It is true, the best players are scattered in different corps. But DNS does not have the best of anything, they don't have the best Scouts, ADS pilots, Assaults, Heavies, etc... They have the knowledge, experience, and tactics... all which can be over-came with brain power.
Nothing lasts forever in New Eden, it up to you if you want to be a catalyst or not. These "elites" have all been beaten before, and kicked from New Eden, so it will happen again. If you're tired of them trying to enforce their will, then dimply don't allow it.
AE has the best scouts though 
I'm pretty good...Rampage is a helluva lot better though... He's a ******* beast. Makes me and roner look like academy scrubs lol. 
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 5 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
289
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:15:00 -
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o7 patience young soldiers for empires shall crumble in du time don't ever underestimate the fight in the dust underdog warriors when they come together for a purpose of takeing down the powers that be.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
326
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:35:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums.
I prefer to play solo. 99% of the community is made of morons. .9% of the community is in to tier corps. .1% is solo players that know what they are doing. Since I cant take this game seriously anymore, I sit snugly with the solo players.
I dont belive in this community.
Submit or be biomassed.
I do not know love, only ( -í° -£-û -í°).
Closed Beta Vet
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2414
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:43:00 -
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Full-Stacked Proto Stomping is Annoying, but you want to deal with it using full stacked squads?
If you are asking people to get involved in PC again count me in (8-10 PM GMT+00)
If you are asking people to squad together for pubs, ill squad with who I want, the fact I go lone ranger doesn't discredit concerns over stacked squads being set against noobs.
No Offence Intended 
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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The-Beard
Dorsai Chaotix
147
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Posted - 2014.04.07 11:49:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums.
Small problem with your plan. Just winning one battle a day isn't really going to do much, nor will just attacking their districts. You're thinking way to small, even if your end game is for mass district attacks by the community at large.
What you need to start thinking about is guerrilla warfare. This is a bit tricky to do IRL, but even harder in a game. The whole point of guerrilla warfare when facing an occupation force is hitting their weakest point... money. You have to make it costly, demoralizing, and stressful. These 3 factors are like nickles and dimes and you need a lot of them to be worth something.
In a game environment that makes it tricky. As is, most of these guys are getting a weekly salary from owning all these districts and could careless about isk because of that. So take that away. Kill them in pubs, jihad lav their tanks and ram their dropships. Start checking the player lists before the match. If you're on the same team, set them up to fail. For the most part they can handle a lot, but when they have to face 16 redberries vs their squad... maybe they can take 'em, maybe they can't. Give them no support at all. Don't troll them, that's bad, but nothing says we can't walk away from a fight that they're in or give them any support.
Now, while this is all going on in pubs, you're attacking their districts. Best option is mass attacks if you can. You don't even have to win, just kill their clones. It will waste their isk and impede their PC isk flow, which then impedes their salary.
This will not be an overnight thing, it will not be a week long thing, and it will most likely not be a month long thing. It will take time, these guys have stock piles of isk, but it is possible.
Basically, from what I gather, these guys are doing this under the banner of forcing CCP to open up more districts... really all they are, are terrorist to the Dust community and CCP.
terrorism - violent acts that are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal. (granted its video game violence, but their fear is saying "hey, we broke your game because no one but us will have a district in this game.. and there's only one thing you can do about it.)
Sadly the strongest of our community are acting like terrorist, but "Quantity has a quality all its own."
(gold star if know who said that quote. Even if is was a vile man, he had a point there.) |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
229
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Posted - 2014.04.07 12:06:00 -
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I didn't really know what was going on when I got pulled into a pc with u guys the otherday but It is as I suspected... love it.
This is why I play dust, if anyone needs an anarchic repper/hmg'er I'll chip in for a clone pack and should be able to bring at least a squad most nites eitherside of downtime and all weekend.
Let's make em work for it
Less QQ more PewPew
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1359
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:18:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums.
Those 16 players would win a few matches. Write some stuff on the forums. Get under one Corp name and will get a lot of others to join them... Sooner or later they'll sell out and enjoy the ISK... Not that, anything's wrong with it... But Its just business as usual |
m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
454
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:39:00 -
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Is this another attempt at an lolcoalition against the big blue doughnut? If you hadn't noticed they always fail. I don't see why individual corps or alliances don't deicide to stand up to them. It always comes to people trying to make coalitions to take them down. Utterly unorganized, poorly funded and low morale after losing a few battles.
I support your lolcoalition just for the simple fact that this game is beyond boring without PC. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1629
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:41:00 -
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80% of the community are asshats.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
1548
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:41:00 -
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In a roundabout way, that's basically what I said, only with a little more flair, but preach on my fellow Amarrican!! Your logic will soon reach these newberries, and usher in a new generation of hopefully not crybabies.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1629
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Posted - 2014.04.07 13:48:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Is this another attempt at an lolcoalition against the big blue doughnut? If you hadn't noticed they always fail. I don't see why individual corps or alliances don't deicide to stand up to them. It always comes to people trying to make coalitions to take them down. Utterly unorganized, poorly funded and low morale after losing a few battles.
I support your lolcoalition just for the simple fact that this game is beyond boring without PC.
What the...
How many coalitions have you seen against how many Blue Donuts?
Last I checked in Dust's short history, we've only had 3 Blue Donuts. The first one, Cronos, was taken out successfully by EoN and ROFL. The second one, EoN, was dealt with by using the coalition method but that mostly failed except for AE's efforts in helping them leave the game(along with the release of new games like the FF MMO). The third Blue Donut, the current one, hasn't been dealt with yet, only resisted against.
What are you on about of coalitions always failing? Were you even there when it happened? You know why it failed miserably? Not because it could never do it but because the leaders behind it didn't go to the lengths to try to win. Initially it was all about trying to win but then it was switched to a community event, my guess because none of them wanted to put in the work to actually win. And then there was the lack of organization and low morale and people jumping out of it because they understand how BS it was.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1219
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:08:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Full-Stacked Proto Stomping is Annoying, but you want to deal with it using full stacked squads? If you are asking people to get involved in PC again count me in (8-10 PM GMT+00) If you are asking people to squad together for pubs, ill squad with who I want, the fact I go lone ranger doesn't discredit concerns over stacked squads being set against noobs. No Offence Intended
It is definitely a call to arms for PC. No grand scheme, just 16guys kickin ass.
Crush them
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1219
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:15:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:I didn't really know what was going on when I got pulled into a pc with u guys the otherday but It is as I suspected... love it.
This is why I play dust, if anyone needs an anarchic repper/hmg'er I'll chip in for a clone pack and should be able to bring at least a squad most nites eitherside of downtime and all weekend.
Let's make em work for it
Hey thanks for showing up. There was some miscommunication about deployment. We didn't know if it was the 4or 5 point map until the battle. We had contingencies for each but our ground crew must have missed the memo. Still it was a blast. Can't wait to try again.
Crush them
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
396
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:44:00 -
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you actually need more of a roster than just 16, very rare that all 16 can log in at same time
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1220
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:44:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Is this another attempt at an lolcoalition against the big blue doughnut? If you hadn't noticed they always fail. I don't see why individual corps or alliances don't deicide to stand up to them. It always comes to people trying to make coalitions to take them down. Utterly unorganized, poorly funded and low morale after losing a few battles.
I support your lolcoalition just for the simple fact that this game is beyond boring without PC.
A team is not a coalition. Nobody has to leave their corp. I am just asking the community to put up or shut up. I understand alot of you won't or can't fight. There are other ways to help. Corps can produce and fund their champions. EvE players can stage assaults on the Capsuleers over head. Even donating the profit of a pub match in a free suit would accomplish more than giving up. Just speaking to your corps and alliances to see if any are interested will be appreciated.
Crush them
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
506
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:41:00 -
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I didn't see this until today. Hit me up if you need any form of Logi.
YouTube
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4973
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:47:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums.
Im a thinker.
Im An Amarr Loyalist .
And im an ABOVE AVEREGE player.
I do NOT have the power nor the skill to deal with this monster Corps.
With great power comes great responsibility.
With no power, comes no responsibility ;)
Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:06:00 -
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Yes. It is. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
885
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:08:00 -
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I like and support the idea but I am also very lazy. Though actually being in a squad would feel like having super powers after running solo for so long.
1.8 because nothing says fun like getting shotgunned in the back.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Dengar Skirata
The Third Day
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
98
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:21:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Do I have to call you out by name? I always see lists and lists of the best of. I scoff most times because I've faced better players that never get named because they aren't popular. Warriors that don't give ashit about e-peen. They have the skills and gear that tell their own tale. All I want is 16players with the balls to stand up for themselves and the weak. Actually fuckthe weak. I want to see 16 players that can't be bought or coerced. I understand New Eden is a place where honor and Courage are constantly belittled. I get it greed trumps values. It is why I never truly fit in. I don't believe in that. I know there are at least 16 guys out there that feel the same.
Am I wrong? Are tears the only production going on in dust?
Dude. 
You're my new favorite player. 
// Author of the Dust Spec Ops Tactics Handbook
// Templis Dragonaur
// Caldari Loyalist
// MAG Veteran (RAVEN)
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1238
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:49:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums. Im a thinker.
Im An Amarr Loyalist .
And im an ABOVE AVEREGE player.
I do NOT have the power nor the skill to deal with this monster Corps.
With great power comes great responsibility. With no power, comes no responsibility ;)
Do you need a nanohive. All I need is another Gun on the line.
Crush them
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1238
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:35:00 -
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Congratulations DNS you have crushed most opposition. There are less than 16 people with spines left in New Eden. The community deserves to be bullied. I encourage you to step it up a notch. If you apply enough pressure with your boot even strangled cries are muted.
Crush them
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MythTanker
GunFall Mobilization
4
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Posted - 2014.04.08 21:56:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums.
FINALLY someone with some common sense
Heavies are OP? Say that to the buisness end of my HMG you peasent.
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MythTanker
GunFall Mobilization
4
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:01:00 -
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just for that,i will ringer for you for 2mill instead of 4mill (20 mill sp gal/min heavy)
Heavies are OP? Say that to the buisness end of my HMG you peasent.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
81
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:07:00 -
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Im not the right man to fight this battle but i will fight
You have my sword
No proto in public matches!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
81
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:18:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Im not the right man to fight this battle but i will fight
You have my sword
Edit: if you make a alliance, offer it to my corp; if you make a corp, msg me ill join; tell me to turn away while on there side, whatt you saying im already a human shield absorbing bullets for the reds
No proto in public matches!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1244
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:19:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:just for that,i will ringer for you for 2mill instead of 4mill (20 mill sp gal/min heavy)
I am not looking for ringers. You could probably sell yourself to DNS.
Crush them
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Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
71
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Posted - 2014.04.09 00:52:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:MythTanker wrote:just for that,i will ringer for you for 2mill instead of 4mill (20 mill sp gal/min heavy) I am not looking for ringers. You could probably sell yourself to DNS.
I can vouch that that man is loyal to Gunfall through and through |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
751
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:05:00 -
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I'm in. I'm far from a standout player, but i'll fight, and I can work with a team. Proto Amarr Logi, mostly proto goodies. Lots of 5 cores, middle of the road DS and ADS capability, around 8 months of fighting under my belt.
Just let me know where i'm needed.
Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood.
Futurama
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General John Ripper
19470
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:09:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:I have heard about mass attacks and suicide protests. Logically the only way to beat the elite of this game is squad on squad. Man to man. Crying and whining to each other and CCP will solve nothing.
It is a reasonable assumption that not everyone likes kissing asses. In my opinion 16 members of the community could achieve what a mass attack could not. If we could field 16 players that can win against the big guys the community could stop crying about them. You don't have to win tons of battles just one a day.
Is there 16 who could do this? I believe so. I have fought most of you and I see as much talent scattered in the small corps as I have seen in those that have gathered under one banner.
You have the power, yet lack the will. You have the money, yet lack the cause. 36million and an hour a day. Don't fucken tell me this community can't muster that. You spend more time and lose more isk crying in the forums. FINALLY someone with some common sense
geddout with that logic. Blueberries might actually stop being blueberries if they thought as you did.
My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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