DUST Search - The only cloak Change nessesary

Ghosts Chance wrote:

Tek Hound wrote:

Ghosts Chance wrote:

Tek Hound wrote:

Ghosts Chance wrote:

introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting.

this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face.

its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill.

if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much.

1.cloak
2.get into shotgun range
3.decloak wait for noob to notice you
4.get killed
5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead Shocked

You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness
L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned

LOL

im a minja hacker scout.

and did you just admit you cant engage a target without having a 3 second delay where you can shoot while cloaked?

Lol
Stupid comeback
Who cares what you are ?never ask or persumed
And what's the ttk on a scout?
How about you decloak on a group of enemies wait 3 sec and tell how it went? Or how about you decloak wait 3 sec on someone hacking a terminal.better yet decloak wait 3 secs to get rid of enemy equipment. How about decloak wait 3seconds to to shoot an uplink? Its really sad ccp needs to nerd something because of but hurts.. Did you just admit you cant you have no situational awareness or did you admit to QQ about being shot in shotgun range by a shotgun Big smile

your a terribad scout...

i trained for more then a month with a minnie scout in preperation for my hacking bonus being moved... i did just fine without the cloak so ill do just fine with a 3 second delay.

your using a crutch, and it WILL be fixed. in no way are you supposed to be putting shots out while still under the effects of a cloak. then your going to QQ harder then anyone else that your class is useless all because YOU dont have the situational awareness to avoid being shot in that 3 second window.

Pages: [1] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1787	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:49:00 - [1] - Quote introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much.
Patrick57 6697	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:55:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed. My personal best ADS match
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 2966	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:28:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah, you should be defenseless when cloaked. I'd also like to see more drain on the cloak meter when decloaking. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1789	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, you should be defenseless when cloaked. I'd also like to see more drain on the cloak meter when decloaking. the idea of a delay added to when you can recloak after decloaking has been thrown around alot as an idea as well.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 2966	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:33:00 - [5] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, you should be defenseless when cloaked. I'd also like to see more drain on the cloak meter when decloaking. the idea of a delay added to when you can recloak after decloaking has been thrown around alot as an idea as well. I think decloaking should be quicker then cloaking, then not being able to fire when cloaked would not be to bad. Hell, maybe the problem is that cloaks don't need to be manually deactivated, but I have no idea how CCP would work around that. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 268	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:38:00 - [6] - Quote Yes, I agree. The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! 1.8 is fun. Cant wait for the new build!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1790	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:42:00 - [7] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, you should be defenseless when cloaked. I'd also like to see more drain on the cloak meter when decloaking. the idea of a delay added to when you can recloak after decloaking has been thrown around alot as an idea as well. I think decloaking should be quicker then cloaking, then not being able to fire when cloaked would not be to bad. Hell, maybe the problem is that cloaks don't need to be manually deactivated, but I have no idea how CCP would work around that. it woudl probably be easyer to prevent switching to a weapon or equipment while under the effects of the cloak, then introducing a sort of decloak animation where you are stuck with the cloak equipment active in your hands while your chatacter decloaks before you can swap to a weapon. you also cant spirnt and decloak at the same time with this method if current mechanics are any indication. so it brings alot of balance to the field without nerfing it intot he ground. easyer then trying to find a way to prevent you from shooting while your holding a weapon anyways.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6399	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:46:00 - [8] - Quote I would also make it to where a Flux Grenade drains the Cloak FIeld's capacitor. It doesn't have to deplete it necessarily, but the Flux Grenade is an EMP. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1790	Posted - 2014.04.05 18:47:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: I would also make it to where a Flux Grenade drains the Cloak FIeld's capacitor. It doesn't have to deplete it necessarily, but the Flux Grenade is an EMP. its probably not nessesary...
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 389	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:00:00 - [10] - Quote Yea...I wonder why they didn't do this in the first place. "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."

Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4637	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:12:00 - [11] - Quote That's the #1 change needed. I made a thread on the #2 change, that also gives tiers a meaning https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2026234#post2026234 Yes, I will be that guy that advertises his thread in other people's threads. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 533	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:15:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. Cloaking needs a penalty just like shields and armor have and this should be increasing your suit profile rather than decreasing it. This would also work out well for making a reason to use the prototype module: std +25% suit profile adv +20% suit profile proto +15% suit profile I do agree on the decloak-firing delay though. "We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
Grave Oblivion 3dge of D4rkness 20	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:21:00 - [13] - Quote cloak is now useless no need to further Nerf it. I got killed every time when it was on at long range- close range because it is super easy to see when still or running. if anything as a cloak user it needs better stealth, more invisibility. im about to skill in to heavy because scout is still dead now that almost everyone can see you when cloaked and has gotten used to it.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1798	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:23:00 - [14] - Quote Grave Oblivion wrote: cloak is now useless no need to further Nerf it. I got killed every time when it was on at long range- close range because it is super easy to see when still or running. if anything as a cloak user it need better stealth im about to skill in to heavy because scout is still dead now that almost everyone can see you when cloaked and has gotten used to it. that just means your terribad. when you a scout everyones a T-Rex.... if you dont move they cant see you so start acting like your the ghosts in super mario brothers.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 318	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:25:00 - [15] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. +1 Agree.
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 232	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:37:00 - [16] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. 1.cloak 2.get into shotgun range 3.decloak wait for noob to notice you 4.get killed 5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned
Grave Oblivion 3dge of D4rkness 20	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:43:00 - [17] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Grave Oblivion wrote: cloak is now useless no need to further Nerf it. I got killed every time when it was on at long range- close range because it is super easy to see when still or running. if anything as a cloak user it need better stealth im about to skill in to heavy because scout is still dead now that almost everyone can see you when cloaked and has gotten used to it. that just means your terribad. when you a scout everyones a T-Rex.... if you dont move they cant see you so start acting like your the ghosts in super mario brothers. tell that to every heavy that saw and killed me while i was trying to keep a point on my last 5 games. i was changing positions stoped moving before they got into radar range and they still saw and kill me.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1801	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:01:00 - [18] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. 1.cloak 2.get into shotgun range 3.decloak wait for noob to notice you 4.get killed 5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned LOL im a minja hacker scout. and did you just admit you cant engage a target without having a 3 second delay where you can shoot while cloaked?
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 232	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:35:00 - [19] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. 1.cloak 2.get into shotgun range 3.decloak wait for noob to notice you 4.get killed 5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned LOL im a minja hacker scout. and did you just admit you cant engage a target without having a 3 second delay where you can shoot while cloaked? Lol Stupid comeback Who cares what you are ?never ask or persumed And what's the ttk on a scout? How about you decloak on a group of enemies wait 3 sec and tell how it went? Or how about you decloak wait 3 sec on someone hacking a terminal.better yet decloak wait 3 secs to get rid of enemy equipment. How about decloak wait 3seconds to to shoot an uplink? Its really sad ccp needs to nerd something because of but hurts.. Did you just admit you cant you have no situational awareness or did you admit to QQ about being shot in shotgun range by a shotgun
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1802	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:41:00 - [20] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. 1.cloak 2.get into shotgun range 3.decloak wait for noob to notice you 4.get killed 5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned LOL im a minja hacker scout. and did you just admit you cant engage a target without having a 3 second delay where you can shoot while cloaked? Lol Stupid comeback Who cares what you are ?never ask or persumed And what's the ttk on a scout? How about you decloak on a group of enemies wait 3 sec and tell how it went? Or how about you decloak wait 3 sec on someone hacking a terminal.better yet decloak wait 3 secs to get rid of enemy equipment. How about decloak wait 3seconds to to shoot an uplink? Its really sad ccp needs to nerd something because of but hurts.. Did you just admit you cant you have no situational awareness or did you admit to QQ about being shot in shotgun range by a shotgun your a terribad scout... i trained for more then a month with a minnie scout in preperation for my hacking bonus being moved... i did just fine without the cloak so ill do just fine with a 3 second delay. your using a crutch, and it WILL be fixed. in no way are you supposed to be putting shots out while still under the effects of a cloak. then your going to QQ harder then anyone else that your class is useless all because YOU dont have the situational awareness to avoid being shot in that 3 second window.

VonSpliff TeamPlayers 136	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:49:00 - [21] - Quote Don't care about th delay. The whole cloak is messed up. The duration is to long, no hit detection is bunk and being able to turn it right back on is OP. I feel you should be able to get the first shot. You just shouldn't have 3 mins to find it. And most people miss that first one cause no one should be standing still, ever! "It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 232	Posted - 2014.04.05 21:16:00 - [22] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Tek Hound wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: introduce a delay between decloaking and shooting. this prevents the 3 shotgun shells in the back before you actually decloak fiasco that we currently face. its really the only nessesary change and everything else is overkill. if you wonder why CCP tends to nerf things into the ground its because they listen to the players a little too much. 1.cloak 2.get into shotgun range 3.decloak wait for noob to notice you 4.get killed 5. Now you can shoot but wait your dead You scrubs just want a free kill for your lack of awareness L2p and stop QQ every time you get owned LOL im a minja hacker scout. and did you just admit you cant engage a target without having a 3 second delay where you can shoot while cloaked? Lol Stupid comeback Who cares what you are ?never ask or persumed And what's the ttk on a scout? How about you decloak on a group of enemies wait 3 sec and tell how it went? Or how about you decloak wait 3 sec on someone hacking a terminal.better yet decloak wait 3 secs to get rid of enemy equipment. How about decloak wait 3seconds to to shoot an uplink? Its really sad ccp needs to nerd something because of but hurts.. Did you just admit you cant you have no situational awareness or did you admit to QQ about being shot in shotgun range by a shotgun your a terribad scout... i trained for more then a month with a minnie scout in preperation for my hacking bonus being moved... i did just fine without the cloak so ill do just fine with a 3 second delay. your using a crutch, and it WILL be fixed. in no way are you supposed to be putting shots out while still under the effects of a cloak. then your going to QQ harder then anyone else that your class is useless all because YOU dont have the situational awareness to avoid being shot in that 3 second window. Lol You mad Yea I'm a terribad scout who can spot a cloak a mile away and avoid the shot if the player gets close.Guess that makes you a scrub ad Scrub scout has no situational awareness better yet you don't even have a understand standing of time in a FPS.EVERY SEC counts noob Couldn't stand the questions?that what I thought You only get one shot from cloak and that's more lag.shooting someone in the back is still shooting them in the back.what you want time to turn around? If you don't want to use cloak that's you business but don't QQ because you got owned. Your crutch is a ccp nerd because it's the only way you QQers can compete
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1804	Posted - 2014.04.05 21:24:00 - [23] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Lol You mad Yea I'm a terribad scout who can spot a cloak a mile away and avoid the shot if the player gets close.Guess that makes you a scrub ad Scrub scout has no situational awareness better yet you don't even have a understand standing of time in a FPS.EVERY SEC counts noob Couldn't stand the questions?that what I thought You only get one shot from cloak and that's more lag.shooting someone in the back is still shooting them in the back.what you want time to turn around? If you don't want to use cloak that's you business but don't QQ because you got owned. Your crutch is a ccp nerd because it's the only way you QQers can compete lol bad scout insists everyone should have situational awareness... bad scout doesnt have the situational awareness to be able to survive a momentary delay between decloaking and shooting... none of your questions were valid as the answer to all of them is SITUATIONAL AWARENESS :p dont decloak in a group of enamies... decloak in anticipation of a hack you are a scout after all and should see them coming, time your decloak to kill off equipment without exposing yoruself. shooting while cloaked is a glitch, its not the intended design of the cloak. its not a nerf, its a fix to prevent abuse of the glitch. if you cant survive 1-3 seconds without a cloak... then your the problem as im not even cloaked half the time. this is a simple fix to a glitch, if you HAVE to abuse a glitch to survive then your really really really bad.


Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page