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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:14:00 -
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I depend on the cloak. Why? Because I'm a Minmatar Scout. My bonuses are extremely specific and don't provide me the general advantages that can give me a greater edge compared to the other scouts. My suit has the lowest base HP and is ever so "slightly" faster to the point where it doesn't matter. I kind of hoped that the bonuses could have focused more on the speed/infiltration (hacking speed is fine) aspect of the minmatar scout, because honestly it's hard mode many of the games. My shields and cloak are the only buffers I have to near death. It's no wonder why you don't see many Minmatar scouts compared to Gal/Cal/Amarr scouts.
Currently the cloak is not OP. There is only one issue with it and that's the decloaking aspect which is a bug and should be fixed. Other than that people mainly complain about cloaks because they're so dependent on their radar from pre-1.8 scanners, that they can't even look at what's even in front of them and then they get popped by a shotgun. Cloaks are in fact not hard to see at all, but obviously if you're not even looking at the screen, you won't see the blue shimmer moving around getting closer and closer to you.
If cloaks get nerfed because of all the half-ass complaints, I'm skilling Gallente.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
5501
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:16:00 -
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Minmatar Bonus is lol worthy. Seems CCP drunk too much of the CoD kool-aid when thinking up that Bonus.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
209
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Minmatar Bonus is lol worthy. Seems CCP drunk too much of the CoD kool-aid when thinking up that Bonus.
Lol ikr? I mean don't get me wrong, NK are good and all but they don't help **** if you're dead.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:23:00 -
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the minmatar bonus is CLUTCH.
i was a minmatar logi before 1.8 for that hacking bonus and i went to the minmatar scout to keep it.
the knives are just a good way to get rid of logis and heavys who have waddled too far away from the group.
in comp games my my kills come from knives and remtoe explosives :P but most my WPs come from hacks. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
771
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:49:00 -
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ADV Min Scout - Fully Skilled
EXO-5 Mass Driver - Fully Skilled
Ishokune Nova Knives - Fully Skilled
Advanced Cloak
Remote Explosives
All passive skills available - Fully Skilled
=
Epic fit of epic preportions.
You can thank me later :)
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
450
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Minmatar Bonus is lol worthy. Seems CCP drunk too much of the CoD kool-aid when thinking up that Bonus.
It's basically a free ticket to level 8 proficiency with nova knives and a nice hack bonus. I can enter contested areas cloaked and back objectives before the enemy has a chance to react. It can actually be a pretty good choice |
Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4430
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:35:00 -
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Minmatar Scout bonus lolworthy?
Amarr Scout...
Slower
Bonus equivalent of a militia grade module
meh EWAR attributes
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Denesian Morenti
The Neutral Zone
18
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:41:00 -
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I see nothing wrong with the cloaks and I use mostly heavy suits (commando and sentinel), so I am the guy getting shot in the back of the head by shotguns. The problem I have is 700 EHP some are running around with. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
921
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:43:00 -
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The hacking bonus only works if you haven't just spawned 
I hope they fix that soon.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
452
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:04:00 -
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Denesian Morenti wrote:I see nothing wrong with the cloaks and I use mostly heavy suits (commando and sentinel), so I am the guy getting shot in the back of the head by shotguns. The problem I have is 700 EHP some are running around with. sentinels don't a get equipment slots, but I've seen plenty of commandos running them |
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
354
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:21:00 -
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minmatar scout with cloak...
CPU 480.4 / 480.375 gF
PG 76 / 81.375 kW
Shield 125 [197.6] HP
Armor 87.5 HP
No icon eHP 212.5 [285.1] HP
Shield Recharge Rate 40 HP/s
Shield Recharge Delay 4 s
Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 5 [5.35] s
Armor Repair Rate 0 HP/s
Movement Speed 5.65 m/s
Strafe Speed 5.09 m/s
Sprint Speed 8.31 [9.35] m/s
Stamina 236.25
Stamina Recovery Rate 63 /s
Scan Profile 31.5 [18.49] dB
Scan Precision 36 [23.79] dB
Scan Radius 30 m
Melee Damage 110 HP
Hack Speed Factor 1.72
2 complex precision, 2 complex damps, 1 complex shield extender, 1 complex kincat.
creodron SG, ishukone NK's, core locus grenades
f/45 remote explosives, ishukone cloak
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7819
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:24:00 -
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I managed to cross train back to at least Minmatar scout dropsuit level 2 after fully speccing into the Amarr scout not too long ago. I can say that Minmatar scout can do well without the cloak so long as you know what you're doing and focus on its strong points while avoiding situations that emphasize its weakness. The only issue I have with the Minmatar scout at this point is the gimped PG.
The Amarr scout however seems more dependent on the cloak since it's the only non-ewar scout in the game and it's slower. The Minmatar scout can even compete with or marginalize the Amarr scout in terms of stamina recovery and that's just on the standard suit alone. On the plus side, the Amarr scout does benefit with having better fitting options than the Minmatar scout.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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