Wrong abouta HAV. The player who has a mil rail tank with dmg mods wins. There is just no way to maneuver fast enough around them or avoid them unless the oerson is a bad shot. He who blindsides wins.

I am not quite sure what you guys are going on about? Did you actually read my post? I donGÇÖt think I said what you think I said.

Of course a double Damage Mod Rail Tank can kill just about any other setup... if the person operating that tank can find the enemy tank, remember to turn the damage mods on, and land the three shots required to kill the enemy tank.

But an Infantry player running a tank for the first time will not know the map the way they thought they did. Everything is on a different scale. What qualifies as cover for a tank is a lot different than what Infantry looks for as cover. Tanks move faster than infantry. The main travel routs and the shortcuts are different. They will be slowly turning the turret to look around rather than turning the whole tank, because using the right joy stick to look around is what they are used to. Their situational awareness will completely suck.

Basically what would happen is the Infantry player in a Tank for the first time would see the enemy tank (if he gets lucky), and activate his damage modes (if he remembers). Then on the first shot the perspective would switch because he is pressing a little too hard on R3. This will throw him off, and in the half second it takes him to recover from the confusion the enemy tank will have run behind cover. The Infantry player in the tank will advance hopping to get the kill before the Damage Mods run out. The Experienced tanker will circle around behind him and take him out with 3 shots to the engine block.

Or more likely the new tanker in the double damage mod tank will die multiple times without ever seeing the tank that killed him.

Experienced Tanker > New Tanker no matter what the fit. (Unless he gets lucky.)

MLT rail tank with damage mods > all.

Didn't used to be the case. My old tank build had no problems against those sissies militia glass cannons. With the hardener nerf, I can't even beat them in a fair 1v1 (where we both shoot and hit at the same time); I gotta get the first shot...
CCP nerfs hardeners but keeps damage mods that were built around beating hardeners the same.

Yeah, I have to disagree with you on that one; you might be using the wrong fittings, Fox.

Stock Sica + 2x damage mods + whatever you can fit in the lows = ultimate tank destroyer, especially for shields.

Wait until he comes around a corner and gank him.


I can't think of a fitting that would survive two damage mods on an MLT rail at point blank range anymore.

The trick with tanking with a cheapie is that you have to be a lot more cunning.

I also don't feel that swarms need a damage buff anymore, especially since they break my regen even when hardened. A range buff I could see my way to supporting, but not a damage buff.

A nerf to armour repairers would be in order, however.

Regarding your very last statement, here's the correction: damage mod rail tank > any tanker.

Wrong abouta HAV. The player who has a mil rail tank with dmg mods wins. There is just no way to maneuver fast enough around them or avoid them unless the oerson is a bad shot. He who blindsides wins.

I think what really pisses me off about this post is that he says I am Wrong and then his counter argument completely agrees with everything I said.

My point was that a player who is new to tanks will almost never get an opportunity to blind side anyone, unless they are very lucky. I was talking about real battlefield conditions, not two people dueling in an open field and waiting for the pretty girl to drop the handkerchief before they start firing. I never said anything about tank v tank balance except that Damage Mods are too strong after the Hardener nerf, but everyone seems to agree with me on that.

This thread got completely derailed on quibbling over something I did not say in the first place.