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knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 970	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:53:00 - [1] - Quote force the ******* uncloak animation CCp and Boom thats one problem fixed (make sure the animation last through the whole uncloak procees by the way) Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1057	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:55:00 - [2] - Quote I would pay ISK to see the expressions when I decloak and they see a scout with a Mass Driver. But yeah, a lot less 'scouts' would be seen. Proficiency X in Rage, No-Scopes, and Mass Driver Direct Hits Nova Knife Operation lvl 4 Amateur Proficiency X
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 971	Posted - 2014.04.02 04:16:00 - [3] - Quote ^ Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
Alena Ventrallis PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 1094	Posted - 2014.04.02 04:44:00 - [4] - Quote Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 377	Posted - 2014.04.02 06:57:00 - [5] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. Just like the TF2 spy. Makes decloaking more challenging and prevents shooting while cloaked. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5709	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:07:00 - [6] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. This is an idea that a few scouts have been tossing around lately, personally I think this is a very good coarse of action. Another idea is to have a firing delay depending on the weapon class, sidearm>light in thought, so SMGs for exsample would be able to shoot after cloaking faster than a rifle, but both would have the delay. (Perhaps between 2-4 seconds) Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Alena Ventrallis PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 1100	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:31:00 - [7] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. This is an idea that a few scouts have been tossing around lately, personally I think this is a very good coarse of action. Another idea is to have a firing delay depending on the weapon class, sidearm>light in thought, so SMGs for exsample would be able to shoot after cloaking faster than a rifle, but both would have the delay. (Perhaps between 2-4 seconds) I like your idea better than a flat timer. Perhaps each weapon could have a delay based on the damage it can cause. SMGs/nova knives have the lowest, shotguns high alpha has the highest. That would make balance way easier, and make running lighter weapons more desirable. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2655	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:37:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. This is an idea that a few scouts have been tossing around lately, personally I think this is a very good coarse of action. Another idea is to have a firing delay depending on the weapon class, sidearm>light in thought, so SMGs for exsample would be able to shoot after cloaking faster than a rifle, but both would have the delay. (Perhaps between 2-4 seconds) Yup, we've been saying this since cloak dropped. But 4 seconds would be massively too long. 1 second seems to be about the delay if you manually decloak now and that would be just fine. Gives time for the sound to actually happen (if the audio gets fixed because it's been awfully buggy lately) and then no one can complain about getting insta-killed by cloaked shotty nonsense. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 869	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:40:00 - [9] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. This could work but the animation needs to go way faster, remember we can't carry a gun while we are cloaked and we are not even invisible. The folks complaining are mostly those that are too lazy to pay attention to their surroundings. So being visible without the ability to shoot is a drawback that would make the cloak close to useless. In the current state the cloak does not protect very well when crossing open spaces. I have been sniped quite a lot while cloaked and I do not even sprint. So honestly those who have a problem with the cloak are just lazy and unaware...
V1RONXSS AL0NE Inc. 9	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:44:00 - [10] - Quote So what the point of cloaking device if u have to wait while decloaking? Sadly you CCP nerf all things only becose there few teenys qq on the forums...

Yan Darn Science For Death 477	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:49:00 - [11] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: force the ******* uncloak animation CCp and Boom thats one problem fixed (make sure the animation last through the whole uncloak procees by the way) Should I be upset that not only have I been posting the exact same thing in every other 'nerf scout' thread I see - but also, I kinda 'stole' this idea from someone. Whatever - good idea is good idea. By the time the animation has ended you are decloaked, certainly by the time you have a weapon ready in your hand. I think it's better than a timer because a timer would make the controls feel clunky and unresponsive (and really, DUST has a serious problem with this already). The Ghost of Bravo
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 972	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:30:00 - [12] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. thats basicelly the same thing im saying same thing i said but i forgot to mention that. force the uncloak animation but you still have to finsish until you are able to fire Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2352	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:52:00 - [13] - Quote V1RONXSS wrote: So what the point of cloaking device if u have to wait while decloaking? Sadly you CCP nerf all things only becose there few teenys qq on the forums... The point of the cloaking device is to SNEAK. Also as I have explained to many many people before you, this current mechanic is unintentional. CCP orginally designed cloaks so you could fire weapons while under the effect, but taking that shot would drain your cloaks energy. A single Shotgun or Sniper round would be enough to completly use all the energy, then add an additional recharge penalty for using it all up. So in effect you could shoot someone while cloaked but would then be unable to cloak again for 30 secs, often sealing your doom. However the community expressed there disapproval of the idea very early on, so CCP changed so you were forced to decloak before committing offensive actions. However they also decided to take out the code for penalties (as it wouldn't be needed). So if the current state of cloaks was intentional then CCP would have left in the penalty. This is why people want it fixed, its unintended and down right annoying. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Marc Rime 356	Posted - 2014.04.02 20:00:00 - [14] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. You mean so the cloaker, if spotted, has absolutely no chance of fighting back before getting killed? Not having your weapon out when someone opens fire already puts you at a fair disadvantage.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 909	Posted - 2014.04.02 20:03:00 - [15] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: force the ******* uncloak animation CCp and Boom thats one problem fixed (make sure the animation last through the whole uncloak procees so you cant fire until its done) So basically the same things the community has been discussing for days now? Good idea. Looking for the scout hangout?
Reallusion GrimSleeper Need Permission to Die LLC 34	Posted - 2014.04.02 20:04:00 - [16] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Or how about you can't fire until the decloak animation is done. Or make it return damage (damage to the shooter) based on how much longer the cloak has to decloak. cloak has 100% time left to decloak, you receive 100% damage, foe receives 0%. cloak has 37% time left to decloak, you receive 37% damage, foe receives 63%. Join the revolution... change the future.


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