Almost every game I play ends up becoming who can red line who first with tanks, and heavies in lavs. I can barely dent armor I end up dead. Team mates are rarely helpful besides being half second distractions.

Hardeners have already taken a huge nerf. If you are having trouble with HAV even now..... well you need to refine your tactics.

Try to flank and hit HAV from the back, we have weak points that do extra damage to us. Shoot from heavy cover, not kills unless you have superior elevation or we will gut you, and try to focus fire with other AVers. DO NOT FIRE solo and expect a competent Tanker to go down.

We won't, we will fall back, reassess and then return to target you.

Get a solid Forgegun..... or a Proto Missile Launcher. Initial Missile salvo's will be ineffective vs armour HAV due to our 1200 shields. Pre-empt our Hardener usage and don't bother firing unless you have high tier AV or multiple AVers, work with other tanks.

If a single HAV redlines an entire team....they unfortunately deserve it.

The way in which I run my HAV tends to see us redline the enemy, but not because I get many, or even any kills. My gunners often more kills than me, but I'll claim anywhere between 2-6 tanks a match.

Whaddaya mean 'we'?

True likes to think it's his tanking that redlines the enemy; it's actually the fact that he runs in half-decent squadsz

You'd probably get redlined by those without the tanks, OP - it's just more blatant with tanks.


PROTIP though - double damage modded Sica with whatever armour buffer (not hardeners) you can fit in your lows. Works nice.