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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:42:00 -
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Do we have enough content for new starter fits now? I wouldn't see a problem with a militia assault SCR or CR if full auto is wanted for new player suits.
Also not just basic medium frames but basic light and heavy frame starter.
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
71
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:10:00 -
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already a bump wth
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
455
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:55:00 -
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yeah I think starter fits should have their respective racial weapons |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:15:00 -
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Here is what I think the starter fits should have for each respective race. Unfortunately I can't include heavies since they don't have all racial heavy weapons out yet. The same can be said for snipers since there is only racial sniper rifle available at the moment.
Amarr Frontline: Amarr Medium Frame with Laser Rifle and Scrambler Pistol Medic: Amarr Medium Frame with Scambler Rifle and Scrambler Pistol with Nanite Injector and Rep Tool Infiltrator: Amarr Light Frame with two Scrambler Pistols or maybe one laser rifle and a scrambler pistol
Caldari Frontline: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and MAGSEC Medic: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and a Bolt Pistol Infiltrator: Caldari Light Frame with MAGSEC and Bolt Pistol
Gallente Frontline: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Medic: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Infiltrator: Gallente Light Frame with Shotgun (or Plasma Cannon) and Ion Pistol
Minmatar Frontline: Minmatar Medium Frame with Combat Rifle and SMG Medic: Minmatar Medium Frame with Mass Driver and SMG Infiltrator: Minmatar Light Frame with SMG (or nova knives) with Flay Lock Pistol
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2014.04.01 21:48:00 -
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NPE needs a way to get a taste at all main roles in the game. But buy giving out new starter fits all players will be able to use them.
The walkthrough in NPE should encourage them to try the militia stuff in the militia market and propose different roles. |
Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.01 21:59:00 -
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Well I think everyone should have them, a bpo all militia equipped basic frame of each size. They have no role specific bonus'.
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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TheNorthernHOUND
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.04.02 00:31:00 -
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Emperor1349 wrote:Do we have enough content for new starter fits now? I wouldn't see a problem with a militia assault SCR or CR if full auto is wanted for new player suits.
Also not just basic medium frames but basic light and heavy frame starter. Well maybe light and heavy frame once we get gal and amarr SMG and the other 3 hmgs. But i'd like to see every player have for their chosen race a medium with racial rifle and pistol, a light frame with racial SMGs, and a basic heavy frame with racial weapons. this sounds great but for light frames al racial shot guns
To arms and to death my brothers
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1635
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:08:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121174&find=unread
Leaving this here.
Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:13:00 -
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bumped it, I've requested it also post 1.7
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
10
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Here is what I think the starter fits should have for each respective race. Unfortunately I can't include heavies since they don't have all racial heavy weapons out yet. The same can be said for snipers since there is only racial sniper rifle available at the moment.
Amarr Frontline: Amarr Medium Frame with Laser Rifle and Scrambler Pistol Medic: Amarr Medium Frame with Scambler Rifle and Scrambler Pistol with Nanite Injector and Rep Tool Infiltrator: Amarr Light Frame with two Scrambler Pistols or maybe one laser rifle and a scrambler pistol
Caldari Frontline: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and MAGSEC Medic: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and a Bolt Pistol Infiltrator: Caldari Light Frame with MAGSEC and Bolt Pistol
Gallente Frontline: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Medic: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Infiltrator: Gallente Light Frame with Shotgun (or Plasma Cannon) and Ion Pistol
Minmatar Frontline: Minmatar Medium Frame with Combat Rifle and SMG Medic: Minmatar Medium Frame with Mass Driver and SMG Infiltrator: Minmatar Light Frame with SMG (or nova knives) with Flay Lock Pistol
Good idea, however the Amarr Frontline wouldn't benefit from the Laser Rifle as Frontline needs to be in the middle of the fight and the Laser Rifle is a long range weapon. Scrambler Rifle would be more beneficial.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
75
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:16:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Here is what I think the starter fits should have for each respective race. Unfortunately I can't include heavies since they don't have all racial heavy weapons out yet. The same can be said for snipers since there is only racial sniper rifle available at the moment.
Amarr Frontline: Amarr Medium Frame with Laser Rifle and Scrambler Pistol Medic: Amarr Medium Frame with Scambler Rifle and Scrambler Pistol with Nanite Injector and Rep Tool Infiltrator: Amarr Light Frame with two Scrambler Pistols or maybe one laser rifle and a scrambler pistol
Caldari Frontline: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and MAGSEC Medic: Caldari Medium Frame with Rail Rifle and a Bolt Pistol Infiltrator: Caldari Light Frame with MAGSEC and Bolt Pistol
Gallente Frontline: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Medic: Gallente Medium Frame with Assault Rifle and Ion Pistol Infiltrator: Gallente Light Frame with Shotgun (or Plasma Cannon) and Ion Pistol
Minmatar Frontline: Minmatar Medium Frame with Combat Rifle and SMG Medic: Minmatar Medium Frame with Mass Driver and SMG Infiltrator: Minmatar Light Frame with SMG (or nova knives) with Flay Lock Pistol Good idea, however the Amarr Frontline wouldn't benefit from the Laser Rifle as Frontline needs to be in the middle of the fight and the Laser Rifle is a long range weapon. Scrambler Rifle would be more beneficial.
Militia assault scrambler :)
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2142
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:54:00 -
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CCP also needs to work on the butchered hack job of the amarr medium suits.
Zero low slots on an armor tanking suit is just terrible.
Gal-mando. Because the best sidearm is a shotgun.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
77
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:09:00 -
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Ouch that's ********, mine only has 2 high 0 low but amarr are THE armor tanking suit wtf man
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
911
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:21:00 -
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What NPE needs is a decent tutorial system that teaches newberries the basics of fittings, hacking, roles/classes, skillpoints and so forth
If God had wanted you to live, he would not have created me!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
1834
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:13:00 -
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The starter fits could definitely use some love with all the new toys out and about. Racial starter fits are now a possibility.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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LittleCuteBunny
388
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:29:00 -
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NO
I believe that "Starter Fits" should be removed from the game. It was not long ago when CCP removed the BPOs from Dust, because they deter they are market breakers by allowing players to play without loosing ISK.
Recruiter Link
Retired.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
78
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:47:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:NO
I believe that "Starter Fits" should be removed from the game. It was not long ago when CCP removed the BPOs from Dust, because they deter they are market breakers by allowing players to play without loosing ISK.
They allow new players to play without loosing isk, also if a merc ever hit rock bottom they would still need something. As far as I'm concerned BPOs are still very common, even being traded already. Would it be fair for old players to have bpo of weapons, different frames, vehicles and militia modules and new players have not even a basic racial medium frame?
Also your sig says Retired so gtfo you don't even play this game
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
52
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:51:00 -
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I would have to say no to the assault scr and cr as starter fit items. Those are advanced weapons that should take some sp to get into. If new players got to use full auto before the standard scr and cr, even a weaker version, they would never play the standard trigger tapping version. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
691
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:26:00 -
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Militia starter fits should include all the content of the game at militia level and academy should be changed for a longer set of time (with a complete overhaul tutorial). Once you graduate academy, all starter suits should be removed from your person. Yes it helps us save money but honestly, its the best way to level out this economy. I say that as an isk wh0re myself.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:49:00 -
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Mercs need an option that's not beg if they were to hit rock bottom. I will never be there I stay positive 95% of the time but that's what these starter suits are for, a start from nothing. About bpos you can't pick and choose they exist now they should exist for everyone, if they are to be removed then rip off the bandaid and let's continue, starter suits should always be available though.
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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