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Bethhy wrote:

It's the way CCP has built Hit detection in DUST 514. It is extremely noticeable when running a mouse and keyboard without emulator.

You know when you put your crosshair's over a target and they turn red? That is the only time CCP's servers and your Playstation thinks that bullets will register... There is no dynamic hit detection in DUST 514. It wasn't like this in Chromosome..

This is the change they made on Uprising launch when CCP Wolfman overhauled the Aim system in DUST 514 upon Uprising launch.

So there is one sweet spot for every gun where the crosshairs will turn red and allow bullets to start registering... And those "red" crosshairs will lag when the game is under heavy load... Allowing those moments where someone has no health and 3 people shoot over 200 bullets at them and none register...

When CCP introduced Aim Assist.. It allowed the "Redding" of crosshairs to become a near "Locking" feature for hit detection... Allowing all bullets after the Aim assist "Locks" to register...

When CCP did the so called Hit Detection fixes... All they did was widen the area that DS3 users get red crosshairs... Allowing more bullets to register with near perfect accuracy not achieveable with some of the strongest Aim assists in FPS titles out there....

In almost EVERY FPS game i have played... Your crosshairs are your aim... You learn where your bullets go in them and fire...

In DUST those crosshairs are useless... they merely tell you when you have "Red'ed" AKA "LOCK" the target and are now good to fire.

It's the most stupid, lazy, Sorry excuse for hit detection system I have ever seen.

And it is why HIT detection has been eternally fuked Since Wolfman did this in Uprising launch... It's right now a laughing stock in the FPS world...

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Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4325	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:27:00 - [1] - Quote This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1216	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:31:00 - [2] - Quote Ion Pistol: "Wait, you want to kill that guy? Why? What did he ever do to you?" Me in my ADS: 1,2
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2348	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:31:00 - [3] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. Wow you make the gun seem so OP it might need a nerf +1 For the Federation!
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 331	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:32:00 - [4] - Quote Oh, Dust.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5399	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:32:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. Damn. I use it a lot as of late because of the charge-up capabilities doing so much alpha damage, at first I thought this was going to be about the hip-fire dispersion (which is pretty... crazy...) but this is pretty valid proof that it's got some hit detection issues. Nice job man, keep up the good work. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2348	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:33:00 - [6] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Ion Pistol: "Wait, you want to kill that guy? Why? What did he ever do to you?" You say "just shoot damn it!" Ion pistol says "Carebearmodeactivate!" For the Federation!
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4329	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:33:00 - [7] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. Wow you make the gun seem so OP it might need a nerf +1 It's OP as hell. Those shots actually killed his soul instead of his body. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1117	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:34:00 - [8] - Quote Well, it would appear that many things rail based (rail gun turrets, forge guns and ion pistols) have similar are we going to actually fire a round this time or not method of activation. Meaning random. And so it goes.
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation 507	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:37:00 - [9] - Quote It is clearly OP! NERF IT!
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2422	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:38:00 - [10] - Quote ive had that problem for weeks, even in 1.7. Glad to see someone has caught it on camera. Did you submit a ticket? They need to see that.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2348	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:40:00 - [11] - Quote What's sad is that hit detection is tied to the weapon I don't even think we have real hitscan weapons. For the Federation!
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 731	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:41:00 - [12] - Quote Looks like whoever started shooting you at the end experienced the same thing. You got a red hit indicator, but lost no shields for the first second or two. Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4330	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:42:00 - [13] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: ive had that problem for weeks, even in 1.7. Glad to see someone has caught it on camera. Did you submit a ticket? They need to see that. Yup. Sent one in. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5429	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:46:00 - [14] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. CCP Troll wrote: Working as intended *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4332	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:50:00 - [15] - Quote I'm glad I didn't spec into it past operation 1. That's all i've gotta say. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation 507	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:51:00 - [16] - Quote Cirius what about NK? Sometime it looks Like their hit detection suck...
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4332	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:56:00 - [17] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: Cirius what about NK? Sometime it looks Like their hit detection suck... Their hit detection is pretty sketchy as well. Not as bad as it used to be though. Before you'd only get like... 1 out of 10 knifes. Now it's more like 7 out of 10. I've just kind of adapted to them not doing proper damage. I switch to my gun after a slash most of the time expecting it not to do damage. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1598	Posted - 2014.04.01 03:56:00 - [18] - Quote Bethhy wrote: It's the way CCP has built Hit detection in DUST 514. It is extremely noticeable when running a mouse and keyboard without emulator. You know when you put your crosshair's over a target and they turn red? That is the only time CCP's servers and your Playstation thinks that bullets will register... There is no dynamic hit detection in DUST 514. It wasn't like this in Chromosome.. This is the change they made on Uprising launch when CCP Wolfman overhauled the Aim system in DUST 514 upon Uprising launch. So there is one sweet spot for every gun where the crosshairs will turn red and allow bullets to start registering... And those "red" crosshairs will lag when the game is under heavy load... Allowing those moments where someone has no health and 3 people shoot over 200 bullets at them and none register... When CCP introduced Aim Assist.. It allowed the "Redding" of crosshairs to become a near "Locking" feature for hit detection... Allowing all bullets after the Aim assist "Locks" to register... When CCP did the so called Hit Detection fixes... All they did was widen the area that DS3 users get red crosshairs... Allowing more bullets to register with near perfect accuracy not achieveable with some of the strongest Aim assists in FPS titles out there.... In almost EVERY FPS game i have played... Your crosshairs are your aim... You learn where your bullets go in them and fire... In DUST those crosshairs are useless... they merely tell you when you have "Red'ed" AKA "LOCK" the target and are now good to fire. It's the most stupid, lazy, Sorry excuse for hit detection system I have ever seen. And it is why HIT detection has been eternally fuked Since Wolfman did this in Uprising launch... It's right now a laughing stock in the FPS world...
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1556	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:04:00 - [19] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. Wow you make the gun seem so OP it might need a nerf +1 It's OP as hell. Those shots actually killed his soul instead of his body. Clearly. He wandered around like an aimless soul while getting shot at. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 663	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:21:00 - [20] - Quote Hey Moody. I know it was you who sabotaged my Youtube subscriptions. One day, everything's all dandy, I've got my normal subscription feed and a variety of media to consume. Then the next day, I'm inexplicably unsubscribed from all ~20 of my subscriptions EXCEPT YOURS. You know how I know this was all your doing? I sent you that message in-game about it and you never replied. I know you read it. Who doesn't read their mail? Clearly you're dodging the issue because you somehow sabotaged my Youtube subscriptions so I'd only ever watch your videos until the end of time because you accurately figured that I'm too lazy to re-subscribe to all the other channels I was subscribed to. You monster. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7950	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:34:00 - [21] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Bethhy wrote: It's the way CCP has built Hit detection in DUST 514. It is extremely noticeable when running a mouse and keyboard without emulator. You know when you put your crosshair's over a target and they turn red? That is the only time CCP's servers and your Playstation thinks that bullets will register... There is no dynamic hit detection in DUST 514. It wasn't like this in Chromosome.. This is the change they made on Uprising launch when CCP Wolfman overhauled the Aim system in DUST 514 upon Uprising launch. So there is one sweet spot for every gun where the crosshairs will turn red and allow bullets to start registering... And those "red" crosshairs will lag when the game is under heavy load... Allowing those moments where someone has no health and 3 people shoot over 200 bullets at them and none register... When CCP introduced Aim Assist.. It allowed the "Redding" of crosshairs to become a near "Locking" feature for hit detection... Allowing all bullets after the Aim assist "Locks" to register... When CCP did the so called Hit Detection fixes... All they did was widen the area that DS3 users get red crosshairs... Allowing more bullets to register with near perfect accuracy not achieveable with some of the strongest Aim assists in FPS titles out there.... In almost EVERY FPS game i have played... Your crosshairs are your aim... You learn where your bullets go in them and fire... In DUST those crosshairs are useless... they merely tell you when you have "Red'ed" AKA "LOCK" the target and are now good to fire. It's the most stupid, lazy, Sorry excuse for hit detection system I have ever seen. And it is why HIT detection has been eternally fuked Since Wolfman did this in Uprising launch... It's right now a laughing stock in the FPS world... But you can shoot at targets far off in the distance outside of your effective range, where the crosshairs are not red, and you can still hit them. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4339	Posted - 2014.04.01 06:32:00 - [22] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Hey Moody. I know it was you who sabotaged my Youtube subscriptions. One day, everything's all dandy, I've got my normal subscription feed and a variety of media to consume. Then the next day, I'm inexplicably unsubscribed from all ~20 of my subscriptions EXCEPT YOURS. You know how I know this was all your doing? I sent you that message in-game about it and you never replied. I know you read it. Who doesn't read their mail? Clearly you're dodging the issue because you somehow sabotaged my Youtube subscriptions so I'd only ever watch your videos until the end of time because you accurately figured that I'm too lazy to re-subscribe to all the other channels I was subscribed to. You monster. HE'S ON TO ME Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11962	Posted - 2014.04.01 07:19:00 - [23] - Quote slow clap You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1074	Posted - 2014.04.01 07:25:00 - [24] - Quote This 'mis-firing' is happening in also the Assault forge gun and I have had cases with the shotgun yesterday (31st March) Level 1 Forum Warrior! Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2007	Posted - 2014.04.01 07:31:00 - [25] - Quote LOL Ion Pistol. LOL Assault Rifle. LOL Plasma Cannon. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1068	Posted - 2014.04.01 07:32:00 - [26] - Quote All weapons with a charge + bonuses to charge are sketchy as hell lately. I love it personally but I'll have to put some serious skill into sharpshooter before I can really make a judgement (it is after all the only pistol with that skill) Might work very well with the Gal Assault bonus "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 863	Posted - 2014.04.01 08:29:00 - [27] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: This might very well be THE BEST gun in Dust and I show you why here. I mean look at that reliable damage output. In all seriousness though, this gun has the worst hit detection I've seen in quite some time. Wait till you dance around an enemy pumping a whole SG clip right into his face without doing damage...even funnier when your opponent has the same problem
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 630	Posted - 2014.04.01 08:39:00 - [28] - Quote looks like the forge gun has a friend A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. GalHeav E-vo


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