DUST Search - TANKS ARE STILL RUINING AMBUSH !

Jadd Hatchen wrote:

rithu wrote:

I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them...

First off, players need to understand the spawning system and use it correctly however since ambush will always be filled with idiots that don't know how to use that system, then you have to counter it in a different way.

In this case, calling in your dropship was wrong and only hurt your team, because it probably prevented someone else from calling in another tank to go after the enemy tanks.

Finally, people are under-utilizing the one advantage of the commando dropsuits right now. That is versatility! When enemies start using tanks, then commandoes should shine. Basically have one assault style weapon and then put an anti-tank weapon like a plasma cannon or swarm launcher in the other weapon slot. Now you can kill both infantry and vehicles. If everyone did this, then tanks would die a whole lot faster.

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rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 9	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11930	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:58:00 - [2] - Quote The spawn system is ruining Ambush* You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Void Echo Total Extinction 2351	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:58:00 - [3] - Quote Theres something called AV in the skill books and market, skill up and use them. stop complaining about someone using their preferred class type to kill you. Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1308	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:58:00 - [4] - Quote This is a symptom of AV still being heavily underpowered... The 2-tank-per-ambush change was okay, but we need AV that isn't reminiscent of pissing into the wind. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 983	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:59:00 - [5] - Quote Spawn AV then. There is only two of them. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 364	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:00:00 - [6] - Quote leave tanks alone and stop crying. tanks have been nerfed enough. you had one bad game big freakin deal get over man. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR Fatal Absolution 1965	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:00:00 - [7] - Quote hmm, i don't think it's so much the tanks now as it is the broken spawn mechanics (lolsmartdeploy). you don't need to spawn miles away from them, but this spawning right in front of them isn't cutting it either. maybe something in between would be ideal. Anime > EVERYTHING
SALH Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:06:00 - [8] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: hmm, i don't think it's so much the tanks now as it is the broken spawn mechanics (lolsmartdeploy). you don't need to spawn miles away from them, but this spawning right in front of them isn't cutting it either. maybe something in between would be ideal. Fixing the smart deploy.
Aderek HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 72	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:31:00 - [9] - Quote SALH wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: hmm, i don't think it's so much the tanks now as it is the broken spawn mechanics (lolsmartdeploy). you don't need to spawn miles away from them, but this spawning right in front of them isn't cutting it either. maybe something in between would be ideal. Fixing the smart deploy. Smart deploy is ok! You must be smart and trow UpLinks in good place :) I was see many many times: blue bery spawn and in this time trow uplink (dont look for good place, trow any where).
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7743	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:38:00 - [10] - Quote Tanks are not ruining ambush. Not anymore at least. Its that ridiculous spawn system. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 557	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:51:00 - [11] - Quote bamboo x (Wyrkomi Breach Forge Gun) tank bamboo x (Ishukone Assault Forge Gun) tank /thread B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 366	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:05:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Tanks are not ruining ambush. Not anymore at least. Its that ridiculous spawn system. i wish they would add a new ambush and let us play the old classic TDM style everyone QQ'ed about where it was chaos with random spawning and none of this algorithm BS. you didn't have to hunt 4 minutes out of a 5 minute match for someone to fight. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 737	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:07:00 - [13] - Quote they should give both teams a base to spawn in at..
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 436	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:12:00 - [14] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: they should give both teams a base to spawn in at.. Then it really wouldn't be an ambush by definition. It would then be a skirmish, or even a raid. Rail rifle + Bolt Pistol= death at >50meters. Under 50, I die. You can edit my posts, but you can't edit my sig
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1074	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:13:00 - [15] - Quote Should be 0 tanks in Ambush, 2 in both Dom & Skirmish. to add AV doesnt work great right now esp with assault forge guns not firing any rounds, and mis-firing. Level 1 Forum Warrior! Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 385	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:14:00 - [16] - Quote It is partly the spawn system but to me it is more that people have an idea of how Ambush should be played and refuse to deviate from that. The solution to the problem was uplinks but if you wait to long then your opportunity is lost, if you don't put some distance between your links, your opportunity is list, if you don't protect your uplinks, well, then you get "smart deployed". So the problem to me is that people want to be able to rush at each other going pew pew rather than playing strategically, then expect smart deploy to fix it. Because, that's why.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 157	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:16:00 - [17] - Quote rithu wrote: I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... HAV's arent ruining ambush. the 'smart spawn' is in this case. Every suit Gk.0 <3 Gallente Federation Patriot
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 119	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:18:00 - [18] - Quote I think the in flux of new players with 1.8 seems to be what is ruining most matches, at least for me. Sucks to be the worse of two bad teams. Just had a match earlier where we had 8 redline snipers on dom, while I was alone on the objective fighting a swarm of militia suits. Eventually I just gave up and sat in our redline. I haven't seen match ups like this even when I was in the battle academy. Can't tell if people have just given up on the game or if we do in fact have a ton of new players because since 1.8 hit every other match has been me trying to climb to the top of two awful teams.
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 295	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:19:00 - [19] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Tanks are not ruining ambush. Not anymore at least. Its that ridiculous spawn system. i wish they would add a new ambush and let us play the old classic TDM style everyone QQ'ed about where it was chaos with random spawning and none of this algorithm BS. you didn't have to hunt 4 minutes out of a 5 minute match for someone to fight. +1 for the old ambush spawn system! I loved the random spawn mechanic. When the time comes......
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 414	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:20:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The spawn system is ruining Ambush* Indeed. Tanks were never the problem really. The idiotic spawn system was. With a better system, tanks wouldn't have been able to just drive off to the next spawnpoint and gun down infantry as soon as they spawn.

Jadd Hatchen The Phoenix Federation 422	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:47:00 - [21] - Quote rithu wrote: I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... First off, players need to understand the spawning system and use it correctly however since ambush will always be filled with idiots that don't know how to use that system, then you have to counter it in a different way. In this case, calling in your dropship was wrong and only hurt your team, because it probably prevented someone else from calling in another tank to go after the enemy tanks. Finally, people are under-utilizing the one advantage of the commando dropsuits right now. That is versatility! When enemies start using tanks, then commandoes should shine. Basically have one assault style weapon and then put an anti-tank weapon like a plasma cannon or swarm launcher in the other weapon slot. Now you can kill both infantry and vehicles. If everyone did this, then tanks would die a whole lot faster.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9115	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:48:00 - [22] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: rithu wrote: I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... First off, players need to understand the spawning system and use it correctly however since ambush will always be filled with idiots that don't know how to use that system, then you have to counter it in a different way. In this case, calling in your dropship was wrong and only hurt your team, because it probably prevented someone else from calling in another tank to go after the enemy tanks. Finally, people are under-utilizing the one advantage of the commando dropsuits right now. That is versatility! When enemies start using tanks, then commandoes should shine. Basically have one assault style weapon and then put an anti-tank weapon like a plasma cannon or swarm launcher in the other weapon slot. Now you can kill both infantry and vehicles. If everyone did this, then tanks would die a whole lot faster. You are fitting swarms to commando's? Only Min and Gal benefit from AV weapons. An no....only idiots in tanks would die faster. A properly skilled and experienced tanker will always continue to make a mockery of you. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 119	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:49:00 - [23] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: rithu wrote: I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... First off, players need to understand the spawning system and use it correctly however since ambush will always be filled with idiots that don't know how to use that system, then you have to counter it in a different way. In this case, calling in your dropship was wrong and only hurt your team, because it probably prevented someone else from calling in another tank to go after the enemy tanks. Finally, people are under-utilizing the one advantage of the commando dropsuits right now. That is versatility! When enemies start using tanks, then commandoes should shine. Basically have one assault style weapon and then put an anti-tank weapon like a plasma cannon or swarm launcher in the other weapon slot. Now you can kill both infantry and vehicles. If everyone did this, then tanks would die a whole lot faster. >Anti-tank weapon like the potato cannon or the tickle launcher Iseewhatudidthere.jpg No but seriously, >Anti-tank weapon >Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher LOLOLOLOLOLOL The correct Answer was forge gun, which is currently glitchy and doesn't fit commandos anyways. Enjoy your magsec vs. light infantry weapons.
ghtyui fdaqq Kinsho Swords Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:49:00 - [24] - Quote rithu wrote: I played a match today (on manus peak) . There were two tanks on the opp team. And we were being spawned right in front of the enemies , I tried to call in dropships to escape on the roof but never got a chance to set foot on the ground. CCP please make it that we are spawned far from the enemies. And tanks you say what to do with them... I personally think it is much better in 1.8, but there will always be bad games
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 96	Posted - 2014.03.31 20:52:00 - [25] - Quote OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO GUYS TWO TANKS RRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!! oh wuh wait hold on only two hey guys lets f*ck these tanks up this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 14	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:07:00 - [26] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Theres something called AV in the skill books and market, skill up and use them. stop complaining about someone using their preferred class type to kill you. if you don't like ambush, don't play it. ambush is the most broken pub mode for this game, i have not idea why it still exists. If it was just tanks we could have taken AV weapons but we spawned right in the middle of enemies,broken FG & useless swarms cant help. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 14	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:09:00 - [27] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Spawn AV then. There is only two of them. Yes only two of them, the rest of them are infantries, There is now was they r letting us to even lock or charge our AV weapons. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 14	Posted - 2014.04.01 04:14:00 - [28] - Quote neausea 1987 wrote: OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO GUYS TWO TANKS RRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!! oh wuh wait hold on only two hey guys lets f*ck these tanks up YEAAAAH !!! LETTTS TICKLE THOSE TANKS WHILE THE INFANTRIES CLONE US OUT !!! IT WILL BEEE FUUNNN !!! You cant see me caldari scouts ;)


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