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C Saunders
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:58:00 -
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Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it!
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1617
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:00:00 -
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Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout.
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
878
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:01:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout.
Respect
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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C Saunders
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:02:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout.
10/3
THIS IS CLEARLY OP!
NOT EVEN TANKERS CAN GET THAT!?!!!!
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1617
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:04:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout. Respect
every kill brought a new tear of laughter to my eye and a little more joy to my black heart. its an awsome troll fit but dont expect to ve competative it take lots of patience hanging round objectices waiting on birthday boys 
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
923
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:12:00 -
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KDR is a terrible way to look at balance. Scanners were overpowered and I don't think I ever saw them on the kill feed but I drink a lot of bleach so I might have missed it. Redline Rail Gun 'tanks' didn't kill all that many people, not compared to a good heavy or blaster tank, and yet the railgun nerf was specifically because of them.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4587
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:13:00 -
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Plasma cannons are actually good scout weapons.
Give them a burst AR and a flaylock.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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Adell Shinzumakami
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:34:00 -
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I went 17/4 Cloaked Scout.... Swarm Launcher...
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet - CLOAKING
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Zimander
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:37:00 -
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Clock are not OP i get kill many time being clock and beside u can find a clock if u pain attention |
shadow drake35
the third day
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
105
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:39:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout. 10/3 THIS IS CLEARLY OP! NOT EVEN TANKERS CAN GET THAT!?!!!!
not even nyain su gets that dude so op
MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2325
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:46:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:KDR is a terrible way to look at balance. Scanners were overpowered and I don't think I ever saw them on the kill feed but I drink a lot of bleach so I might have missed it. Redline Rail Gun 'tanks' didn't kill all that many people, not compared to a good heavy or blaster tank, and yet the railgun nerf was specifically because of them.
Pretty much just because it doesn't kill 100's doesn't meam its not overpowered. The cloak contributes to the power of scouts over other suits. You can reach Assault Suit levels of tank, and still fit a decent weapons, while still moving faster, being undetectable by passives and generally having no drawbacks.
If you want to say that cloaks by themselves aren't OP then the best way to test it would be to put it on another suit. Like my MIN-ADV-AS-BSG fit.
I get 380 EHP a Breach Shotgun and an SMG.
On this suit, it is still incredibly effective, but usually not game breakingly. HOWEVER the cloak does need some "adjustment", they hotfixed out the bugs today, but they still need to do something about quick-swapping while cloaked to get a short time where you are still cloaked with your weapon firing.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:47:00 -
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I smell CPF 5000 (crutch protection factor). It's officially summer!
If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking.
I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
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HYENAKILLER X
WILL FIGHT ANYONE
690
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:47:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it!
Had 3 games where cloaked scouts were above 35 kills. 1 guy got 42. Please do not defend cloaks. I havent seen tanks get 42 kills.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.31 17:49:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it!
Foolishness. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
620
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:06:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:C Saunders wrote:Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it! Had 3 games where cloaked scouts were above 35 kills. 1 guy got 42. Please do not defend cloaks. I havent seen tanks get 42 kills.
Then you havnt played much.
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
359
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:33:00 -
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If you watch for the cloak, it is easy to see. I have killed a lot of 'invisible' scouts....easily, with a blaster tank.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
568
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:38:00 -
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Holy ****, why did I not realize this. The cloak totally makes the PLC viable.
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
1751
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:39:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:If you watch for the cloak, it is easy to see. I have killed a lot of 'invisible' scouts....easily, with a blaster tank.
How far inside the NULL facility were you and your tank at the time?
If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking.
I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
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HYENAKILLER X
WILL FIGHT ANYONE
692
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Posted - 2014.04.01 02:03:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:C Saunders wrote:Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it! Had 3 games where cloaked scouts were above 35 kills. 1 guy got 42. Please do not defend cloaks. I havent seen tanks get 42 kills. Then you havnt played much.
yea bro.......im hardly ever on.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.01 02:08:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout.
I can go 10/3 with a Placon, even without a cloak.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:21:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout. 10/3 THIS IS CLEARLY OP! NOT EVEN TANKERS CAN GET THAT!?!!!!
Bullshit! You have **** tankers than cause when I run tanker my high death average is 15k/2d (and those are normally cause the tank is no longer needed)
No proto in public matches!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1601
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:31:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:KDR is a terrible way to look at balance. Scanners were overpowered and I don't think I ever saw them on the kill feed but I drink a lot of bleach so I might have missed it. Redline Rail Gun 'tanks' didn't kill all that many people, not compared to a good heavy or blaster tank, and yet the railgun nerf was specifically because of them.
Orbitals will beg to differ..... Never have i seen so many orbitals score no kills. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:57:00 -
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My best with plasma cannons and cloaks was 15/2. Unfortunately I wasn't a scout, but an adv gallente commando with the power of double tap so that result shouldn't count toward your research op.
I flick boogers at/in soups-pizzas-hair-nostrils-freshlygroomeddogs-coffee-books-ignitionkeylocks. Thank you for reading
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4755
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:16:00 -
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Seen another uncloaked Scout I know run 22/5, and I've run 25/3 at my best without cloak on a Shotgun Scout.
Haven't seen many cloaked Scouts performing on that level, let alone beating it, regardless of weapons.
Am I the best Scout ever? No. Am I good? Apparently. Are cloaks broken? NOPE. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
199
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:40:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Seen another uncloaked Scout I know run 22/5, and I've run 25/3 at my best without cloak on a Shotgun Scout.
Haven't seen many cloaked Scouts performing on that level, let alone beating it, regardless of weapons.
Am I the best Scout ever? No. Am I good? Apparently. Are cloaks broken? NOPE.
Most decent to good scouts are doing that, I'm doing that more often that not (not the open desert map, too many tanks). I run solo, no teammates, no scanners, on an advanced suits with an adv tier weapon.
The better scouts i know are doing much better than i am, they can put up far better numbers on their Proto stacked builds/squads. The argument isn't that cloaks make great players better, its that cloaks reward poor gameplay by lowering the likelihood it will be punished. It also provides offensive advantages which are not due to good gameplay, which again means thst is is overpowered. Low risk, high reward, no drawback.
Scouts got a nice boost (equipment, more modules, more suits for flexibility and more roles) the cloak was not needed to give easy mode to scouts. Scouts who use skill, tactics, movement, angles, and make good decisions can put up scores without a cloak. When a scout makes good plays he can sneak up on a player and kill him without being seen, so a cloak is not required.. It's like everyone thinks scouts were never good before 1.8 - which is entirely untrue. It's just cloaks allow bad players to play well and good players to be even better and it's not due to sudden increases in skill its due to only the cloak and the advantages it provides with no drawbacks. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:54:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:The argument isn't that cloaks make great players better, its that cloaks reward poor gameplay by lowering the likelihood it will be punished. It also provides offensive advantages which are not due to good gameplay, which again means thst is is overpowered. Low risk, high reward, no drawback.
This argument you keep making keeps getting shot down.
It never actually succeeds, and you stop posting in threads where people post logical counter-arguments instead of trying to defend your point. Why? Because you can't.
The cloak does NOT reward the poor gameplay by the user, it lets them punish poor gameplay by their victims. If a player with a cloak is bad, YOU WILL SEE THEM AND THEY WILL DIE. If they aren't, then YOU WOULD HAVE DIED WITHOUT THE CLOAK. |
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:54:00 -
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I can go 23/0 with an ADS.
I also go 35/0 with NON-Cloaked scouts(g-1, MD, m209 Asmg)
I went 56/2 with a officer SMG and a flaylock(20 kills were flays)
Are any of those OP now? Stop balancing on what people 'can' do with an item.
I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank.
Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:37:00 -
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I seem to have an amarr scent (must be that amarrian cologne) that attracts enemies once they saw me, shame that my RE are near there feet when I detonated them...
Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!!
AMARRIAN4LYFE!
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
474
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Posted - 2014.04.01 07:37:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:C Saunders wrote:Get a minmatar scout and a cloak. Dont put any health modules on it and give it a plasma cannon and only a plasma cannon.
If the cloaks overpowered then you must surely be able to get a huge amount of kills using anything with it! Had 3 games where cloaked scouts were above 35 kills. 1 guy got 42. Please do not defend cloaks. I havent seen tanks get 42 kills.
I'd have to question your experience with both tanks and some amazing scouts PRE 1.7.
The Ghost of Bravo
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
862
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Posted - 2014.04.01 08:12:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lol i went 10/3 with my Caldari scout armed with a cloak and plc. Also I only runadv scanning mods(precision enhancers range amplifiers and profile damps) on my Caldari scout.
Yesterday a Heavy went 21/1 Do I think heavies are OP? No not really there are issues with them but that's it... |
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