DUST Search - Are devs testing the game before updating it?

Michael Arck wrote:

Sequal Rise wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

Sequal Rise wrote:

I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous!

Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts.

When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4?

Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying.

Where did you see me crying? It's making me laugh!
I don't say that other games are all perfect. I've been playing many many MMO's, and many FPS as well and yes there were bugs. But fix went way faster, bugs were really minor, and when big ones came out they were the first priority aim.
We waited 1 year before we got the taxi killer nerfed. It was a major priority. I've been playing for a year so don't tell me I'm a cod player on smt this way. I know how ccp works now...

Stop lying. You and many others played COD for years with its horrible hit detection and didn't say one word.

And if you knew how CCP works, really, you wouldn't be surprise how things are going now would you?

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Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:21:00 - [1] - Quote This is a real question. It's the first MMO I play where absolutely every single updates increase the number of bugs and imbalanced stuffs. So CCP, are you even trying your game before reameasing and update? How couldn't you see that 60% of the time you spawn without your passive bonuses? How couldn't you see that you still can shoot for a while when you're cloaked? How couldn't you even check the slot of every suits? x) You had 4 months!
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3852	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:27:00 - [2] - Quote Yea because every game that has ever been made never had bugs. No game has ever been released that you had to download a patch to correct bugs. They have a team but still all bugs cannot be foreseen by a small group of guys versus the entire player mass with different variables that come across these bugs. The same truth can be applied to new consoles. People bought PS4 without most of the things promised even included in the system. Updates had to be downloaded. Hell, the X1 had to get a D1 download on your day of purchase. It's really not that serious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:30:00 - [3] - Quote I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous!
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2239	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:30:00 - [4] - Quote No they are not. I mean yes they test it, but untill the week before anything could change. Most devs were surprized to see the remote mines become sticky for example. No mmo delievers content as fast as dust has been. I work in the game industry and I'm glad I don't have to delievery huge updates every month for pretty much a year. I'm honestly impressed considering the massive ram limitations they hit ut seem to have overcome. It's obvious they had to lower some of the textures but I'm glad they were able to deliver <3 I'm not sure where dust is going but I'm not sure how CCP is going to fit everything they want on a single map on 512mb of ram :/ They have said this is the reason behind the removal of skirmish 1.0 aside of the balance issues. Same with those cool Single small turrets we could jump into. They are still shown in the tool tips help screen when a game is loading, but they've been removed due to memory limitations. There is still an installation market section teasing us that one day we will get to call in turrets...
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 948	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:33:00 - [5] - Quote We are the testers. What's the point of this thread? Don't be stupid - I can obviously see you.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:37:00 - [6] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: We are the testers. What's the point of this thread? Is it a joke? Let's realease a game without trying if it works so the players will create thousands threads that we won't have the time to read and we will create a thousands lines "Known issues" thtead :)
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3852	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:38:00 - [7] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous! Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts. When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4? Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:50:00 - [8] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous! Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts. When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4? Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying. Where did you see me crying? It's making me laugh! I don't say that other games are all perfect. I've been playing many many MMO's, and many FPS as well and yes there were bugs. But fix went way faster, bugs were really minor, and when big ones came out they were the first priority aim. We waited 1 year before we got the taxi killer nerfed. It was a major priority. I've been playing for a year so don't tell me I'm a cod player on smt this way. I know how ccp works now...
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2862	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:52:00 - [9] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: We are the testers. What's the point of this thread? Is it a joke? Its really not a joke. CCP does the same thing with EVE Online apart from they have a GÇ£Test SeverGÇ¥ where all the new soon to be released content is tested out by players in there so they can be properly balanced when released into the full game. Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:54:00 - [10] - Quote So why not doing the same for Dust 514? THAT would be great!

AFK Godfather Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2014.03.31 08:59:00 - [11] - Quote arguing with dust fanboys lol goodluck
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4717	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:00:00 - [12] - Quote it doesn't matter what the devs have said. Just like EVE spent a few years post-release being called an "endless beta", DUST is still in beta. We're still WAY short of the core content that needs to be available before the game is release-ready.
Night Ward 123	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:03:00 - [13] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: So why not doing the same for Dust 514? THAT would be great! . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-GÇÿGÇ¥. . . . . . . . . .``~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-GÇ¥. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .GÇ£-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GÇ¥:, . . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\, . . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,} . . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.} . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:GÇ¥. . . ./ . . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./ . . . . . . . /__.(. . .GÇ£~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./ . . . . . . /(_. . GÇ¥~,_. . . ..GÇ£~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/ . . . .. .{.._$;_. . .GÇ¥=,_. . . .GÇ£-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~GÇ¥; /. .. .} . . .. . .((. . .~_. . . .GÇ¥=-._. . .GÇ£;,,./`. . /GÇ¥ . . . ./. .. ../ . . . .. . .\`~,. . ..GÇ£~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../ . . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-GÇ¥ . . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\ . . . . . . \`~.-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\|,./.....\,__ ,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\|. . . . . . ..`=~-, . .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>--==`` . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _\. . . . . ._,-%. . . ..`
AFK Godfather Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:07:00 - [14] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: No they are not. I mean yes they test it, but untill the week before anything could change. Most devs were surprized to see the remote mines become sticky for example. No mmo delievers content as fast as dust has been. I work in the game industry and I'm glad I don't have to delievery huge updates every month for pretty much a year. I'm honestly impressed considering the massive ram limitations they hit ut seem to have overcome. It's obvious they had to lower some of the textures but I'm glad they were able to deliver <3 I'm not sure where dust is going but I'm not sure how CCP is going to fit everything they want on a single map on 512mb of ram :/ They have said this is the reason behind the removal of skirmish 1.0 aside of the balance issues. Same with those cool Single small turrets we could jump into. They are still shown in the tool tips help screen when a game is loading, but they've been removed due to memory limitations. There is still an installation market section teasing us that one day we will get to call in turrets... people still saying dust is an MMO? how deluded are people? Seriously... dust delivers "more content" than any other game because the game itself is lacking content. This content you speak of isn't really adding content, but more adding stuff to FINISH the game. Oh look they added new guns, yea because they already had a WIDE variety of guns to begin with. Oh hey new heavy suits, because heavies had an abundance of suits! Hey bro, they added cloaking...so innovative! Please.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 550	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:10:00 - [15] - Quote I'll tell you one thing. CCP isn't getting one more nickel from me until I know whether or not they'll **** heavies up. Edit: Sure they kind of helped AV out but I'm still not very impressed in that department either. B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 769	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:28:00 - [16] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: We are the testers. What's the point of this thread? Is it a joke? Its really not a joke. CCP does the same thing with EVE Online apart from they have a GÇ£Test SeverGÇ¥ where all the new soon to be released content is tested out by players in there so they can be properly balanced when released into the full game. I think THIS is the most important - for whatever reason - I imagine having multiple client installs on a PS3 is a difficult thing, if DUST 514 had a similar test server where various people could go and play, most of these bugs would never see the light of day or could at least get a day 1 hotfix. Of course there are a lot of variables at play but some of these bugs are so glaring it's surprising they passed QA.
Spartykins NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 55	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:32:00 - [17] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Let's realease a game without trying if it works Didn't know CCP was copying EA's business model. (Insert witty phrase here)
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 15	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:33:00 - [18] - Quote That's exactly what I'm talking about! How is it only possible? Ho and you don't need to dl another client, just choose ig you want to connect into the test server or the normal one. Sever are the same between eve and dust so why couldn't they do that?
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 397	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:40:00 - [19] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: This is a real question. It's the first MMO I play where absolutely every single updates increase the number of bugs and imbalanced stuffs. So CCP, are you even trying your game before reameasing and update? How couldn't you see that 60% of the time you spawn without your passive bonuses? How couldn't you see that you still can shoot for a while when you're cloaked? How couldn't you even check the slot of every suits? x) You had 4 months! I ask myself this question every time they release new content. Its absolutely ridiculous. I find it even more hilarious how rigorously they test the new Eve patches on test servers for weeks and months before releasing the content. Not to mention if something is still really buggy after they release it theres usually a nice hot fix the next day, maybe a few days, that smooth everything over. In Dust it seems like they don't actually test the game at all, instead they just stare at numbers generated by the game and think to themselves "well that looks right". Their development process is absolutely laughable. I would love to sit in on their development meetings and conversations to see what is actually talked about and figured out. It seems like nothing more than a few young children thinking of ideas and putting the bare minimum of effort into making them happen. CCP makes me wish I went to school for game design/development instead of settling for the awesome brewery job I have now. I'm sure they pay better, I could make mistakes ALL the time and not ever have to worry about losing my job. Oh not to mention the 800 holidays. Hey CCP, are you hiring?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3858	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:43:00 - [20] - Quote AFK Godfather wrote: arguing with dust fanboys lol goodluck I wonder why doomsayers continue to ride a ship they claim is sinking? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3858	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:45:00 - [21] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous! Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts. When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4? Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying. Where did you see me crying? It's making me laugh! I don't say that other games are all perfect. I've been playing many many MMO's, and many FPS as well and yes there were bugs. But fix went way faster, bugs were really minor, and when big ones came out they were the first priority aim. We waited 1 year before we got the taxi killer nerfed. It was a major priority. I've been playing for a year so don't tell me I'm a cod player on smt this way. I know how ccp works now... Stop lying. You and many others played COD for years with its horrible hit detection and didn't say one word. And if you knew how CCP works, really, you wouldn't be surprise how things are going now would you? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 397	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:46:00 - [22] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous! Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts. When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4? Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying. Your argument of CoD and BF is absolutely ridiculous. CoD and BF are arena shooters. All of the content is already added into the games minus new maps. I've never seen as many bugs as there are in Dust in ANY version of CoD or BF. BF4 was a bit glitchy at first but that was solved within a week and things work smooth now. Dust has been around for two years now and we still run into some glitches that were prevalent in beta. Theres no excuses. I'm not sitting here to QQ or anything, I enjoy dust despite all its imperfections. I just won't have you defending CPP with false facts. You sir are wrong.
AFK Godfather Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.03.31 09:57:00 - [23] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: AFK Godfather wrote: arguing with dust fanboys lol goodluck I wonder why doomsayers continue to ride a ship they claim is sinking? Please point out where in my post I was referring to DUST as a sinking ship. Calling a spade a spade is one thing, but blind fanboyism is another. I call it as it is, while you people sprinkle sugar over poop and call it a rose.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 15	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:20:00 - [24] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: I disagree man. You're talking about new games and new consoles. Dust is 1 year and a half old! And you still spawn without your passive! That's ridiculous! Ignorance keeps the mind locked. Use some wisdom instead of knee jerking your thoughts. When new expansions or DLC arrives, its bound to have its share of bugs. You speak as if every other game has had perfection upon release. You speak as if these things won't be corrected. You speak as if games like COD are not broken right up until this very day. Did EA foresee the problems with BF4? Once again, its not that serious. It will get fixed. Quit your crying. Where did you see me crying? It's making me laugh! I don't say that other games are all perfect. I've been playing many many MMO's, and many FPS as well and yes there were bugs. But fix went way faster, bugs were really minor, and when big ones came out they were the first priority aim. We waited 1 year before we got the taxi killer nerfed. It was a major priority. I've been playing for a year so don't tell me I'm a cod player on smt this way. I know how ccp works now... Stop lying. You and many others played COD for years with its horrible hit detection and didn't say one word. And if you knew how CCP works, really, you wouldn't be surprise how things are going now would you? No I'm not surprised, I knew this update would bring its whole amount of glitch and lag. But this one is pretty amazing that's why I posted this thread. Why do people who wants to feel superior always tell sh*t like "you noob go play Cod Bla Bla Bla". Your wisdom is not so bright finally.. I'm one of the player who's REALLY against the aim detection who absolutely ruined the game. I dont use it, and instead of nerfing weapons they should just take this stuff out. I love dust, that's why I go on its forum and post messages. I'm as much a vet as you may be in this game so calm down when you don't know what you're saying.


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