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BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 83	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:44:00 - [1] - Quote Just saying.. maybe it needs a nerf.. Being able to one shot people is kind of ******. Maybe it should take at least 2? And he said bring me your trolls... and they shall feed.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2165	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:45:00 - [2] - Quote lolwat. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara, Uprising 1.7 Long live the Commandos!
J0LLY R0G3R Dirt Nap Squad. 677	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:45:00 - [3] - Quote Om Nom Nom XD ++++Gimme Back my SG RoF++++ XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4679	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:46:00 - [4] - Quote Against most targets, it already DOES take 2. Nice thread. +1 to OP.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3817	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:50:00 - [5] - Quote Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11902	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:57:00 - [6] - Quote How many shotguns were you seeing on field before cloaks arrived? How many shotguns were you seeing on field after cloaks arrived? Do you think that's indicative of a problem with the insta-attack decloaking you can do or indicative of a problem with the shotgun? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2322	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:01:00 - [7] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: Just saying.. maybe it needs a nerf.. Being able to one shot people is kind of ******. Maybe it should take at least 2? And he said bring me your trolls... and they shall feed. My combat rifle can kill you faster than my shotgun. Just saying. For the Federation!
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 83	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:01:00 - [8] - Quote Just saying.. maybe the only weapon that should instakill is the rubber chicken..aka plasma cannon.. Also my first signature! love it! and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 83	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:03:00 - [9] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: BIind Shot wrote: Just saying.. maybe it needs a nerf.. Being able to one shot people is kind of ******. Maybe it should take at least 2? And he said bring me your trolls... and they shall feed. My combat rifle can kill you faster than my shotgun. Just saying. Even after that 15% dps reduction?? Ya.. cool story kid. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
Poultryge1st Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:04:00 - [10] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply... ED-209 is watching this thread. puts gun down and slowly walks away http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G9IscZMYYw0

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 867	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:06:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: How many shotguns were you seeing on field before cloaks arrived? How many shotguns were you seeing on field after cloaks arrived? Do you think that's indicative of a problem with the insta-attack decloaking you can do or indicative of a problem with the shotgun? This is pretty much it. A delay of 1-1.5 seconds before being able to fire would still make cloaks useful and powerful. It just means that if you are discovered in cloak you are more vulnerable than just pressing weapon switch and returning firing immediately. Because CCP has shown that they can do hotfixes to change numbers, they could easily implement it over the course of a few weeks to see how that helps. If 2 seconds delay is too high but no delay too short, let's try 1.5 this week. It is really hinky design but it could work. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2436	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:14:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: How many shotguns were you seeing on field before cloaks arrived? How many shotguns were you seeing on field after cloaks arrived? Do you think that's indicative of a problem with the insta-attack decloaking you can do or indicative of a problem with the shotgun? He does have a bit of a point. Cloak+ any other weapon isn't as much of an issue as cloaks +shotguns. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 69	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:13:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: How many shotguns were you seeing on field before cloaks arrived? How many shotguns were you seeing on field after cloaks arrived? Do you think that's indicative of a problem with the insta-attack decloaking you can do or indicative of a problem with the shotgun? It's not necessarily black and white. Sometimes certain things can cause a synergy between them. The shotgun and cloak are a perfect example of this. There is nothing inherently wrong with either the cloak or shotgun. The problem is somewhere within the synergy of the two. You could nerf one or the other and attain the desired effect. The truly good scouts have always been proficient at flanking and attacking from behind. The FOTM scouts crutch their way around you with the cloak. The end result is that more people are being hit by all the pellets fired from shotguns because more scouts are getting close to them. Increasing the delay between decloaking and firing is a step in the right direction, but there will still be a net increase in the number of scouts getting close to people and two-shotting them. As such, I respectfully submit that the shotgun needs a damage nerf, though certainly more at lower levels. Because militia-geared scouts two-shotting proto heavies is horseshit. But hey, that's just my .02 ISK.
Dingleburt Bangledack Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 96	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:23:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: How many shotguns were you seeing on field before cloaks arrived? How many shotguns were you seeing on field after cloaks arrived? Do you think that's indicative of a problem with the insta-attack decloaking you can do or indicative of a problem with the shotgun? Exactly. I said it before and I'll say it again. SGs had the exact same 1-2HK potential for a LONG time before 1.8 and no one cried about it until cloaks were introduced. Stop targeting the damn SG. It's fine.
Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6421	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:43:00 - [15] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: Being able to one shot people is kind of ******. So a Shotgun shouldn't be able to kill people in one shot?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5572	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:44:00 - [16] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: BIind Shot wrote: Being able to one shot people is kind of *****. So a Shotgun shouldn't be able to kill people in one shot? I wonder if people thing about what they're posting sometimes.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja* Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 2903	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:48:00 - [17] - Quote We have to be within 4 meters and we can only 1 shot Minmatar assaults and scouts. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 559	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:55:00 - [18] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: Just saying.. maybe it needs a nerf.. Being able to one shot people is kind of ******. Maybe it should take at least 2? And he said bring me your trolls... and they shall feed. It was NERFED rof got taken away now it's shield damage which mean my pro 5 does 607 damage to shields and btw its always two shot people Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 739	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:59:00 - [19] - Quote Ignore the idiots who think the SG is OP. ...


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