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Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3502	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:30:00 - [1] - Quote Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2318	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:37:00 - [2] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. For the Federation!
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 1001	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:39:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. Run with a squad. Problem solved. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
echo47 Minmatar Republic 259	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:40:00 - [4] - Quote So if I am dilligent and spot you, or if you are not as good as you think you are, I shouldn't have a way to disable your cloak? Sorry I get it I should just spray and hope I hit you. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 641	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:40:00 - [5] - Quote More serious question: are you using a SD television?
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 1001	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:42:00 - [6] - Quote echo47 wrote: So if I am dilligent and spot you, or if you are nto as good as you think you are, I shouldn't have a way to disable your cloak? Sorry I get it I should just spray and hope I hit you. Pop him with a scrambler pistol. POW, dead scout. No spraying, no praying, just POW +50. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
echo47 Minmatar Republic 259	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:43:00 - [7] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: echo47 wrote: So if I am dilligent and spot you, or if you are nto as good as you think you are, I shouldn't have a way to disable your cloak? Sorry I get it I should just spray and hope I hit you. Pop him with a scrambler pistol. POW, dead scout. No spraying, no praying, just POW +50. I do, but with some scouts it takes more than one shot, besides I should be able to actually aim and go for +60 just like any other dropsuit. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3797	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:43:00 - [8] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. A cloaked scout looks no different than your naked eye seeing dark matter. You can't see dark matter, but you can tell its there by the distortions of the images behind it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6398	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:46:00 - [9] - Quote echo47 wrote: Sorry I get it I should just spray and hope I hit you. Pretty much.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1964	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:46:00 - [10] - Quote http://youtu.be/t-RA17hVQLk Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

Patrick57 Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 6398	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:46:00 - [11] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. A cloaked scout looks no different than your naked eye seeing dark matter. You can't see dark matter, but you can tell its there by the distortions of the images behind it. And that's just when they're sitting still...
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 2089	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:49:00 - [12] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. A cloaked scout looks no different than your naked eye seeing dark matter. You can't see dark matter, but you can tell its there by the distortions of the images behind it. And that's just when they're sitting still... Or you can always let your AA do the work for you n.n >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 526	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:49:00 - [13] - Quote Everybody. We want cake and tea.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5405	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:50:00 - [14] - Quote My problem with the cloak is the weapon draw/ decloak time. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
mollerz 3092	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:55:00 - [15] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Well.. it's a half cloak then. Because you can definitely see them. Even far off in the hills you can see a cloaker. Once people realize this and catch on, the real problem is going to be that the cloak is too visible. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3508	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:59:00 - [16] - Quote I can literally see the cloak distortion with a SR when they're stationary and running cloaked people are SO visible "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/
mollerz 3093	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: I can literally see the cloak distortion with a SR when they're stationary and running cloaked people are SO visible Yep. Once you train your eye to see it, that's all you see. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 186	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:04:00 - [18] - Quote They should have called it camo. I was sniped well cloaked yesterday. I guess good snipers can still see me at a distance.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3508	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:05:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: I can literally see the cloak distortion with a SR when they're stationary and running cloaked people are SO visible Yep. Once you train your eye to see it, that's all you see. indeed And now scouts finally have something that make them good/competitive and people want it nerfed "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4863	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:05:00 - [20] - Quote Dude, I literally shot a cloaked guy out at 90+ yards. They aren't invisible, just slightly blue. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4109	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:06:00 - [21] - Quote If you aren't looking for them, then it's hard to find them, if you are looking for them, then they are easy to spot Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
echo47 Minmatar Republic 259	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:07:00 - [22] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: mollerz wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: I can literally see the cloak distortion with a SR when they're stationary and running cloaked people are SO visible Yep. Once you train your eye to see it, that's all you see. indeed And now scouts finally have something that make them good/competitive and people want it nerfed So you are saying scouts needed to be near invisible to be good/competitve? I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1180	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:53:00 - [23] - Quote I wish the effect of rounds hitting the cloak was more visible for me, but I don't have very good vision. I don't think fluxes taking down cloaks would be unfair. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:57:00 - [24] - Quote echo47 wrote: So if I am dilligent and spot you, or if you are not as good as you think you are, I shouldn't have a way to disable your cloak? Sorry I get it I should just spray and hope I hit you. Hitting someone was supposed to trigger the full hit effects that you'd get if you shot someone who wasn't cloaked, but it appears that's not working as intended. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:01:00 - [25] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Lol logic? Get good scrub scouts are OP because they are invinsible and can destroy you because their invisibility let them get close. CCP should make cloaks more visible for balance. Run with a squad. Problem solved. Running with a squad is easy for those of us in active corporations. Squad finder is stupid as you have no idea what kind of battle you be pulled into. The warbarge before a battle was great for squading, and recruiting purposes. Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2712	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:03:00 - [26] - Quote I don't think that anyone is complaining that the cloak actually makes you invisible lol. I have three issues with the cloak (other than being invisible is just cheesy). You should decloak when you take damage and when you switch to your weapon, you should automatically decloak without animation. You shouldn't be able to get a shot off during decloaking. Third is the cloak should act like every other module in the game. Once you decloak, you have to wait for it to fully cooldown. How it works now, you can spam being cloaked for, practically, the whole game. Since the cloak is, unfortunately, here it just needs to be balanced weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 330	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:35:00 - [27] - Quote The best way to disable a scout's cloak is to shoot them until they are dead. If you are having trouble shooting a cloaked scout, get better at it. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 355	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:41:00 - [28] - Quote Yeah it pretty easy to see cloaked scouts especially if your running proto cal scout : p "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 169	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:44:00 - [29] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Um, isn't the point of a cloak to not let you be seen? Go read some huge text block I've wrote concerning cloaks. It may take 5 minutes but honesty and reasoning might surprise you. There is no justification for an easy button. Cloaks greatly lower punishment from poor gameplay while providing an offensive advantage to those whose gameplay doesn't dictate such advantage. I understand you are a piece of **** scout and now see the cloak as a way to get good without skill. I understand you need a cloak, but scouts before excelled without one, so many you should learn how to play and not have to visit to CCP Hospital and leave with a new pair of crutches. Cloaks have no drawbacks, while offering low risk and high rewards. And again, "eyes are OP", "get good", "eve has cloaks", and "i deserve it after struggling before" are all not valid reasons, or justifications for a cloak. You're just a bunch of tank 2.0 deniers who feel like you deserve to be the 2.0 Logi slayer because you're selfish, unskilled, and short sighted.


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