DUST Search - Slowdown effect is bullshitt!!

Asha Starwind wrote:

Leonid Tybalt wrote:

Boot Booter wrote:

Leonid Tybalt wrote:

VALCORE72 wrote:

yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......??????

Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much ting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable.

Ok. 1) this isn't real life where you are protected by minimal body armor and skin. 2) WTF is a shield for?? Why does shooting my shield slow me down?

Next time you think about posting... don't.

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2) Study some ******* physics. The amounts of power needed to feasibly create a projected forcefield that completely eliminates any noticeable effect of getting hit by a firearm would be ridiculous. And we know for a fact that the shields in Dust aren't enough for that job (if they were, it would've been impossible to penetrate them and do damage to armor). From this we can logically deduce that the shields merely work by despersing kinetic and thermal energy and spreading it out over a larger area to make it less harmful (much like kevlar does, but as a projected forcefield surrounding the user rather than being worn as a garment).

That doesn't mean it would stop you from feeling the hits and be affected by them. It only means that the hits won't kill you immediately.

So the next time you think about giving me sass, boy. Remember that I am much, MUCH smarter than you...

No, you're pretty dumb.

Shields in this game are depicted as a perfect defense otherwise the damage would bleed through to the armor underneath(why Kevlar is layered and usu. used in conjunction with steel or ceramic plates). If I had to pin a reason as to why they deplete is would be because the energy need to sustain them is not infinite.

Almost everything in this game (why I'm convinced your dumb) requires obscene amounts of energy.

Your not smarter just because you say/think you are.

"For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"

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Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 489	Posted - 2014.03.29 22:02:00 - [31] - Quote CCP please just fix this already it's annoying
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 966	Posted - 2014.03.29 22:14:00 - [32] - Quote They should aid you when leaving, seeing if there's actual mass. Plasma/lasers should give 0 effect. Rails should have DPS reduced(yes.) and give more effect. Projectile should do less, but still effect. Explosive should just throw you out of the room, faster than a drunk at a night club. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13947	Posted - 2014.03.29 22:25:00 - [33] - Quote Never experienced the slowdown while shot bug but the equipment sprint bug and hillside quick sand nails me. >< CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 390	Posted - 2014.03.29 23:41:00 - [34] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Alpha 443-6732 wrote: Im sorry but if you're going to complain that speed tanking is dead because you can't phase through bullets, you are just bad why don't you try checking the area first before making any of your moves next time, pretty basic concept and stop exaggerating the slowing effect, we have much bigger things to concern ourselves about rather than a mechanics that is easily worked around Sooooo being forced to the speed of crouch walking is not a major issue? The major benefits of speed tankig is to dart in and out but when your constantly be forced to a crawl by stray bullets and the only way to stop it is to crouch then uncrouch is not a bs mechanic? why haven't I experienced this "slow to the speed of crouch walking" thing you guys are talking about, then? I've been shot while sprinting plenty of times. either provide actual proof or just stop using your anecdotes please
Boot Booter Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:26:00 - [35] - Quote OK people who haven't experienced it probably aren't using a speed suit. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not real. There's any different people in this thread saying g it happens. Also are some people actually using the "get gud it's not cod" argument? Wtf are you talking about? You just want to stand, ADS, and shoot. Hit and run tactics require the run part.
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 84	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:38:00 - [36] - Quote it sucks but oh well at least you know that it happens to everyone sooooooooooooooooooo unless you can fix it or ccp does get over it GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ ....... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!!!!!
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2314	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:42:00 - [37] - Quote It was commented on a while ago. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37153&find=unread It exists. It is intended. IMO its a fair thing vs scouts and other fast stuff. Imagine if we could we people!
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3208	Posted - 2014.03.30 01:33:00 - [38] - Quote It's real and extremely frustrating to experience when trying to run to cover. Get shot in the back and it's as if a giant hand is holding you in place to be killed. Once you are tagged by a single round CCP says "just stand there and let that guy finish you off." It may have been designed to slow strafing, but it slows running for cover just as much. It's basically a built in stasis effect for every weapon.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 490	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:47:00 - [39] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Never experienced the slowdown while shot bug but the equipment sprint bug and hillside quick sand nails me. >< I'm getting a cap card very soon and I will document every single glitch I find. This is not a mechanic, it's just plain old unfair. Why should I get punished by 1-3 shots regardless of its strength, from any distance and COMPLETELY stop all my actions. Stun-Lock my gun so I can't fire, run or jump? It honestly sounds like it's a way to slow down the game because from what I have heard/ experienced the game CANNOT process the speed at which people run.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 593	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:04:00 - [40] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I love writing about this stuff MONTHS AGO and now people just start noticing. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1289684#post1289684 STUN LOCKING^ Because everyone was in a logi suit at the time.. Mmmm Scout ak.0 Projects: TDBS \| SDETool

mollerz 3106	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:06:00 - [41] - Quote 100% bullshit. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 404	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:44:00 - [42] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......?????? Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much ting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable. Ok. 1) this isn't real life where you are protected by minimal body armor and skin. 2) WTF is a shield for?? Why does shooting my shield slow me down? Next time you think about posting... don't. 1) if you haven't noticed, in arms development since the dawn of time weapons have always been developed to beat armor and protection. Even the best and sturdiest body armor of today won't eliminate the pain and shock of taking a hit by a firearm. Why would the relationship between weapons technology and personal protection technology be any ***** different in Dust 514? (a hypothetical future scenario based on current, real world observations) 2) Study some ***** physics. The amounts of power needed to feasibly create a projected forcefield that completely eliminates any noticeable effect of getting hit by a firearm would be ridiculous. And we know for a fact that the shields in Dust aren't enough for that job (if they were, it would've been impossible to penetrate them and do damage to armor). From this we can logically deduce that the shields merely work by despersing kinetic and thermal energy and spreading it out over a larger area to make it less harmful (much like kevlar does, but as a projected forcefield surrounding the user rather than being worn as a garment). That doesn't mean it would stop you from feeling the hits and be affected by them. It only means that the hits won't kill you immediately. So the next time you think about giving me sass, boy. Remember that I am much, MUCH smarter than you...
fragmentedhackslash Arrogance. 234	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:51:00 - [43] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: They were trying to implement an impulse, but it doesn't seem to work right. It should push you away from the shooter, but instead it just prevents you from moving in any direction. Lasers should have almost 0 impulse, because of photons. I'm pretty sure a quick crouch uncrouch will fix it, but most of the time I die when that happens. Thankyou. Have all my likes. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 676	Posted - 2014.03.30 12:43:00 - [44] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......?????? Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much ting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable. Ok. 1) this isn't real life where you are protected by minimal body armor and skin. 2) WTF is a shield for?? Why does shooting my shield slow me down? Next time you think about posting... don't. -snip- blah -snip- 2) Study some ******* physics. The amounts of power needed to feasibly create a projected forcefield that completely eliminates any noticeable effect of getting hit by a firearm would be ridiculous. And we know for a fact that the shields in Dust aren't enough for that job (if they were, it would've been impossible to penetrate them and do damage to armor). From this we can logically deduce that the shields merely work by despersing kinetic and thermal energy and spreading it out over a larger area to make it less harmful (much like kevlar does, but as a projected forcefield surrounding the user rather than being worn as a garment). That doesn't mean it would stop you from feeling the hits and be affected by them. It only means that the hits won't kill you immediately. So the next time you think about giving me sass, boy. Remember that I am much, MUCH smarter than you... No, you're pretty dumb. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 61	Posted - 2014.03.30 13:08:00 - [45] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......?????? Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much ting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable. Ok. 1) this isn't real life where you are protected by minimal body armor and skin. 2) WTF is a shield for?? Why does shooting my shield slow me down? Next time you think about posting... don't. -snip- blah -snip- 2) Study some ******* physics. The amounts of power needed to feasibly create a projected forcefield that completely eliminates any noticeable effect of getting hit by a firearm would be ridiculous. And we know for a fact that the shields in Dust aren't enough for that job (if they were, it would've been impossible to penetrate them and do damage to armor). From this we can logically deduce that the shields merely work by despersing kinetic and thermal energy and spreading it out over a larger area to make it less harmful (much like kevlar does, but as a projected forcefield surrounding the user rather than being worn as a garment). That doesn't mean it would stop you from feeling the hits and be affected by them. It only means that the hits won't kill you immediately. So the next time you think about giving me sass, boy. Remember that I am much, MUCH smarter than you... No, you're pretty dumb. Shields in this game are depicted as a perfect defense otherwise the damage would bleed through to the armor underneath(why Kevlar is layered and usu. used in conjunction with steel or ceramic plates). If I had to pin a reason as to why they deplete is would be because the energy need to sustain them is not infinite. Almost everything in this game (why I'm convinced your dumb) requires obscene amounts of energy. Your not smarter just because you say/think you are. With all due respect, everything you put before this comment was childish and idiotic, he has good reason to think so, you do not. Try presenting what you have to say first rather than behaving like a fool and you'll avoid these situations. If you are trolling then I apologise, nice one lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2925	Posted - 2014.03.30 13:20:00 - [46] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I love writing about this stuff MONTHS AGO and now people just start noticing. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1289684#post1289684 STUN LOCKING^ Same with PC, I called how **** it was and where its going about a month into it, got called every name under the sun, now look. No doubt kain saw it as well, well played to him. Hopefully now its almost completely fked, it will finally be more like the e3 trailer than this joke bullsht SOONGäó. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 61	Posted - 2014.03.30 13:23:00 - [47] - Quote I support the slowdown effect, just accept that the laser rifles glorious swag deserves it. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 5	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:44:00 - [48] - Quote I however cannot support this mechanic! I could understand a mechanic to make you become stunned/stumble/be pushed around, but the slow down mechanic is completely broken and stupid. If I'm shot in the backside, I mean cough A** cough then I shouldn't be frozen in place running on a treadmill but rather pushed forward or some other such idea. If I'm falling through empty air and FREEZE when shot, then it's complete BS. I agree with many arguments within this topic that it is understandable that such a mechanic can seem like a more "realistic" idea, but where I agree with others who have suffered through it is that it is implemented in all the wrong ways and as such is currently BROKEN. Never mind realism with shields and armor, never mind realism with being hit by a high speed bullet, it just doesn't work well with the game. Maybe some people have yet to suffer through this mechanic. Okay, I'm willing to believe that, just as the aim assist only works with certain clients! There are aspects of Dust 514 that just seem to pick and choose who gets affected by specific mechanics and we the players/consumers cannot tell who becomes affected by which aspects. To those of you saying HTFU, I just want to ask you politely to please STFU and realize that if it doesn't happen to you, or at the least doesn't happen nearly as much as others are complaining, then don't start getting annoyed and pissed off when others get so frustrated with it that they complain to CCP here on the forums. Your friendly EVERYTHING, BrotherofHavok
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 356	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:11:00 - [49] - Quote For me it is rare, 1 time in 200 matches, and only once since I had my new Caldari scout. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1975	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:27:00 - [50] - Quote The mere presence of Nyan San on the battlefield is bug inducing. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.

RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 63	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:29:00 - [51] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: I however support this mechanic! Thank you. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 375	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:31:00 - [52] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I'm trying to sprint across a street a simple 20m gap, I get painted by a LR of all things suddenly the soles of my boots are made of tacky glue? By the time I died I came to a complete crawl/standstill with 2/3 of my stam left. I have no words to describe this mechanic, it's just complete **. Slowed down because of a ***** laser. That definitely needs to go as far as I'm concerned. Soon as you get hit by an LR or HMG, if you aren't right on top of a corner where you can get around it in about half a second, you're dead. That's a bunch of BS. As far as I'm concerned, it's an automatic crutch for HMG users. Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 8	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:55:00 - [53] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: I however support this mechanic! Thank you. get your quotes right.
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 63	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:56:00 - [54] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: RendonaSix wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: I however support this mechanic! Thank you. your quotes right. Why thank you, iv got prof 5 for that. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:30:00 - [55] - Quote HA HA HA- LAGGERS! CCP it's still to weak add another 30ms
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1895	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:43:00 - [56] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......?????? Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much. Getting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable. Exactly...look i know this game is not about realism but still. this new mechanic will reward intelligent players and punish those who do not want to use the brain that they have. It's an old mechanic that CCP introduced back in closed beta when the game couldn't keep up with scouts. It makes no sense and has a big effect on the overal feel of the game, which most reviewers decribe as clunky, awkward, second-rate and my favorite, 'about what you would expect from a free-to-play shooter'. The sloth mechanics isn't doing DUST any favours and it needs to go away forever and be replaced by a quality immersive mechanic that adds to the gameplay. My preferred candidate for a 'taking fire' mechanic is that getting hit significantly bumps up your dispersion and weapon kick. The effect should scale up with the caliber(technically momentum) of incoming rounds and scale down with suit mass. This would keep gameplay fast but still give an advantage to the merc who lands the first shot. It would also add another layer of sophistication to choosing your load out - if you were spawning into a heavy firefight you might wanna think about choosing low dispersion low kick weapons for your loadout. What we have now is cheezy and frankly embarrassing. I refuse to even mention it when i'm describing DUST's gunplay to peeps who don't play, because i know it'll turn them off immediately. I support SP rollover.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 56	Posted - 2014.03.30 22:11:00 - [57] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yea wtf is that sloth effect whn being shot ......?????? Try getting shot irl and see if you feel like running much. Getting at least a bit winded by getting shot by a weapon designed to kill people seems pretty reasonable. Exactly...look i know this game is not about realism but still. this new mechanic will reward intelligent players and punish those who do not want to use the brain that they have. Well then time to use that brain in your head cause you get a pop quiz! Here's the question How does a laser/bullet affect me when it is still only hitting my shield and not my person (armor)? No proto in public matches!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 8	Posted - 2014.03.30 22:28:00 - [58] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: RendonaSix wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: I however support this mechanic! Thank you. your quotes right. Why thank you, iv got prof 5 for that. (Rolled up newspaper) SLAP BAD! BAD!
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 975	Posted - 2014.03.30 22:38:00 - [59] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: No, you're pretty dumb. Shields in this game are depicted as a perfect defense otherwise the damage would bleed through to the armor underneath(why Kevlar is layered and usu. used in conjunction with steel or ceramic plates). If I had to pin a reason as to why they deplete is would be because the energy need to sustain them is not infinite. Almost everything in this game (why I'm convinced your dumb) requires obscene amounts of energy. Your not smarter just because you say/think you are. Shields absorb the energy of incoming weapons fire instead of blocking it. The amount of shields remaining is actually the remaining amount of energy that can be absorbed before the shield must be deactivated to allow the collected energy dissipate. This process is regulated by the suit to prevent releasing too much at once causing damage to yourself and your surroundings which is why they take time to recharge. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 63	Posted - 2014.03.30 22:51:00 - [60] - Quote Lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"



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