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Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:59:00 -
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PAST = I was once able to kill people sniping with a Kaalakaitikciaiticoa or wtf-ever the name of it is, or even a charged sniper rifle. This was due to 3 complex light damage mods giving me enough damage to take people out with 2 headshots or a headshot and body shot.
PRESENT = I can no longer kill anyone... literally. I swear, EVERYBODY I shoot (charged, regular, whatever) either has those 100% damage reduction mods that cost 0 CPU & 0 PG (the ones where you see 90% or 175% efficiency, which I'm sure is not a chance-to-hit calculation, and blue sparks as you shoot people in the face... again literally but nothing happens yet they know they've been shot enough to start playing hop-scotch across the map)
FUTURE = ??? Dunno if snipers are being phased out or what, but hopefully we can get at least a LITTLE bit of damage capability cause coooooooooooot D@MN this is ridiculous. I spend more time laughing at people surviving from me shooting them and looking at their HP left.
All I'm experiencing is:
Shield = 0, Armor = 0 - but... yet still running around shooting? Oh, "Hi ghost"... Didn't I kill you this morning? Wait, you got a gun? wtf..
Shield = 0, Armor = 1 - come on, wtf...
Shield = 0, Armor = 2 - ...
Shield = 0, Armor = 5 - Story of my life..
Shield = 0, Armor = 15 - Don't even care anymore... I'm used to it.
Shield = 0, Armor = 25 - LMAO, trolled by the NERF !!!
Shield = 0, Armor = 35 - Sure as hell missing those 10% damage modifiers...
I literally ONLY teched up to Complex light damage mods for sniping purposes to be able to actually kill people and skipped the 5% ones. Now the mods have gone from 2/3/5/10 to 2/3/4/5 = which is useless. I could see the nerf in aspects of regular guns, but snipers should not get that penalty. Damn near everybody on the game has 1000 HP or better, and 2 headshots isn't even killing half of them? ROFLMAO.
In order for a Sniper to kill you, you basically have to be holding a sign saying I want to die and will ALLOW you to kill me, in which case the sign would be a starter fit or the lightest suit with no armor. (basically the starter scout, frontline, medic suits are the ONLY ones you can just kill now)
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Adell Shinzumakami
60 Revolutions
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:02:00 -
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I just shoot anything that's standing still....
Once I finish reading your post I will type something more meaningful.
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:11:00 -
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wait, did you say folks have %100 damage reduction mods?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4849
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:17:00 -
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Use a Caldari Commando.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:17:00 -
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I stopped sniping when the new maps were introduced that were obviously biased against snipers and to me anyway it became zero fun. People have continued to ***** about red line snipers when half the maps now there are very very few places outside of the red line that allow for decent sniping.
Snipers now really annoy me but only because I know that they were hardcore and stayed dedicated far longer than I could have stood to even with the fact that on many maps they will be lucky to break 4 kills sitting there the whole time. |
Kara Anschel
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:20:00 -
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Really? I'm still seeing Thale's and Charged dominate maps, like the bridges, or Manus Peak. |
Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:21:00 -
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I remember when all you needed was Operation II and the basic Tactical rifle and you could destroy almost anyone.
Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
852
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:23:00 -
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I was a sniper during open beta, up until around September. I saw a gradual reduction in viability during that time, and second hand since.
I used to get OHK every now and again, up until 1.8. Now with squishy scouts nigh invisible, you have lost the one target you still had left.
Snipers need help.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:39:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:wait, did you say folks have %100 damage reduction mods?
That cost zero CPU and Grid. Cynicism at its best. 
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5506
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:42:00 -
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The SR is one example as to why you don't balance a weapon to the best users of said weapon.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
702
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:45:00 -
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Kara Anschel wrote:Really? I'm still seeing Thale's and Charged dominate maps, like the bridges, or Manus Peak.
You mean, you see the only rifles that can actually kill in the feeds? *gasp* how about that? It's as if it's a killfeed that shows what weapons could actually kill others in combat!
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Jaed D'jaegweir
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:02:00 -
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LOL my best is 584.3 meters 6 kills 5 assists no deaths
I have even resorted to using scout dropsuits with sniper rifle and an assault rifle with a compact nanohive with light and sidearm no changing dropsuits in the middle of the battle.
"We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
4526
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:09:00 -
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Did not read!
Lol
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:16:00 -
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I know a few Snipers.
I've seen one get 5 kills - each of which was a tide-turning moment - and only 1 death (when the enemy team finally brought a Counter-Sniper with a Thale's) using a MILITIA SNIPER RIFLE AND ONE MILITIA DAMAGE MOD.
Snipers do suffer more than most from the game's hit detection problems. Aim Assist on weapons which benefit from it aims your shots towards where the SERVER sees the target you're aim assisted onto. Turning aim assist off or using weapons without its benefits (like Sniper Rifles) means that you have to learn to lead your shots to account for lag. Also, you'll see the blue shield flash if you line up precisely on a target because that's generated client-side, but the damage is applied by server-side hit detection, so you might still miss even when you "hit".
The way DUST handles hit detection makes Sniper Rifles very idiosyncratic weapons, but if you learn to account for their oddities, they can still be pretty dangerous. |
Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:49:00 -
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Reallusion GrimSleeper wrote:
EVERYBODY I shoot (charged, regular, whatever) either has those 100% damage reduction mods that cost 0 CPU & 0 PG (the ones where you see 90% or 175% efficiency, which I'm sure is not a chance-to-hit calculation, and blue sparks as you shoot people in the face... again literally but nothing happens yet they know they've been shot enough to start playing hop-scotch across the map)
^^
For those that missed what I meant, I was sarcastically referring to shooting people in the head and doing 0 damage when I know they were hit, thus saying a 100% damage reduction mod.
@Garrett, that explanation about hit-detection actually explains a lot. I generally land many hits (that actually count) but lately I've been experiencing ridiculous lag where people moonwalk a few seconds, or the game just jumps 10 secs into the future on what would have been, etc. The way I was doing when I was getting as much as 19 kills in a game (back when sniping *worked*) was I'd lead my shots with a ratio of 1 pixel per 200m. So to shoot someone at 600m I'd generally lead them by 3 pixels and when I pull the trigger it generally hit. Either that or I'd guesstimate where they might be in that 3 seconds and just aim there then shoot a second before they get there. My main weapon was the NT-511 I think it was. Whichever was the ADV 100 RPM sniper rifle. I think it did like 186 damage or something. I forget exactly, but for the price difference between that and the PRO ones, it was a huge save on cost + did only slightly less damage.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:38:00 -
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Sniping has never been fun.
It's broken in this game
If I want to snipe I'd play bad company 2 or battlefield 3
Where it's actually fun and snipers aren't worthless.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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Otoky
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
149
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:20:00 -
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I think sniping is still a valid option, but true, its much more harder with the damage mod nerf. I totally understand why they did it (on assault role its a huge benefit) but for snipers.... its a must. 60-70% of my targets are escape with 10% or less HP.
But, as so many times been told before, adept or die. So I adept, looking for better spots, aiming more headshoot, defending bases.
All in all, I think sniping is still really good choose for ISK farming but after 1.8 I enjoy more the assault role. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
331
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:45:00 -
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Yep....... so I want my SP for the sniper rifle back. It's actually useless. Even the Thales is a shadow of its former glory. |
Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
282
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:49:00 -
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If you want to do something useful as a sniper, shoot enemy snipers (if necessary use a shotgun)!
nuff said |
fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
228
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:01:00 -
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Git gud.
Oh and Kane Spero is reducing the sniper range by half.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:10:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Git gud.
Oh and Kane Spero is reducing the sniper range by half.
WHY ?! IT'S A FUCKEN LONG RANGE WEAPON FOR A REASON
CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9"
I really want the templar set
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Mr Retsof VI
Swiss Bank of New Eden
52
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:38:00 -
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I am having more fun sniping now than before 1.8.....
"War is money...if you have it, you win."
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Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2014.03.29 13:42:00 -
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Mr Retsof VI wrote:I am having more fun sniping now than before 1.8.....
I enjoy sniping those cloaked scouts who THINK their invisible.
CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9"
I really want the templar set
Feel the wrath of my troll
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Otoky
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
149
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:33:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:Mr Retsof VI wrote:I am having more fun sniping now than before 1.8..... I enjoy sniping those cloaked scouts who THINK their invisible.
Same here. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:39:00 -
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get a cal commando built in dmg mods for sniper and rr
BACON
my recruiter link
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Jaster J
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
4
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:44:00 -
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Usually i hate being killed by snipers...mindless hatred and all that. But im all for snipers being able to actually do a proper job in this game. Anything for more diversity. |
Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:57:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:Mr Retsof VI wrote:I am having more fun sniping now than before 1.8..... I enjoy sniping those cloaked scouts who THINK their invisible.
LOL. It's definitely a rewarding experience, lol. Even Moreso when you watch them sneaking slowly then headshot them soon as they setup camping in their little corner. What's funny is so many of them do the same thing that is almost completely predictable. It's the ones that do things that make no logical sense that are hard to kill. But then again, unpredictability is the key to survival even in real war.
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Leanna Boghin
B.O.D.A.S
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:05:00 -
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MY advice stop playing the game and just AFK all the time. The have phased out so much of the good stuff in this game that now its not worth playing. Hell if i feel like playing a real match i just play in a free suit die lots of times and giggle that i killed people in proto gear and made them waste money in a pub match. As for sniping i used to kill plenty of people without complex damage mods on my suit with a charged rifle. Now it just seems weaker like they gave it a nerf but didnt tell anyone they were doing it. Its a shame really sniping was my only reason for staying with this game since they nerfed everything else to a point of complete uselessness. Oh well AFK514 here i come.
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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