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Meknow Intaki 103	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:01:00 - [1] - Quote The differance between how much isk the rich have and the kind of gear they can use versus how much isk and the kind of fits the average player has and can run is game breakingly great!! We could almost use separate rooms for standard, advanced and proto players and a forth for everyone Let the rich fight the rich and the rest of us can have fun and be happy
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4256	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:02:00 - [2] - Quote "Divide" I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote We don't have enough people to split the lobbies by gear type.
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 94	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:03:00 - [4] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: The differance between how much isk the rich have and the kind of gear they can use versus how much isk and the kind of fits the average player has and can run is game breakingly great!! We could almost use separate rooms for standard, advanced and proto players and a forth for everyone Let the rich fight the rich and the rest of us can have fun and be happy the average can run decent gear and still make money but yes im tired of all proto stomping games(nyain san is probably most hated corp in dust due to it) MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: The differance between how much isk the rich have and the kind of gear they can use versus how much isk and the kind of fits the average player has and can run is game breakingly great!! We could almost use separate rooms for standard, advanced and proto players and a forth for everyone Let the rich fight the rich and the rest of us can have fun and be happy While it would help rid a lot of stompers who rely on their gear, what about those people with genuine skill or at least maxed passives that just like to stomp. A squad of vets in ADV gear will still annihilate the players who are there because their gear forces them to be. By SP wouldn't work either. Two players with 20mil SP. One is laser focused on a specific role, not deviating one iota from plan. The other likes to experiment and be a jack of all trades, SP spread thinly across a multitude of roles. Regardless of player skill, the former has a distinct advantage. Yes matchmaking needs to be better. Doing it by gear or SP will present many of the same problems we have now, and the only way to counter will be when you unlock PRO tier. Of course by that point the ADV stompers will be the least of your worries, you're back on the bottom rung.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3197	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:18:00 - [6] - Quote You could matchmake by assets. Add up the ISK in the wallet with the ISK value of the gear in inventory. Add a factor for the amount of ISK transferred in from other sources (such as the corp wallet). That will cover those who hide their assets, but still draw from them to buy stuff. The idea is to separate those who are mega rich from the rest of the population. Those who could afford to throw away a dozen proto suits in a single match from those who scrimp and save. Match the mega-rich against the mega-rich so everyone has the same level of perceived risk.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1110	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:25:00 - [7] - Quote I want isk... *Assassination is my thing.*
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 61	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:25:00 - [8] - Quote This could interest you: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1906400#post1906400 We discussed some ideas about your concern.
Patrick57 6263	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:28:00 - [9] - Quote I was in a PC corp, and I doubt I have much more ISK than the average player, although I probably do have a lot more than an average noob.
Meknow Intaki 104	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:30:00 - [10] - Quote I understand the reasons why we can't have rooms based on drop suit/equipment class. But it would be nice to play some games where everyone has basic stuff running, if you tried to sneak a advanced or proto item on your drop suit it would turn red and you would be unable to use it. It would all come down to skill and teamwork and the ability to learn the game on a more fun and affordable level
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3201	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:47:00 - [11] - Quote It's as simple as balancing perceived risk. Imagine a high limit poker game with average Joes when a couple high rollers sit in. The new players wouldn't have to be any better than the other guys to win because they could buy a pot or simply play hands that the rest wouldn't think of. Now the normal guys are wondering if the high rollers have the cards or not. They can't bluff them and they are always worried the rich guys will just raise enough to steal the pot. The regulars find the game stressful and no longer fun. So they send the high rollers off to another game and resume their normal game.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 760	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:52:00 - [12] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: The differance between how much isk the rich have and the kind of gear they can use versus how much isk and the kind of fits the average player has and can run is game breakingly great!! We could almost use separate rooms for standard, advanced and proto players and a forth for everyone Let the rich fight the rich and the rest of us can have fun and be happy the average can run decent gear and still make money but yes im tired of all proto stomping games(nyain san is probably most hated corp in dust due to it) They lack skill so they q sync in proto and tanjs and in order to kioo they need higher hp damage and muktipke people ahooting 1 oerson at once... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Rusty Shallows 1296	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:04:00 - [13] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I want isk... +1 Almost Zen like. Personally I'd phrase it as follow: "Shut up OP and let me farm you to pad my KDR and fund my decedent Space-Rich lifestyle. Bling and girls ain't free, yo." Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Meknow Intaki 106	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:12:00 - [14] - Quote That's just it! The weak don't want to be farmed! It's not that people don't like getting killed, it's a part of the game. It's when your getting killed over & over in a fight you can't possibly win, and it's not because your a bad player but when your forced to run your weak gear and your fighting proto squads it just makes this game a unenjoyable experience..
Meknow Intaki 106	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:15:00 - [15] - Quote When people have to many unenjoyable experiences they just stop playing.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3755	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:15:00 - [16] - Quote I wouldn't call it great... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Meknow Intaki 106	Posted - 2014.03.29 00:36:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I wouldn't call it great... Then you must be one of them well off players who can run any fit any time. =ƒÆ+
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2210	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:13:00 - [18] - Quote Making ISK isn't difficult, it may be frustrating but it isn't difficult. The games enables anyone who is willing to run starter gear, it rewards them with ISK and better skill. A few hours a day for a few days of starter gear will make you a good bit of ISK. Augmented starter fits are cheap and work well With perfect armor skills a Gal starter with two enhanced plates and a complex plates has 653 armor at 4.47 m/s for 8,775 ISK two enhanced reactive and an enhanced plate has 471 armor, 2 HP/s at 4.75 m/s for 7,245 ISK two enhanced armor reps with a complex plate has 411 armor, 7.5 HP/s at 4.75m/s for 10,785 ISK "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
ELITE INQUISITOR Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 79	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:37:00 - [19] - Quote Why not decide the lobbies into people running solo and people running in squads If you accept your limitations you go beyond them EB Pub. <=====Eternal Beings public chat channel
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 478	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:48:00 - [20] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: The differance between how much isk the rich have and the kind of gear they can use versus how much isk and the kind of fits the average player has and can run is game breakingly great!! We could almost use separate rooms for standard, advanced and proto players and a forth for everyone Let the rich fight the rich and the rest of us can have fun and be happy I run crap gear but am ISK rich because of it. Even if I die over 20 times in a match, I'll still make ISK. So where does that place me? Also, I'm against class segregation. You should all fall before the might of my [insert weapon here] with equal opportunity. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )

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