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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
357
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:48:00 -
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most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool.
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2100
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:51:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool.
desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5463
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:51:00 -
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*grabs nachos*
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1260
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:53:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
Nope
Just calling out your QQ
The majority agree cloaks are fine as they are
Mabey a .5s weapon swap delay but that's it. |
Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
357
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:53:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
lol im not a shotguner i use scramblers so its not even my play style i just don't see the problem
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM
Lokun Listamenn
289
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:54:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
I don't use it and want to keep it. I min logi. I do just fine. There is a crutch for everyone here, some people are just great at using them and it stands out. Think of logi's that get 2000+ wp. Balance yes, but crutch calling, for shame.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
340
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:55:00 -
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no nerf can appease a small vocal minority of mouth breathers. they will cry for full removal of cloak and this will go on for months if not years. not sure if CPP has the backbone to stand up to this kind of prolonged QQ. they need to stop taking their forums to heart as much as they do and just make their game already.
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
513
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:56:00 -
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Strafe is a shotgun scout worst enemy.
Just count the time like you would the nade on how fast the SG shoots, then just dodge at those intervals.
Only that super fast shooting one ever really gets me if I have room to strafe. |
Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2100
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch. Nope Just calling out your QQ The majority agree cloaks are fine as they are Mabey a .5s weapon swap delay but that's it.
Youre the scrub that thinks ez mode shooting while cloaked is ok. Please get lost.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:58:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:*grabs nachos*
i got the dip!! 
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Grave Oblivion
3dge of D4rkness
20
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:01:00 -
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Cloak is fine if anything its too easy to see people when cloaked , there are times when a scout is standing still in front of me and I lol before I shoot there defenseless butt, because they believe they are fully invisible. It all comes down to paying attention to what's around u if you do then there easy spots if you don't then your giving them kills . |
Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
325
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:05:00 -
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You will never see a good scout whether he has a cloak or not.
Players crying about scouts and cloaks are just butt hurt they got ghosted from behind without any lube.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
139
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:06:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Strafe is a shotgun scout worst enemy.
Just count the time like you would the nade on how fast the SG shoots, then just dodge at those intervals.
Only that super fast shooting one ever really gets me if I have room to strafe.
Standard shotguns are two-hit kills. If they get you on the first hit, which is pretty much any decent cloaked scout can do, except those that stupidly run invisible out in the open in front of their target, they'll get you on the second hit. And that's any Sentinel heavy other than the Gallente. That one takes 3. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1262
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:09:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch. Nope Just calling out your QQ The majority agree cloaks are fine as they are Mabey a .5s weapon swap delay but that's it. Youre the scrub that thinks ez mode shooting while cloaked is ok. Please get lost.
Can't even read eh? |
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5251
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:09:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
Quit trying to blame your shortcomings on something else, if you cant see a cloaked Scout, well..... you need an eyetest.
Anyway, "Oh noo! Shotgun OHK me from within humping range! IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!! OP! OP!!!"
fuckign casuls
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
359
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:10:00 -
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if anything the shotgun itself needs to be looked at
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
585
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:20:00 -
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As other have mentioned before, this is the problem with cloaks.
It is just too much of an advantage to be able to secure great positioning with a high alpha weapon without being seen, and being able to become invisible afterwards.
Building off of other recent posters, I would say that we should implement a weapon tier based penalty to shooting after de-cloaking. Have a (very) slight increase to light weapons to capture the shotgun, and have no de-cloak penalty for sidearms. This way, if you want to be able to shoot directly after you decloak, then you can't use a high alpha weapon
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
360
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:35:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:As other have mentioned before, this is the problem with cloaks. It is just too much of an advantage to be able to secure great positioning with a high alpha weapon without being seen, and being able to become invisible afterwards. Building off of other recent posters, I would say that we should implement a weapon tier based penalty to shooting after de-cloaking. Have a (very) slight increase to light weapons to capture the shotgun, and have no de-cloak penalty for sidearms. This way, if you want to be able to shoot directly after you decloak, then you can't use a high alpha weapon
thats a different game
our cloaks are more visible while moving
you have to switch between cloak and gun
they could reload while cloaked we can't
we have to manually turn the cloak on
don't use game footage from another game
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
754
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:37:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
/looks at all posts and sees its just a kid who needs to get good
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2041
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:38:00 -
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Got a point.
If you get shotgun'd from the front by a cloaked scout, you deserve to die. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
409
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Got a point.
If you get shotgun'd from the front by a cloaked scout, you deserve to die.
Been saying this exact thing.
QQ? Boo Hoo
[Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
55
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:40:00 -
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My BIGGEST problem with cloaks
I can no longer play Dust chilling on my couch 10ft away from my TV. I have to actually pay ALOT more attention sitting 2-3ft from the screen which is very exhausting focusing extended amounts of time and not blinking. FML, heavies cant see sh it !! (>.<)
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
360
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:42:00 -
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the only thing the cloak does is help them get close
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
67
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:42:00 -
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/passes mountain dew
I serve Queen Dabomb
*Original Royal Guard
*Weapon Of Choice: MH-82 HMG
*Current Goal:Destroy Adonis's Tank
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1819
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:43:00 -
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If you want to make it feel better and be more in line with EVE standards, prevent any combat action after cloak is disengaged for a short period of time, like around 1-2 seconds. This assures the cloak effect is completely dispelled before shots can be fired.
If you really want to do it right, have the Cloaking skill reduce the delay, same as EVE.
Pokey Dravon for CPM1
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
1101
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:47:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:most of the time they shoot you from behind so who cares if they can get a shot off before being visible. its not going to make a difference if they become visible fast when switching to their gun from cloak, they're still going to get the first shoot even if you see them faster. and the idea of making it take longer to shoot after switching is just dumb thats like having a logi take longer to shoot after switching from his repair tool. desperately trying to defend your ez mode crutch.
Stop saying ez cos its easy.
Assassination is my thing.
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