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Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4942	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:06:00 - [1] - Quote Cat Merc and I brainstormed out an idea to add another active infantry module. This would be an Active Damage Modifier with no more than 8 second duration, no less than 40 second cooldown, and that adds around 20-30% damage to the user's current weapon. Cat ran the numbers for a 30% bonus on a Duvolle Assault Rifle: Total Damage Standard: 1980 Total Damage with Damage Mod: 2574 DPS Standard: 412.5 DPS with Damage Mod: 536.25 As you can see, this provides a temporary but substantial bonus to the combat viability of the player. Ideally, this module would come with a fitting bonus given only to Assault suits, and have an associated visual effect to make its usage apparent to other players nearby. I can't seem to find a .gif to link here, but I would think an effect similar to activating Triage on a Carrier in EVE would work, with some kind of light-effect pulsing along the suit. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7824	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:08:00 - [2] - Quote Meow. I would like this module to have high fitting requirements, similar to the cloak, so suits like the logistics couldn't just stack it and get 90% damage bonus. And then give a bonus to the assault, like the scout. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4943	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:10:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Meow. I would like this module to have high fitting requirements, similar to the cloak, so suits like the logistics couldn't just stack it and get 90% damage bonus. And then give a bonus to the assault, like the scout. On that note, I think we could possibly institute a limit of only one Active Module on a suit. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7824	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:11:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Meow. I would like this module to have high fitting requirements, similar to the cloak, so suits like the logistics couldn't just stack it and get 90% damage bonus. And then give a bonus to the assault, like the scout. On that note, I think we could possibly institute a limit of only one Active Module on a suit. Yes, the cloak does the same thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4944	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:19:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Meow. I would like this module to have high fitting requirements, similar to the cloak, so suits like the logistics couldn't just stack it and get 90% damage bonus. And then give a bonus to the assault, like the scout. On that note, I think we could possibly institute a limit of only one Active Module on a suit. Yes, the cloak does the same thing. And speaking of the cloak, I would think the existing cloak UI would work just fine. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:56:00 - [6] - Quote Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down...
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7827	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:58:00 - [7] - Quote M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4947	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:59:00 - [8] - Quote M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... This assumes that all the rifles are brought into balance, and the idea is that this makes an Assault suit a major threat within a brief window. The long cooldown stops it from being spammed, and the brief duration means you only really have time for one magazine at the most, so you need to make your hits count. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:03:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Lol did I touch a sore spot....? And who's attacking who ? This is the feedback section I didn't know if someone disagreed that was considered attacking.. I dont believe I called you an idiot, thanks btw for showing your true colors, you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen... Awaiting an educated response to why this is needed... Besides Soloing a heavy.. ?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7828	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:06:00 - [10] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Lol did I touch a sore spot....? And who's attacking who ? This is the feedback section I didn't know if someone disagreed that was considered attacking.. I dont believe I called you an idiot, thanks btw for showing your true colors, you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen... Awaiting an educated response to why this is needed... Besides Soloing a heavy.. ? Your passive aggressiveness does not bother me. The fact that you ruin a perfectly good thread with your obvious dislike of me is what I'm pissed about. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:07:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... This assumes that all the rifles are brought into balance, and the idea is that this makes an Assault suit a major threat within a brief window. The long cooldown stops it from being spammed, and the brief duration means you only really have time for one magazine at the most, so you need to make your hits count. Ahhh there we go thanks! Yeah definitely balance first would be a good thing then I could see this being a fun module if the cool down was long then % 20 wouldn't be bad.. Something along the lines of a cool down limiting it to so many times in say a 30min period ?
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4947	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:08:00 - [12] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Lol did I touch a sore spot....? And who's attacking who ? This is the feedback section I didn't know if someone disagreed that was considered attacking.. I dont believe I called you an idiot, thanks btw for showing your true colors, you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen... Awaiting an educated response to why this is needed... Besides Soloing a heavy.. ? What can an Assault suit do right now that any other suit can't do better? The small bonuses they have right now aren't enough to make them a threat on the battlefield when you can get more HP with a Scout, and far more DPS and HP with a Heavy. That's just two examples. I didn't even go into how Logistics suits still have more slots than any other suit, meaning that you can get far better hp out of them, and the equipment fitting bonus means you can fill all those slots and still have room left for a Proto gun. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7828	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:08:00 - [13] - Quote M McManus wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... This assumes that all the rifles are brought into balance, and the idea is that this makes an Assault suit a major threat within a brief window. The long cooldown stops it from being spammed, and the brief duration means you only really have time for one magazine at the most, so you need to make your hits count. Ahhh there we go thanks! Yeah definitely balance first would be a good thing then I could see this being a fun module if the cool down was long then % 20 wouldn't be bad.. Something along the lines of a cool down limiting it to so many times in say a 30min period ? 30 min would mean once a match. A match is 15 minutes. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:12:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Lol did I touch a sore spot....? And who's attacking who ? This is the feedback section I didn't know if someone disagreed that was considered attacking.. I dont believe I called you an idiot, thanks btw for showing your true colors, you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen... Awaiting an educated response to why this is needed... Besides Soloing a heavy.. ? Your passive aggressiveness does not bother me. The fact that you ruin a perfectly good thread with your obvious dislike of me is what I'm pissed about. Actually you are continuing to ruin this thread by still only seeing yourself in this matter its called humility good sir try it sometime.. I was simply adding locker room banter because the majority of your posts are pro armor and anti shields/anything that kills armor .... like I sad thank you for proving my point... Now back to business..
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7828	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:14:00 - [15] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... Obviously you didn't read the post. Before you attack an idea, make sure to read it so you don't end up being a complete idiot. Lol did I touch a sore spot....? And who's attacking who ? This is the feedback section I didn't know if someone disagreed that was considered attacking.. I dont believe I called you an idiot, thanks btw for showing your true colors, you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen... Awaiting an educated response to why this is needed... Besides Soloing a heavy.. ? Your passive aggressiveness does not bother me. The fact that you ruin a perfectly good thread with your obvious dislike of me is what I'm pissed about. Actually you are continuing to ruin this thread by still only seeing yourself in this matter its called humility good sir try it sometime.. I was simply adding locker room banter because the majority of your posts are pro armor and anti shields/anything that kills armor .... like I sad thank you for proving my point... Now back to business.. Try it yourself. Never attack another person, even if it's a passive attack, and don't expect to have the favor returned. Besides, I did raise a good point from the very first point. You didn't read the post, you just went straight to typing how broken 30% damage would be. I bet you didn't even take 5 seconds to think about what to type, and completely ignored the rest of the thread. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to by biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:22:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... This assumes that all the rifles are brought into balance, and the dissection fhat this makes an Assault suit a major threat within a brief window. The long cooldown stops it from being spammed, and the brief duration means you only really have time for one magazine at the most, so you need to make your hits count. Ahhh there we go thanks! Yeah definitely balance first would be a good thing then I could see this being a fun module if the cool down was long then % 20 wouldn't be bad.. Something along the lines of a cool down limiting it to so many times in say a 30min period ? 30 min would mean once a match. A match is 15 minutes. Jesus Christ are you going to quit seeing red and actually get some reading comprehension for a second... I said, So many times in 30minute period I've had many domination and even skirmish matches easily last 30 mins... Basing it off of a 15 minute window is assuming everyone can complete a match in 15mins... but let me break it down in catmerc match time if this module can be used 8times in 30 mins then it can be used 4times in 15minutes... So what's that a 3.75minute cool down this may or may not be to long but let me put a humble disclaimer in here (this is the section for ideas and discussion) so lets discuss... I dont think its to long because theoretically a whole 6man squad could run it and alternate damage and cool downs kind of like a ultimate ability in MOBAS..
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11866	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:22:00 - [17] - Quote Could you two stop bickering? Leave it at that. Just stop. Okay? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7832	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:25:00 - [18] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: M McManus wrote: Let me guess CatMerc only wants this to do the extra damage to shields and not stack with the RR ? Why is this needed the TTK only increased on heavies and %20-30 8 seconds lol... That is way to high this seems like an I WIN button especially with damage mods being in high slots im sure armor users love this idea.. I would think %10 for 8seconds or % 20 for 4seconds and it would have ti be a long ass cool down... This assumes that all the rifles are brought into balance, and the dissection fhat this makes an Assault suit a major threat within a brief window. The long cooldown stops it from being spammed, and the brief duration means you only really have time for one magazine at the most, so you need to make your hits count. Ahhh there we go thanks! Yeah definitely balance first would be a good thing then I could see this being a fun module if the cool down was long then % 20 wouldn't be bad.. Something along the lines of a cool down limiting it to so many times in say a 30min period ? 30 min would mean once a match. A match is 15 minutes. Jesus Christ are you going to quit seeing red and actually get some reading comprehension for a second... I said, So many times in 30minute period I've had many domination and even skirmish matches easily last 30 mins... Basing it off of a 15 minute window is assuming everyone can complete a match in 15mins... but let me break it down in catmerc match time if this module can be used 8times in 30 mins then it can be used 4times in 15minutes... So what's that a 3.75minute cool down this may or may not be to long but let me put a humble disclaimer in here (this is the section for ideas and discussion) so lets discuss... I dont think its to long because theoretically a whole 6man squad could run it and alternate damage and cool downs kind of like a ultimate ability in MOBAS.. I wasn't seeing a red, I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying. Anyhow, this isn't a MOBA, this is an FPS, and an equipment with a full 210 seconds cooldown with 8 seconds duration... I would just use a nanohive and not bother. This isn't nearly as broken as it would seem if you actually took a minute to think about it. At most you would get a single clip out in the 8 seconds you get, that's one clip of extra damage. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11866	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: -snip forum PvP- Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Could you two stop bickering? Leave it at that. Just stop. Okay? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7832	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:30:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cat Merc wrote: -snip forum PvP- Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Could you two stop bickering? Leave it at that. Just stop. Okay? We stopped bickering, I was just saying why 210 seconds cooldown is just lol My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.

calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2258	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:35:00 - [21] - Quote is this a buff sniper thread from cat merc O.o seems like one because this owuld help them more then any other class lol
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:38:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I wasn't seeing a red, I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying. Anyhow, this isn't a MOBA, this is an FPS, and an equipment with a full 210 seconds cooldown with 8 seconds duration... I would just use a nanohive and not bother. This isn't nearly as broken as it would seem if you actually took a minute to think about it. At most you would get a single clip out in the 8 seconds you get, that's one clip of extra damage. That makes sense but part of me still feels like if it's not a longer cool down it will be spammed and stack with damage mods.. Especially if its % 20-30 although if you keep the lower cool down and make it %10-15, that would make more sense to me because you could still get the %20 and it wouldn't be game breaking having a whole squad of armor tankers spamming %40 damage.. I only use armor as an example because you and I both know shield suits can't stack damage mods as well as armor suits are able to..
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7832	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:40:00 - [23] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I wasn't seeing a red, I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying. Anyhow, this isn't a MOBA, this is an FPS, and an equipment with a full 210 seconds cooldown with 8 seconds duration... I would just use a nanohive and not bother. This isn't nearly as broken as it would seem if you actually took a minute to think about it. At most you would get a single clip out in the 8 seconds you get, that's one clip of extra damage. That makes sense but part of me still feels like if it's not a longer cool down it will be spammed and stack with damage mods.. Especially if its % 20-30 although if you keep the lower cool down and make it %10-15, that would make more sense to me because you could still get the %20 and it wouldn't be game breaking having a whole squad of armor tankers spamming %40 damage.. I only use armor as an example because you and I both know shield suits can't stack damage mods as well as armor suits are able to.. At this point, not even armor tankers use damage mods. Shield extenders are simply a better choice. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7832	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:41:00 - [24] - Quote calisk galern wrote: is this a buff sniper thread from cat merc O.o seems like one because this owuld help them more then any other class lol This isn't really a sniper buff, though I see how it would help them. 8 seconds of having a powerful sniper doesn't sound too bad to me. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11866	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:43:00 - [25] - Quote calisk galern wrote: is this a buff sniper thread from cat merc O.o seems like one because this owuld help them more then any other class lol It'd be a nice module for snipers to be sure. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
M McManus 472	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:49:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I wasn't seeing a red, I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying. Anyhow, this isn't a MOBA, this is an FPS, and an equipment with a full 210 seconds cooldown with 8 seconds duration... I would just use a nanohive and not bother. This isn't nearly as broken as it would seem if you actually took a minute to think about it. At most you would get a single clip out in the 8 seconds you get, that's one clip of extra damage. That makes sense but part of me still feels like if it's not a longer cool down it will be spammed and stack with damage mods.. Especially if its % 20-30 although if you keep the lower cool down and make it %10-15, that would make more sense to me because you could still get the %20 and it wouldn't be game breaking having a whole squad of armor tankers spamming %40 damage.. I only use armor as an example because you and I both know shield suits can't stack damage mods as well as armor suits are able to.. At this point, not even armor tankers use damage mods. Shield extenders are simply a better choice. Yet again you can't just assume people aren't doing something... I know multiple people running a complex damage mod and holding a 4+ KDR in every match I can guarantee you with this module even the people that DO NOT run damage mods will... Sure when you're talking +5 people may or may not run modifiers but when your talking about going from % 15 +5 = % 20 or even %35-38 you can bet people will stack them instead of extenders...
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10162	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:18:00 - [27] - Quote My name is KAGEHOSHI, and I approve this message. Scouts get their cloaks, I think all specializations (with equipment slots) should get their own kind of special "active module" equipment. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7834	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:35:00 - [28] - Quote M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: M McManus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I wasn't seeing a red, I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying. Anyhow, this isn't a MOBA, this is an FPS, and an equipment with a full 210 seconds cooldown with 8 seconds duration... I would just use a nanohive and not bother. This isn't nearly as broken as it would seem if you actually took a minute to think about it. At most you would get a single clip out in the 8 seconds you get, that's one clip of extra damage. That makes sense but part of me still feels like if it's not a longer cool down it will be spammed and stack with damage mods.. Especially if its % 20-30 although if you keep the lower cool down and make it %10-15, that would make more sense to me because you could still get the %20 and it wouldn't be game breaking having a whole squad of armor tankers spamming %40 damage.. I only use armor as an example because you and I both know shield suits can't stack damage mods as well as armor suits are able to.. At this point, not even armor tankers use damage mods. Shield extenders are simply a better choice. Yet again you can't just assume people aren't doing something... I know multiple people running a complex damage mod and holding a 4+ KDR in every match I can guarantee you with this module even the people that DO NOT run damage mods will... Sure when you're talking +5 people may or may not run modifiers but when your talking about going from % 15 +5 = % 20 or even %35-38 you can bet people will stack them instead of extenders... They can do whatever they want, pub matches are easy. But shield extenders are superior, mathematically and logically. They simply are. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.


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