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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:55:00 -
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OK, stop me if you've heard this one, but I've had another thought.....
Average War Points
A new stat on your character sheet; Average War Points Per Battle.
Scotty checks this and puts you up against others in your tier.
As you get better you move up.
I'll not get too deep as I think you all get the gist.
... and the this will probably get hammered anyway
and yes I did search for this already, didn't find anything |
Forever ETC
703rd
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:57:00 -
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Maybe make a range of Total SP, Total WP, and Average WP per battle.
Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd.
Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
ETC- My Initials!!
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.28 02:06:00 -
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What about matches where you come in half way through?
AFKing?
Warpoint rewards are also far from balanced so certain playstyles get more WP which will skew the metric.
Too easy to abuse - just AFK a bunch of matches to bring down your AWP.
Not to mention the main reason matchmaking is not working well is probably the low playerbase, 7 different battle queues (Skirm, Amb, Dom, FWx4) and 4 different battle servers. Scotty just doesn't get enough people to work with given the current low wait times. |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2014.03.28 02:30:00 -
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I think WP per battle is really the only metric needed.
Total is misleading. I could have 3 times as many as you but only make 100 per battle, I've just been playing (and sucking) for far longer, and I would have more sp too.
If your afk then you get 0 WP and deserve what you get. Halfway through is a good point, but after hundreds of battles, that one match wont hurt your average. |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:49:00 -
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Mishra's Dragon
Dark Side Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:00:00 -
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I think of this suggestion this way: If you're matching up people with the average war points, then wouldn't you be matching all the Logi's together? I mean, my friend who is a Amarr Logi earn over 2500 points per battle because of his uplinks and the same goes to my Mimatar Logi friend who just runs around repairing me.
Join the Dark Side Alliance, we have cookies and milk~ Mishy the Sentinal loves logi attentions <3
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:03:00 -
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Average war points doesn't work because the war points between play styles isn't equivalent. You'd end up with full teams of logis on both sides.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:19:00 -
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That is a good point Mishra. Hadn't thought of that.
I think, though, that the matching could be set up a bit broader to allow a wider range. |
shadow drake35
the third day
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:58:00 -
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if most disagree its because a protostomper war
MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:12:00 -
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I read a lot about matchmaking, and I think it is desperately needed. A cool thread was this. There where some alternative ideas for matchmaking without comparing the most obvious and general numbers. Had fun reading and writing about it:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1906400#post1906400
I think the main problem is, that the mindset of EVE is: let the guys fight out whos on the top and whos not. The problem: space. In EVE (as I hear) is lots of space, where you can roam around and doing your business ... avoiding fights entirely. In dust, we are all locked into the same tiny cage and fighting is the only business thats there. So yeah, its absurdly rough, without matchmaking.
Well I guess PVE would solve most of the problems we think about so much. |
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:36:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:OK, stop me if you've heard this one, but I've had another thought.....
Average War Points
A new stat on your character sheet; Average War Points Per Battle.
Scotty checks this and puts you up against others in your tier.
As you get better you move up.
I'll not get too deep as I think you all get the gist.
... and the this will probably get hammered anyway
and yes I did search for this already, didn't find anything
um .... this will very quickly become tanks + logis vs tanks and logis... and so on.
we need SP tiers, not WP tiers.
Just read the damn thread
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