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Savaric Koldaga Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome...
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1272	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:50:00 - [2] - Quote Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Did you want the suit or not? Best PvE idea ever!
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 478	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:51:00 - [3] - Quote Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1095	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:51:00 - [4] - Quote AHAHAHHAHAAH its what you get for specking into easy FOTM! No seriously, i'm sorry for your lost. *Assassination is my thing.*
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1095	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:53:00 - [5] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo Is your scout channel "Ways of scouts"? cos i can't get it to work.... *Assassination is my thing.*
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 478	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:54:00 - [6] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo Is your scout channel "Ways of scouts"? cos i can't get it to work.... Ways of Scouting
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1924	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:54:00 - [7] - Quote you still get to use that proto suit even though you shouldn't be able to for another 1,000,000 sp. you should be happy that you got early access to the suit, instead of bitching at CCP because they made the skill right. once you get that million sp, it'll be as if you skilled into it normally, so unless you were just trying to abuse the suit expecting to get sp refunded, then there is absolutely no problem. Anime > EVERYTHING
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 478	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:56:00 - [8] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: you still get to use that proto suit even though you shouldn't be able to for another 1,000,000 sp. you should be happy that you got early access to the suit, instead of bitching at CCP because they made the skill right. once you get that million sp, it'll be as if you skilled into it normally, so unless you were just trying to abuse the suit expecting to get sp refunded, then there is absolutely no problem. The same thing happened to me but I actually WANTED this suit for a long time haha
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1924	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:56:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo Is your scout channel "Ways of scouts"? cos i can't get it to work.... Ways of Scouting Next week I will try my best to Squad up with more Scouts and spread some love of knowledge that I have learned from not only playing Scout but by hunting. (Real Life) so what's that channel for? another "Scouts United", or like a training grounds for new scouts? Anime > EVERYTHING
Savaric Koldaga Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:56:00 - [10] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: AHAHAHHAHAAH its what you get for specking into easy FOTM! No seriously, i'm sorry for your lost. I really only use it for a speed suit mainly run heavy. In the long run I don't care because I speced into everything I wanted but being someone who almost never reads forums it should be listed in game. And I skilled into what they had listed. So they shoulda just respected that suit instead a makin me go neg. would put the points right back :p

MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 633	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:56:00 - [11] - Quote So, if they did refund the skill, you wouldn't have made a topic going "Hey WTF, I got proto amarr scouts and when I saw I had SP left over I spent it in a bunch of other skills, and now that you refunded the skill I don't have enough to get proto amarr scouts again! I'm stuck with an ADV when everyone else has proto scouts and its really hard to fit a cloak without the full bonus and CCP WHY DO YOU HATE ME"?
Savaric Koldaga Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:05:00 - [12] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: So, if they did refund the skill, you wouldn't have made a topic going "Hey WTF, I got proto amarr scouts and when I saw I had SP left over I spent it in a bunch of other skills, and now that you refunded the skill I don't have enough to get proto amarr scouts again! I'm stuck with an ADV when everyone else has proto scouts and its really hard to fit a cloak without the full bonus and CCP WHY DO YOU HATE ME"? Na it's an OCD thing. I have a list of what to skill into I woulda gotten the suit then worked on other things. Rather happy with the update cept for a few small things. Just hate when ccp messes with the order of my stuff lol
Marc Rime 332	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:07:00 - [13] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: So, if they did refund the skill, you wouldn't have made a topic going "Hey WTF, I got proto amarr scouts and when I saw I had SP left over I spent it in a bunch of other skills, and now that you refunded the skill I don't have enough to get proto amarr scouts again! I'm stuck with an ADV when everyone else has proto scouts and its really hard to fit a cloak without the full bonus and CCP WHY DO YOU HATE ME"? Which would actually be a valid complaint. Good thing they didn't do that ;).
Tupni Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 74	Posted - 2014.03.28 20:41:00 - [14] - Quote Personally, I feel that the Amarr Scout situation was not handled well. They're already one of the least popular (read, 'least useful') suits in the game at the moment, and not to mention you NEVER EVER take things away from a player for YOUR OWN MISTAKE. Ask the players how they'd like to handle this? Offer a refund? Sure, but going, 'Oh, by the way this ACTUALLY costs this much and I'll just forcibly help myself to your wallet here....thank you! Oh, well, actually you'll owe me some now, but it's cool, I'll just garnish 100% of your wages for a while. We cool? Yes we are, because I say so.' is more than a little unacceptable... I'm not even personally affected by this but my goodness, that's not even video game 101 that's a basic act of reasoning relevant to any service/entertainment industry. I mean, it's nearly a moot point seeing as so few people bothered to spec into the hobbled Amarr scout suit, but still. MrShooter01 wrote: So, if they did refund the skill, you wouldn't have made a topic going "Hey WTF, I got proto amarr scouts and when I saw I had SP left over I spent it in a bunch of other skills, and now that you refunded the skill I don't have enough to get proto amarr scouts again! I'm stuck with an ADV when everyone else has proto scouts and its really hard to fit a cloak without the full bonus and CCP WHY DO YOU HATE ME"? Well, no matter how you look at it, CCP did make a mistake and would have earned a measure of disappointment either way, so what you're saying isn't without merit, because someone probably would have made such a thread, but at the same time the hypothetical action on behalf of the OP would also still be justified.
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 891	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:01:00 - [15] - Quote Dont care that im in the hole i what i needed and that was the ability to easily fit a cloak on my Amarr LR scout Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1421	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:03:00 - [16] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: you still get to use that proto suit even though you shouldn't be able to for another 1,000,000 sp. you should be happy that you got early access to the suit, instead of bitching at CCP because they made the skill right. once you get that million sp, it'll be as if you skilled into it normally, so unless you were just trying to abuse the suit expecting to get sp refunded, then there is absolutely no problem. The same thing happened to me but I actually WANTED this suit for a long time haha I'm a mil in the hole but the scout with an endurance bonus is what I've been waiting for for over a year eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1421	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:04:00 - [17] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Dont care that im in the hole i what i needed and that was the ability to easily fit a cloak on my Amarr LR scout isn't it awesome! the feedback takes half of my hp, but it's worth it! eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3690	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:05:00 - [18] - Quote This was the right thing to do if you were serious about the Amarr Scout it wouldn't have made a difference. But from the looks of it you just wanted to "try it out".......to level 5
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 636	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:05:00 - [19] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo You know I do not feel really strongly either way, but this post is b.s. So apparently it was the customers job to not trust what CCP had done, to log on to the forums and sift through the post, and then to meticulously study the skill multipliers of each skill in play? No, this is CLEARLY CCP's fault. There is no way around it. How they deal with it is up to them. Victim blaming (what you are doing) is the just a horrible thing to do, and only a horrible person does it. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 891	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:06:00 - [20] - Quote low genius wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Dont care that im in the hole i what i needed and that was the ability to easily fit a cloak on my Amarr LR scout isn't it awesome! the feedback takes half of my hp, but it's worth it! Thats what the double reps and enhanced plates are for xD Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1430	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:11:00 - [21] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: low genius wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Dont care that im in the hole i what i needed and that was the ability to easily fit a cloak on my Amarr LR scout isn't it awesome! the feedback takes half of my hp, but it's worth it! Thats what the double reps and enhanced plates are for xD I've been running a plate and two reactives in my lows. then switch out for a sensor damp if i'm getting snuck up on. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 484	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:13:00 - [22] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo You know I do not feel really strongly either way, but this post is b.s. So apparently it was the customers job to not trust what CCP had done, to log on to the forums and sift through the post, and then to meticulously study the skill multipliers of each skill in play? No, this is CLEARLY CCP's fault. There is no way around it. How they deal with it is up to them. Victim blaming (what you are doing) is the just a horrible thing to do, and only a horrible person does it. I swear you have a thing for me.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3775	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:17:00 - [23] - Quote I heard about this and chuckled. Can someone explain to me, again, how this all happened? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 318	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:31:00 - [24] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I heard about this and chuckled. Can someone explain to me, again, how this all happened? CCP accidentally made the normal 8x multiplier for Amarr Scout 4x instead. After realizing their mistake, they charged the people who had invested in the skill already for the difference, putting many into negative SP to the tune of 500k-1M+, meaning they cannot accrue any usable SP until they reach 0 again.
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 640	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:43:00 - [25] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Savaric Koldaga wrote: So instead of respecing that skill to fix your mistake I'm 1mill sp in the hole now? Awesome... Hate to say it man, but they did disclose that there were some problems with the patch and was IN NEED of a hotfix. Plus, why didnt you read the stats of the suit in skills? It clearly showed 4x...... Just saying Amigo You know I do not feel really strongly either way, but this post is b.s. So apparently it was the customers job to not trust what CCP had done, to log on to the forums and sift through the post, and then to meticulously study the skill multipliers of each skill in play? No, this is CLEARLY CCP's fault. There is no way around it. How they deal with it is up to them. Victim blaming (what you are doing) is the just a horrible thing to do, and only a horrible person does it. I swear you have a thing for me. No offense but I do not remember you. Did we cross paths before? EDIT: also sorry if I came off a bit aggressive, in my country there is a real problem with victim blaming. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2581	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:51:00 - [26] - Quote Ehh I'm not butt hurt about it but the fact that its still UP bonus wise ( You know it is so don't make me throw a book at you on the 101 of common sense ) and there hasn't been one post stating "we are looking into this". Plus I was already about to spec into commando suits just to log on 1 day with -1.1 million sp... P.S. we also need a .1 speed buff Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(


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