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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:33:00 -
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So, in classic CCP fashion, they go ahead and buff railtanks (despite the range nerf) by addressing hardeners, while completely ignoring damage mods, railgun RoF, or the redline (which is a festering wound that can't be hotfixed). So while you won't be insta gib'd from halfway across the map, now you simply have no defenses against damage stacked rails when you go into that side of the map. Before you could use two hardeners to attempt to escape that damage, as a single hardener is not enough damage mitigation against double damage mods, never mind triple.
Forge guns already we very balanced against the Incubus in particular, and while this 15% may not completely push things over the edge, it is certainly a large buff for any forge gunner who can aim. CCP doesn't address swarm launchers, presumably because it's a deeper coding issue and isn't something they can hotfix.
The redline is the main issue with railguns, as it's a failed mechanic that does nothing to help the game, prevent spawn camping, or offer a safe place to regroup. It is nothing short of a failure that makes balancing the game impossible and ensures that maps are NEVER opened up beyond where they are now. It encourages fitting glass tanks with damage mods that are so incredibly good that CCP actually forgot they exist, since you can fit all gank and no tank with no down sides (and now you can't counter them with your own rail unless you pull it deep into the field where it is highly vulnerable, and the redline tank is still safe and cozy)
GG CCP. Why don't you try treating the sickness instead of the symptom? Railgun range was annoying, not broken. Railgun RoF and Damage mods are broken.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1914
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:35:00 -
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cap dmg mods and hardeners to 1 on all vehicles. I-Śm telling you and CCP this is the ultimate solution. But they didnt listen...
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12600
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:37:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:cap dmg mods and hardeners to 1 on all vehicles. I-Śm telling you and CCP this is the ultimate solution. But they didnt listen...
I thought the exact same thing of hardeners. Single hardeners weren't a problem, stacking was.
CCP just doesn't think things through, they all take shots, spin around in circles, and throw darts at a board. I am thoroughly convinced of this at this point.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1914
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:42:00 -
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The thing is, these are not the only mods with stacking issues in the game... Just look at how abused brick tanking is. I even abuse it.
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12601
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:43:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:The thing is, these are not the only mods with stacking issues in the game... Just look at how abused brick tanking is. I even abuse it.
You're 100% right. Look at triple rep Madrugars, which will now be just that much more popular. CCP is actively seeking to reduce variety in the game, and reduce it to a 100% passive state where everyone brick tanks and avoids active modules.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
909
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:47:00 -
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These changes prove that CCP is blindly stumbling from change to change without any plan or vision.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8979
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:cap dmg mods and hardeners to 1 on all vehicles. I-Śm telling you and CCP this is the ultimate solution. But they didnt listen... I thought the exact same thing of hardeners. Single hardeners weren't a problem, stacking was. (and I agree with 1 damage mod as well) Or, you can make it so only one can be active at any given time, so you can fit multiples for less downtime, but you can never gain more than any one module would give you. CCP just doesn't think things through, they all take shots, spin around in circles, and throw darts at a board. I am thoroughly convinced of this at this point.
You don't need arbitrary caps to de incentivise Hardeners and Damage modules. Making their efficiency in as a module smaller than their costs to fit you have modules that sure you can stack......but at the heavy detriment of other aspect of your vehicle. I don't think anything fitting wise in dust should be prevented....... but incentivised and deincentivised..... heck yes.
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-Dagger Two
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12603
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:cap dmg mods and hardeners to 1 on all vehicles. I-Śm telling you and CCP this is the ultimate solution. But they didnt listen... I thought the exact same thing of hardeners. Single hardeners weren't a problem, stacking was. (and I agree with 1 damage mod as well) Or, you can make it so only one can be active at any given time, so you can fit multiples for less downtime, but you can never gain more than any one module would give you. CCP just doesn't think things through, they all take shots, spin around in circles, and throw darts at a board. I am thoroughly convinced of this at this point. You don't need arbitrary caps to de incentivise Hardeners and Damage modules. Making their efficiency in as a module smaller than their costs to fit you have modules that sure you can stack......but at the heavy detriment of other aspect of your vehicle. I don't think anything fitting wise in dust should be prevented....... but incentivised and deincentivised..... heck yes.
I think many of us have given up on complicated fixes, since CCP clearly doesn't want that. Right now, for now, I think we just want to have a very basic, simple fix. Not allowing these to be stacked would be a simple fix, if only a temporary one.
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