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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4203	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:23:00 - [1] - Quote Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1914	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:23:00 - [2] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f**. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. bbbbbut... it was nerfed! Drop it like its hat*. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 750	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:24:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f*. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. Mehvi used that ** with CalAss Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
1pawn dust Algintal Core Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:25:00 - [4] - Quote CR has too much range and too much shield dmg!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 923	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:30:00 - [5] - Quote I always thought the CR was OP simply by its overuse in PC -- there's a reason virtually every competitive assault/logi player uses it. Yesterday, playing with it for the first time since I experimented with it upon introduction, I have confirmed this assumption. TBH, it reminds me of the Tac AR pre-nerf, only MUCH better in CQC. I'm not quite sure how it should be brought more in-line with other rifles, but it seems clear to me something should be done.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4814	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:36:00 - [6] - Quote It easily makes all other weapons look crappy. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2439	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:38:00 - [7] - Quote Prof. 3 ScR on assault ak.0 and I do better with my operation 4 RS-90. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8976	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:41:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f**. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4205	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:43:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! It physically hurts to use it, but it melts everything. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 486	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:44:00 - [10] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. As Amarr filth, I can see why would would need to! Gÿé Syeven 514 Application for CPM1

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2442	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:45:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! >calls people scum for using CR >when I saw Aero using it the other day >and you were using it on your logi for like a month ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8976	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:45:00 - [12] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f**. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! It physically hurts to use it, but it melts everything. Yeah it does..... I have the RS-90..... but on principle use the CRD-9 Shhhh Lorhak you might give away that I was parading around in a Gal Commando A-1 in the WB today to see what it looked like..... Kind of cool but no Amarr Heavy "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 928	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:46:00 - [13] - Quote I have actually been finding the CR less effective since the patch. I can feel that 15% nerf. I'm considering switching to ACR, which was nerfed less, as that feels better now IMO.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 290	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:49:00 - [14] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I have actually been finding the CR less effective since the patch. I can feel that 15% nerf. I'm considering switching to ACR, which was nerfed less, as that feels better now IMO. ascr rips thru shield and armor at longer ranges then cr Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2443	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:51:00 - [15] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I have actually been finding the CR less effective since the patch. I can feel that 15% nerf. I'm considering switching to ACR, which was nerfed less, as that feels better now IMO. ascr rips thru shield and armor at longer ranges then cr It doesn't do it at 8PG at proto, so whatever man. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4065	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:53:00 - [16] - Quote Finally someone sees this aside from me!!!! Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1914	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:54:00 - [17] - Quote Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle CPU: 43 gF PG: 4 kW Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 929	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:54:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! I welcome him with open arms. Combat rifle sucks compared to Scr, unless (naturally) you're fighting armor. If shields could tank moderately well the 95/115 wouldn't be as preferable. Currently shields can hit -maybe- 700, whereas armor hits 600 regularly, 800-1k being their ceiling. 5% loss against a tank with 40% less Hp? I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1267	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:56:00 - [19] - Quote The CR damage profile is vicious. The range it can pump out that sick DPS is also a problem. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1218	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:58:00 - [20] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. Dont have a problem with the Damage or ROF, it's a low damage high ROF close to med range weapon... But that crazy range on that weapon makes highly annoying... I've been shot at 70 m with that thing numerous times...

Master Smurf Nos Nothi 287	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote If you are going to nerf the CR then start buffing the hell out of Minmatar suits "Shine bright like a diamond"
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1220	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:06:00 - [22] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: If you are going to nerf the CR then start buffing the hell out of Minmatar suits No one is asking for a Nerf, the damage and ROF stays, the range should be slightly better than or equal to AR
Emperor1349 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 56	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:08:00 - [23] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Master Smurf wrote: If you are going to nerf the CR then start buffing the hell out of Minmatar suits No one is asking for a Nerf, the damage and ROF stays, the range should be slightly better than or equal to AR No the AR needs equal range. R.I.P Mag - SVER
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2443	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:13:00 - [24] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Why you may ask...well, because it's OP as f***. 95/110 damage profile is far too balanced, it easily tears through everything. Imo, it should be at least 80/120. You scum! I welcome him with open arms. Combat rifle sucks compared to Scr, unless (naturally) you're fighting armor. If shields could tank moderately well the 95/115 wouldn't be as preferable. Currently shields can hit -maybe- 700, whereas armor hits 600 regularly, 800-1k being their ceiling. 5% loss against a tank with 40% less Hp? ScR gets 25 shots before overheat at full Assault ak.0. This is about 1787 damage, or 2144 to shields and about 1430 to armour, which is just enough to kill most heavies, it's true. If you miss some of those shots you're stuck for about 5s 'reloading'. It is important to note that armour is the far more prevalent tanking type at the moment, and that armour buffers AE typically quite a bit larger than shield buffers (my old assault ak.0 with balanced base tank had 443 shields, where with three complex plates I had fully 30% more). CR has a clip of 67(?) at assault mk.0, which deals about 1989 damage per magazine or 2188 to armour and, to its weakness, shields, it deals 1889 damage, with a reload of 2.7s (which happens to be only marginally longer than the ScR's reload of 2.5s). True, you're not trying to overheat your ScR, but that still happens a lot. And even if you don't it's still wait of a few seconds for heat to reduce to levels where it's worth firing again. The ScR does have a longer range, but its being semi-auto makes it slightly harder to leverage DPS over that range, where (at least I've found) the bursts of the CR at a lower rate of button presses means it's easier to keep on target. I tend to do more consistent damage at range with the CR. I don't think there's any situation where the ScR is superior to the CR, except close CQC. And in most situations it's a distant second to the CR's ease of use and forgiving firing method. No, charge shots are irrelevant here. They stack your alpha DPS but dramatically cut your damage-per-overheat. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7787	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:19:00 - [25] - Quote There are more anti armor damage types than anti shield. Having two 80/120 damage types would be a bad move Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 287	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:20:00 - [26] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Master Smurf wrote: If you are going to nerf the CR then start buffing the hell out of Minmatar suits No one is asking for a Nerf, the damage and ROF stays, the range should be slightly better than or equal to AR This isnt the only thread. - And the range is already less than the other two rifles Maybe a sharper drop in fall off damage - That would also have to be done with the AR (which should have higher damage but severe fall off) Many people want the CR to be equal or less than the AR - If you are running Minmatar fits that diminishes their effectiveness a great deal as speed differential is minimal. "Shine bright like a diamond"
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 700	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:22:00 - [27] - Quote I think the CR is more powerful now than it was before. Running with a whole team of friends yesterday and we are all scratching our heads asking if there was some kind of CR bug out there. 70% of the people I was running into were using it. Scouts, Assaults, Logi's and Commandos. Boundless and RS-90's just scrolling down the kill feed. I mean even non-Minmatar Commandos and Assaults were using it even though they get no bonus to damage or anything with it. It makes no sense. I was running Amarr Assault with a fair balance of Shields and Armor. I was getting melted in 2 Burst even though I had 700 HP. It was pretty sad.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5289	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:26:00 - [28] - Quote it's that 'slow down effect' that it has, I never noticed cause I died before it really applied before but now this and the HMG are making for most my deaths. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1918	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:36:00 - [29] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: it's that 'slow down effect' that it has, I never noticed cause I died before it really applied before but now this and the HMG are making for most my deaths. ^ This. You wouldnt be complaining if there was no slow down effect when hit. CR and HMG are 'snare' weapons. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4209	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:06:00 - [30] - Quote I'm not saying nerf it per se, but I wonder if it is on CCP's radar. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.



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