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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:41:00 -
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Because shield hardeners are getting nerbatted from 60% down to 40% this means that swarm launcher damage might stick. (cause the threshhold for shield recharge was too high). a swarm launcher missile does 220HP damage per hit, against a non hardened shield tank that would be 176HP and with a hardener on (before nerf) it is only 70,4HP per missile. Now with the nerfed shield hardener (only 40% reduction instead of 60%) that is 105,6 HP per missile.
So the new damage output for each swarm launcher (before nerf):
-militia/std- 281,6HP
-advanced- 352 HP
-proto- 422,4
And now the values after the shield hardener nerf:
-militia/std- 422,4
-advanced- 528
-proto- 633,6HP
So as you see these values are against a shield tank that is running his hardener. But did you aswell realised that the damage output for swarms has beeing increased by a whooping 50%? This is far more then damage mods ever provided. Ofcourse you can enhance this even further with damage mods. But the most important thing is that the damage per missile is now above 100HP which means that the shield recharge threshhold will break. The only way to keep your shields recharging is when you run 2 hardeners at once not just one at a time.
With the new scouts and cloaks i think the AV balance might be achieved. You can have a proto swarm,cloak and sidearm etc. which means the AV guy decides when to engage a tank not the other way around. And with just 2 tanks allowed to ambush we might see much more enjoyable gameplay. Well have to see if this will work out.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1903
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:44:00 -
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You were never supposed to regen tank swarms anyway. Stop being silly. 
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3094
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:23:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:You were never supposed to regen tank swarms anyway. Stop being silly. /me polishes off proto plasma cannon.
Yes you were able to
Swarms work by 1 missile hitting after each other
If that 1 missile cannot break the shield regen then the regen will never stop because each missile is hitting on its own
TBH in EVE in my shield ship no matter what ship it is, it will always regen passively even if its taking damage so frankly it should be the same in DUST and in EVE there is no stop to the regen
Intelligence is OP
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1952
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:26:00 -
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What about armor tanks?
Team carry Prof. IV
I am a carried scrub!
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
412
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:29:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:You were never supposed to regen tank swarms anyway. Stop being silly. /me polishes off proto plasma cannon. Yes you were able to Swarms work by 1 missile hitting after each other If that 1 missile cannot break the shield regen then the regen will never stop because each missile is hitting on its own TBH in EVE in my shield ship no matter what ship it is, it will always regen passively even if its taking damage so frankly it should be the same in DUST and in EVE there is no stop to the regen
Isn't there a video demonstrating this? I feel like someone broke this down very well, very recently. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:30:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:What about armor tanks?
Idk, shield tanks will be super U.P. is they cant regen at ALL from swarms, as armor will regen through swarms, not out rep the swarms I mean just regen
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
1757
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:33:00 -
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Shield regen threshold is 102 hp
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2444
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:37:00 -
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So even hardened you break my regen without damage mods?
Now that's ridiculous.
All it takes to kill a shield tank, then, is a forge gun for DPS and an MLT swarm to make sure his regen doesn't start again. Great, I'm running two (maybe three) hardeners for the foreseeable future.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
727
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:50:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:So even hardened you break my regen without damage mods?
Now that's ridiculous.
All it takes to kill a shield tank, then, is a forge gun for DPS and an MLT swarm to make sure his regen doesn't start again. Great, I'm running two (maybe three) hardeners for the foreseeable future.
Yep shield vehicles will be once again severely underpowered...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
256
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:55:00 -
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good thing the sheild bbooster will be useful. its meant to boost the sheilds to help with the regen.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
821
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:58:00 -
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I dunno,
I have the week off and I played all day yesterday and the day before.
I still see an awful lot of tanks.
The team with the most tanks still seems to win a lot.
Munch
Minmatar Patriot (Level 7)
Dedicated Sniper
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Sarducar Kahn
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:59:00 -
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Have they fixed the shield booster so it always activates? If not them being more useful is all lies.
Don't drink 'n drive kids. (That's my job)
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
149
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:01:00 -
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Swarms are still crap. 6 volleys isnt enough to kill a tank |
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