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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5252
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Posted - 2014.03.27 05:59:00 -
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Entertaining, extremely so. 
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
2120
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:01:00 -
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For the first time since 1.2, I was called a scrub for using the Commando. (G-I, none the less.)
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara, Uprising 1.7
Long live the Commandos!
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Eric Del Carlo
Inner.Hell
79
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:03:00 -
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I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know
GÖàa+¦GÖò Scout Shotgunner GÖòa++GÖà
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5252
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:06:00 -
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Eric Del Carlo wrote:I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know
I've been killed more than a few times in my cloaky scout, they have their problems but they're not the 'I win' button some are making it out to be that's for sure.
Me thinkz dem EZ mode slayers haz been relying on their active scanners too long.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Eric Del Carlo
Inner.Hell
79
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:11:00 -
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Aside from cloaks, I do advocate that something has to be done about brick tanked scouts that put nothing but armor plates on their scout. One can only hope that CCP would be logical enough to just add a penalty to plates for scouts, and not tamper with any of its stats. As for me, I NEVER run plates on my Gallente Scout, it's all about biotic and dampening mods 
GÖàa+¦GÖò Scout Shotgunner GÖòa++GÖà
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6229
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:13:00 -
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As an MD Scout, the cloaks don't really bother me. Though it is funny blowing up idiots who think I can't see them. It's like a fat guy hiding behind a thin tree and acting as if the tree covers them.
The main problem, is the fact that Scouts can achieve a huge eHP celing while still being faster and having a cloak. There's not really a point in running Assault suits when their vastly out-performed by Scouts.
But by all means, please continue tourists. My MD requires nourishment.
The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers"
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5270
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:As an MD Scout, the cloaks don't really bother me. Though it is funny blowing up idiots who think I can't see them. It's like a fat guy hiding behind a thin tree and acting as if the tree covers them.
The main problem, is the fact that Scouts can achieve a huge eHP celing while still being faster and having a cloak. There's not really a point in running Assault suits when their vastly out-performed by Scouts.
But by all means, please continue tourists. My MD requires nourishment.
indeed
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2431
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:04:00 -
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Not the scouts that bother me.
I don't like the light-assaults.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Eric Del Carlo
Inner.Hell
80
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:08:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Not the scouts that bother me.
I don't like the light-assaults.
I think it's safe to assume that us true scouts don't consider these imposters as one of us
But yes they really are giving scouts a bad rep at the moment, and something must be done about it (mentioned several times around corp mates and on the forums that adding a simple but severe penalty to stacking armor for scouts should end this noobery)
GÖàa+¦GÖò Scout Shotgunner GÖòa++GÖà
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2431
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:08:00 -
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Eric Del Carlo wrote:I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know
I think the problem a lot of people are having with the cloaks is the kind of campy play style they advocate what with their being totally invisible when motionless.
I'm not suggesting that this is the way that most use it, just that this actually negates the shimmer and basically gets free kills.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Eric Del Carlo
Inner.Hell
81
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:22:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Eric Del Carlo wrote:I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know I think the problem a lot of people are having with the cloaks is the kind of campy play style they advocate what with their being totally invisible when motionless. I'm not suggesting that this is the way that most use it, just that this actually negates the shimmer and basically gets free kills.
Usually spraying your weapon around the area you think there might be a scout lurking does the trick. I think a good idea is for flux nades to create more distortion from the cloaked enemy giving away his position. I think that will encourage cloaked scouts to never camp an area, although me and other scouts that I play with NEVER stand still, especially with the possibility that there's a Caldari scout with precision enhancers on the enemy team that would spot us.
Aside from that, cloaks at the moment do have a bug where you can remain invisible even when firing your weapon, which I'm positive has been confirmed by CCP as being unintentional, and will be fixed in the upcoming hotfix.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5271
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:28:00 -
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whoops
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
911
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:29:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Eric Del Carlo wrote:I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know I think the problem a lot of people are having with the cloaks is the kind of campy play style they advocate what with their being totally invisible when motionless. I'm not suggesting that this is the way that most use it, just that this actually negates the shimmer and basically gets free kills.
it promotes camping?... im always on the move when i use cloaks and if i ever stay still its because i am hiding from people about to kill me or someone is suspicious of me cloaking around them.
all the true scouts should declare war on the "tourist" scouts aka FOTM scouts IMO
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1671
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:33:00 -
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Eric Del Carlo wrote:Aside from cloaks, I do advocate that something has to be done about brick tanked scouts that put nothing but armor plates on their scout. One can only hope that CCP would be logical enough to just add a penalty to plates for scouts, and not tamper with any of its stats. As for me, I NEVER run plates on my Gallente Scout, it's all about biotic and dampening mods
why does the scout need this crap? People don't look around or use many scanners. I literally walk amongst my enemies killing them.
Who wants some?
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
430
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:34:00 -
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You've got to admit.
The fact that it promotes camping makes them low risk high reward.
But honestly, people QQing about that aren't understanding that this is a realistic concept that if you are completely camouflaged and time your kill carefully, you are rewarded.
If you can't ward a cloaked scout off a hack panel before you attempt the hack, you either need squadmates with you or you're simply a scrub. This is coming from a sentinel ak.0 who almost died learning this mistake.
You people who have an ego trip from proto stomping have a harsh reality waiting in life after you turn off the PS3.
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
468
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:36:00 -
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To be fair, some complaints MAY be legit. Have to keep an open mind when shifting through all the **** called the forums.
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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Protected Void
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
259
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:40:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Eric Del Carlo wrote:I mostly see complaints about the cloak, they're damn easy to see with the shimmer. I think it's time for people to realize there's something called situational awareness... novel concept I know I think the problem a lot of people are having with the cloaks is the kind of campy play style they advocate what with their being totally invisible when motionless. I'm not suggesting that this is the way that most use it, just that this actually negates the shimmer and basically gets free kills.
But most of the time you're not totally invisible even when standing still. I spot cloaked, stationary scouts all the time, trying to hide in plain sight or skulking around in corners. Granted, I get help from my scan precision, so I often know where to look. I do spot them regularly when their dampening is good enough to evade my passive scanner, too. There's a definite "disturbance" to the background when there's a cloaked scout in front of it.
The only setting I'll admit a cloaked scout is as good as totally invisible in, is when he/she is in front of a background that has bright colors, preferrably one with a bit of a blue tint. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
836
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:04:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Entertaining, extremely so.
Yeah it was but all I saw yesterday was heavies and tanks (way more heavies...) So I guess the FOTM chasers have realized that the cloak is indeed at best situational and in most cases utter crap.
The the blur and outshine is way to prominent to be useful so the cloak is sadly mostly useful for camping CRU's doorways etc.
By now you are more invisible if you don't use the cloak...and least it seems that way.
So I guess most have gone back to what they can best stack eHP like crazy and use light weapons on heavies. Where I saw mainly scouts the first day I now only see heavies... |
Orin the Freak
The Solecism of Limitation
738
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:07:00 -
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Personally, I don't mind that much. Yes, the scout+shotty is pretty damn powerful, but have you seen the heavies lately?
I say instead of nerfing everything, buff things to match.
The only thing left kinda gimped is Assaults from what I hear. They should give assault suits some love when they do the final pass on slot layouts for medium suits. |
Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
315
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:17:00 -
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I think the tourist scouts are already starting to fizzle out some. True scouting is hard and the cloak is not OP like some players thought they would be.
The bricked tanked scouts will probably linger a while longer but my hunter cal scout chews them up quick. At some point most of these players will realize brick tanking a scout is not always a smart idea.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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