I'm not sure on a SL but on my forge gun (Ish Ass.) its takes 2 shots then you are reward with 75 WP...so I think you have to reach a certain amount of damage before being rewarded there are times when after the initial 75 wp I don't get rewarded anything else. I think it may be a bit buggy but I haven't been running it a lot cause I haven't seen many opportunities to use it. Ill try to run it some more and get some more info.

don't forget that forge gun is bugged right now. 3/4 of your shots will deal damage.

don't forget that forge gun is bugged right now. 3/4 of your shots will deal damage.

ya i'm fine with my Minmatar Sentinel right now, but right now I'm trying to find a role for my minmatar commando suit. It sucks on the front line and AV as we can tell right now just isn't going to work with it.

You can try the Combat Rifle/ Mass Combo that thing is scary..eat them with the combat and mass to finish them off. My jolly marshmallow ass was no match for it.

Plasma cannons take 2 shots on a HAV to gain WP or one on a LAV and appears to be limitless. I plasma cannoned a LAV got 75 points got shot at so turned to deal with that, killed the guy and the LAV had regen'd to full shields so I plasma cannoned it again and got another 75 WP had to kill another guy then hit the LAV again and got another 75WP.

Also 75 WP for fluxing a LAV hitting it with 1 AV nade 0WP lol.

Shields don't give you WPs. Only armour.

Tested against a Python with my Ishukone FG. Only got WP when I did armour damage. Meaning you have to destroy a shield-based vehicles entire tank before you can even get anything.

Meanwhile, with armour tankers, all you have to do is get through their paltry shields to expose their armour...

You take a guess at which one is easier.

Shields don't give you WPs. Only armour.

Tested against a Python with my Ishukone FG. Only got WP when I did armour damage. Meaning you have to destroy a shield-based vehicles entire tank before you can even get anything.

Meanwhile, with armour tankers, all you have to do is get through their paltry shields to expose their armour...

You take a guess at which one is easier.

You must damage armor. If you damage shields, the game tells you, "f**k off, you're not getting any points."

You must damage armor. If you damage shields, the game tells you, "f**k off, you're not getting any points."

You must damage armor. If you damage shields, the game tells you, "f**k off, you're not getting any points."

I'm not sure on a SL but on my forge gun (Ish Ass.) its takes 2 shots then you are reward with 75 WP...so I think you have to reach a certain amount of damage before being rewarded there are times when after the initial 75 wp I don't get rewarded anything else. I think it may be a bit buggy but I haven't been running it a lot cause I haven't seen many opportunities to use it. Ill try to run it some more and get some more info.

I'm not sure on a SL but on my forge gun (Ish Ass.) its takes 2 shots then you are reward with 75 WP...so I think you have to reach a certain amount of damage before being rewarded there are times when after the initial 75 wp I don't get rewarded anything else. I think it may be a bit buggy but I haven't been running it a lot cause I haven't seen many opportunities to use it. Ill try to run it some more and get some more info.

This is a good thread, begun by a good question.

The system is not buggy, as far as I am aware. Apparently this issue of vehicular damage was a LATENT issue, that became a BLATANT problem when Friendly-fire components were switched on in FW matches.
I'm glad to see it return to the burnzone....
But I'm also aware we still have players among us who are like Marajuana Growers,,,eager to grab hold of any aspect of the environment they can farm money from. (I'm sure there's a minority of mercs out there who are still looking to improve their leaderboard/ WP/ or ISK just for "SCRATCHTING" objects on the map instead of DEFEATING them).
I'd like to think CCP is aware of the "farming attempt" too, and that's why they deliberately profiled the new "vehicle damage" component.

First-hand, I charged a enemy Baloch with two AV grenades, while a lone red was manning the Baloch's turret, and the Baloch was parked beside a Red-hacked Blaster Installation.
Umm, yes of course I'm going to get killed (my intention is to shooo the red away or cripple him, so my blue buddy with me can reach and hack the blaster turret back to Blue).

Result:

The 1st AV grenade exploded between Baloch and Blaster Installation; NO message on the screen, no WP credit anywhere.
I agree with this. My grenade has probably been absorbed partly by the Installation's shields; whatever blast force remained would have been barely enough to drop the Baloch's shield; so I haven't even scratched the Baloch's chasis yet---and I don't believe I ought to get "vehicle-damage" credit for 'failing to penetrate somenone's shield energy'.

The 2nd AV grenade exploded in front of the Baloch (definitely too soon for the shield to build back, so I'm doing chasis-damage with this blast). The Baloch was knocked nose-up and shoved backward; the message comes on screen, 75 WP Baloch-damage.
I agree with this too. Even if my first grenade may have been enough to fully collapse the Blaoch's shields and "SCRATCH" the armour of the Baloch. I believe I should only get credit for putting injury on the vehicle BEYOND WHAT SIMPLE SIDEARM FIRE might acheive. And it MUST be on the PHYSICAL skin (armour) of the vehicle; causing someone's shield-generator to have to switch on again isn't "damaging" the generator--it's doing it's job just fine and hasn't been harmed.


Having that "threshold" before you start getting any credit for "damage", may also be a great safeguard for accidental Friendly-fire to Blue vehicles (FW matches). If CELESTA should mistakenly unleash a Railgun Installation round on a speedy Blue HAV, I may collapse its shield and put a dent in the armour, but MAYBE not enough to trigger a "vehicle damage" meter.