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Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 274	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:10:00 - [1] - Quote I got home from work eager to play the new game....and lo and behold, I walked in on a hurricane. I'm not going to write a long post about it...but 10 matches, 10 losses, barely alive more than 4-5 seconds for 70% of the match....the TTK is still wrong. Shotguns kill you with one shot, the ion pistol kills you with one shot and you guys have a bug in the cloak. If you hack a turret or a CRU or an objective and you start hacking while you're cloaked, when you're done hacking you can switch to your weapon and still stay cloaked. Shotgunners are doing this and standing totally still, totally invisible and killing with 1 shot. A game where anything kills you in ONE shot = TTK is bad. I'm just not sure how much more of this Dust 514 unbalanced TTK I can take. The TTK and the game in 1.6 were good....why don't you leave things how they are for 1.8, bring back the balance parameters of 1.6? I bet that would actually beef the game up and make it good again.
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:33:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: the ion pistol kills you with one shot You sure about that one bud? Charge shot on a super squish suit maybe, but you had to walk into them under 20m and not have the shot go wide.
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:22:00 - [3] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: I got home from work eager to play the new game....and lo and behold, I walked in on a hurricane. I'm not going to write a long post about it...but 10 matches, 10 losses, barely alive more than 4-5 seconds for 70% of the match....the TTK is still wrong. Shotguns kill you with one shot, the ion pistol kills you with one shot and you guys have a bug in the cloak. If you hack a turret or a CRU or an objective and you start hacking while you're cloaked, when you're done hacking you can switch to your weapon and still stay cloaked. Shotgunners are doing this and standing totally still, totally invisible and killing with 1 shot. A game where anything kills you in ONE shot = TTK is bad. I'm just not sure how much more of this Dust 514 unbalanced TTK I can take. The TTK and the game in 1.6 were good....why don't you leave things how they are for 1.8, bring back the balance parameters of 1.6? I bet that would actually beef the game up and make it good again. The issuehere is that you can switch to a weapon and remain cloaked if I read you correctly not that its a one shot weapon from point blank range. Can they do this.?.. someone in another thread says not. And if you let someone walk upto you and one shot you while they were visible you asked for it dude. Not general TTK. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 171	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:37:00 - [4] - Quote So its a bug. Report it, and hope they fix it soon. It's not a problem with TTK, its a problem with cloaks NOT working as intended.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1349	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:38:00 - [5] - Quote No it works. Lord Brew was attacking me in a game a couple of hours ago while cloaked. I could see his outline because he was moving but he was still able to stab me with his stabby stabby knives. Fun > Realism
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:00:00 - [6] - Quote Dustbunny Durrr wrote: So its a bug. Report it, and hope they fix it soon. It's not a problem with TTK, its a problem with cloaks NOT working as intended. This man is right.. crying on the forum is not a big report Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 843	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:25:00 - [7] - Quote Dustbunny Durrr wrote: So its a bug. Report it, and hope they fix it soon. It's not a problem with TTK, its a problem with cloaks NOT working as intended. It has been reported, day one of the patch so expect it to stay broken till 1.9. LogiGod earns his pips
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 251	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:50:00 - [8] - Quote [quote=Michael Epic] Shotgunners are doing this and standing totally still, totally invisible and killing with 1 shot. [quote] i stand still because it gives off no shimemr so you dont see me then when you pass by i decloak/close distance pull my shottys trigger, kill you get 50wp then re activate cloak. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:32:00 - [9] - Quote Decloaking needs a delay before firing, just like EVE has. Because the visual takes a second to animate you don't need to worry about which way they are facing when you decloak, you still kill them before the cloak actually fades. Add a delay and it becomes about skill in getting them to turn around.
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 649	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:44:00 - [10] - Quote they also need a reduction in duration Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 544	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:03:00 - [11] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Decloaking needs a delay before firing, just like EVE has. Because the visual takes a second to animate you don't need to worry about which way they are facing when you decloak, you still kill them before the cloak actually fades. Add a delay and it becomes about skill in getting them to turn around. eve also has a much higher ttk a delay in a short ttk is much more dramatic than delay in a long ttk module poll stuff for alts
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1784	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:14:00 - [12] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: A game where anything kills you in ONE shot = TTK is bad. This is incorrect. Shotguns, sniper rifles, forge guns, etc. are intended to kill you with one shot, or otherwise do massive damage with one shot. They have various crippling limitations to balance this. TTK isn't perfect yet (HMGs needed to be touched along with other rapid-fire weapons) but it's a lot better than it was. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
sasha reaper Nyain Chan 4	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:27:00 - [13] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: I got home from work eager to play the new game....and lo and behold, I walked in on a hurricane. I'm not going to write a long post about it...but 10 matches, 10 losses, barely alive more than 4-5 seconds for 70% of the match....the TTK is still wrong. Shotguns kill you with one shot, the ion pistol kills you with one shot and you guys have a bug in the cloak. If you hack a turret or a CRU or an objective and you start hacking while you're cloaked, when you're done hacking you can switch to your weapon and still stay cloaked. Shotgunners are doing this and standing totally still, totally invisible and killing with 1 shot. A game where anything kills you in ONE shot = TTK is bad. I'm just not sure how much more of this Dust 514 unbalanced TTK I can take. The TTK and the game in 1.6 were good....why don't you leave things how they are for 1.8, bring back the balance parameters of 1.6? I bet that would actually beef the game up and make it good again. i agree, 1.6 was great compared to this circus
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:29:00 - [14] - Quote Even 1.7 was better than this. I'm going to go with a corp mates idea and only run ambush. Now that tanks are limited there it is the only place to play without tank spam and enforced 100% participation by the blueberries. Reliance on them to actually play in a skirmish has ruined all my good will. Fun > Realism
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 175	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:49:00 - [15] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Decloaking needs a delay before firing, just like EVE has. Because the visual takes a second to animate you don't need to worry about which way they are facing when you decloak, you still kill them before the cloak actually fades. Add a delay and it becomes about skill in getting them to turn around. I agree that a slight delay is necessary, perhaps 1-1.5 seconds, so that you cannot simply uncloak "alpha OHK" someone who is lookinag in your direction. If their back is turned however,as Nevyn mentioned, this adds skill in the "sneaking up on your prey", as the delay should then not matter.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 737	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:26:00 - [16] - Quote how to fix cloak... make it to where picked up easier through the means of passive scans and such it should not lower your scan profile. with that in place id also suggest lowering the cpu/pg of it at least to where a mlt scout can put it on...as for scanning i dont mean big red chevron glowing over your head i mean da radar/minimap.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:54:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: The TTK and the game in 1.6 were good....why don't you leave things how they are for 1.8, bring back the balance parameters of 1.6? I bet that would actually beef the game up and make it good again. 1.6 is when they broke the TTK, it wasn't good at all. The only viable weapons were AR, ScR and the SMG because they had been balanced around broken hit detection. 1.6 mostly fixed hit detection, and these weapons became godly overnight. Best PvE idea ever!
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 148	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:58:00 - [18] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: I got home from work eager to play the new game....and lo and behold, I walked in on a hurricane. I'm not going to write a long post about it...but 10 matches, 10 losses, barely alive more than 4-5 seconds for 70% of the match....the TTK is still wrong. Shotguns kill you with one shot, the ion pistol kills you with one shot and you guys have a bug in the cloak. If you hack a turret or a CRU or an objective and you start hacking while you're cloaked, when you're done hacking you can switch to your weapon and still stay cloaked. Shotgunners are doing this and standing totally still, totally invisible and killing with 1 shot. A game where anything kills you in ONE shot = TTK is bad. I'm just not sure how much more of this Dust 514 unbalanced TTK I can take. The TTK and the game in 1.6 were good....why don't you leave things how they are for 1.8, bring back the balance parameters of 1.6? I bet that would actually beef the game up and make it good again. the ion pistol only does so ifits on a soft target, fully charged. the user only gets one shot too, so thats not much of a problem. the shotgun is plasma, so it tears through shields, especially with its already high damage. Every suit Gk.0 <3 Gallente Federation Patriot


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