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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:37:00 -
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Save for the angle. I feel like part of the reason for the long scan duration was so that the player could use it in a sweeping motion. That was abused to hell and back, obviously, but without it the active scanner seems to have a very narrow angle; with the widest angles (90 degrees) having a very long cool-down time.
If we're sticking with the 'snapshot' method (which is good), I feel the angle needs to be a bit wider to compliment the longer cooldown. Otherwise we're going to need a new method for Specialists to utilize TacNet and dropsuit scanning won't cut it as it doesn't offer anything for the squad/team.
Vehicle Scanners on the other hand now are completely overshadowing Active Scanners and I have a feeling this will continue to be the case until Active Scanners are a bit more viable.
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
693
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:49:00 -
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I 100% agree with this assessment. I love how Active Scanners now work and I skilled into Gallente Logistics to provide that asset to my team. I have no issue with sensitivity, visibility duration or cool-down times. All very good and balanced. But the angle needs to be widened a bit because I do not feel we get a viable snapshot based on the level of skill required to max out this function.
I would be willing to sacrifice some range to get a wider angle. Nothing too crazy but in my opinion 90 degrees should be the standard at say, 80 meters. As it stands right now, I feel pretty useless in-game, especially when vehicles trump anything I can bring to the table. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:56:00 -
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Was literally just going to make this thread. +1 to you.
The wider angle would make it actually possible to see if there are enemies in a certain area, rather than a small portion of it. It would also function as a strategic counter to cloaks. For those who haven't run into this mechanic, the active scan makes you glow while cloaked, even when holding still. |
Samantha Hunyz
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:58:00 -
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why not equip 2 scanners at once on your gal logi? Im sure the other racial logis are doing the same with their specialized equipment to get the most of their bonus. I know that it reduces the varity of what you can carry, but it would be a huge advantage to situational awareness that you are seeking.
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Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:59:00 -
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I have to agree as well. Our corp now uses a scanning LAV to pinpoint orbitals rather than an active scanner, even if we know the general direction of where they are, because of the overly narrow scan width.
90 degrees does seem like a much better standard than the current 60. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:59:00 -
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Samantha Hunyz wrote:why not equip 2 scanners at once on your gal logi? Im sure the other racial logis are doing the same with their specialized equipment to get the most of their bonus. I know that it reduces the varity of what you can carry, but it would be a huge advantage to situational awareness that you are seeking.
It would definitely work as a makeshift fix until CCP revisits active scanners...If they ever do.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:06:00 -
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If they increased the angle I would go back into level 5 Gal Logi. I really like the rebalance they did with the scan, whip it out scan, put it back, know when it's ready. I feel though that alone was enough to balance it out. I'm not complaining though, it's very still useful.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5353
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:09:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:If they increased the angle I would go back into level 5 Gal Logi. I really like the rebalance they did with the scan, whip it out scan, put it back, know when it's ready. I feel though that alone was enough to balance it out. I'm not complaining though, it's very still useful.
Right right. The notifier in the bottom left is amazingly handy as well and a very welcome addition :3
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
695
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:07:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:If they increased the angle I would go back into level 5 Gal Logi. I really like the rebalance they did with the scan, whip it out scan, put it back, know when it's ready. I feel though that alone was enough to balance it out. I'm not complaining though, it's very still useful. Right right. The notifier in the bottom left is amazingly handy as well and a very welcome addition :3
I concur. That is one of the best new features.
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Bettie Boop 2100190003
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.26 22:50:00 -
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Even the CreoDron Flux Active Scanner (90 degree 200m range proto scanner) doesn't scan 90 degrees, it only scans maybe 20-60 degrees. The scanner says 90 degrees, but doesn't give an accurate snapshot of the advertised 90 degrees.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
573
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Posted - 2014.03.27 03:38:00 -
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then cloaks need to have they're cooldown increased. advanced should last 60 seconds and take 90 to cooldown.
Or reverse scanners to have shorter cool downs.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5366
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Posted - 2014.03.27 07:14:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:then cloaks need to have they're cooldown increased. advanced should last 60 seconds and take 90 to cooldown.
Or reverse scanners to have shorter cool downs.
Nah. Cooldowns are a'ight in my opinion. Lowering them would put us right back to "always being scanned every day ever" I feel.
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Bettie Boop 2100190003
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:then cloaks need to have they're cooldown increased. advanced should last 60 seconds and take 90 to cooldown.
Or reverse scanners to have shorter cool downs. Nah. Cooldowns are a'ight in my opinion. Lowering them would put us right back to "always being scanned every day ever" I feel.
You think they are alright even though they don't give the scan angles they advertise?
I agree about the cool down time, they are fine as is.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:17:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:then cloaks need to have they're cooldown increased. advanced should last 60 seconds and take 90 to cooldown.
Or reverse scanners to have shorter cool downs. Nah. Cooldowns are a'ight in my opinion. Lowering them would put us right back to "always being scanned every day ever" I feel. You think they are alright even though they don't give the scan angles they advertise? I agree about the cool down time, they are fine as is.
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Bettie Boop 2100190003
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:33:00 -
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So CCP SoonGäó....
I just wish things in game advertised what they were. Not in the game yet, dont care, if they said it was supposed to be and isnt, dont care. If only things functioned as advertised I can put up with a lot of bugs, content that was supposed to be here but isnt, ect, just (I know its not "JUST" that easy but its better than pissing off hundreds? of users) change the text on an item if you change the functionality.
Aeon I completely agree with you and were on the same page. We as a community just need to be speak up in a constructive manor so they know what the issues are and they can be changed as SoonGäó as CCP can manage it.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4755
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:47:00 -
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Instead of being a short duration and narrow angle, they should gain back the old angle they had, but be a LITERAL snapshot.
NO scan duration. Instantaneous the moment you hit the button THIS ARC AND ONLY THIS ARC lights up and stays lit for whatever the Scanner's visibility duration is. |
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