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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:32:00 -
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I've seen 2 amarr and 2 min as well as a single Gal. 0 Cal so far...
I think since scouts can now do a better job at assaulting most have migrated.
Assault Pros: -High base stats -Semi-weapon orientated bonuses
Assault Cons: -Easily scanned -lose speed drastically in exchange for tank.
Scout Pros: -Marginal tank loss in exchange for higher speed/stamina and stealth -2 EQ slots -High slot count. -Can fit cloak easier -Can improve tank with only marginal speed loss while still being unscannable. -Generally more appealing than assaults.
Scout Cons: -Lower base tank (?)
The last one is confusing because they only have a marginally smaller tank compared to logistics medium frame suits (which is ridiculous) and yet get so many more bonuses to make up for it.
I game over like a boss.
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Mat Auty
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
51
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:34:00 -
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i rolled proto mini logi and assualt kinda wishing i hadnt tho
Was a CEO once now i just hang around like a bad smell
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4783
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:37:00 -
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Assaults don't get "drastically" reduced speeds. It's more like marginally reduced speed. If you go by percentage reduced, scout loses more speed when tanking than a medium does.
Assaults also have 7 slots, one more than scout.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
594
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:40:00 -
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Mat Auty wrote:i rolled proto mini logi and assualt kinda wishing i hadnt tho I went Pro Min logi too.
It think it's stupid that in 1.8 i can't have a sidearm slot,yet scouts get buffed to these insane levels and get to keep theirs.
I game over like a boss.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
594
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:41:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Assaults don't get "drastically" reduced speeds. It's more like marginally reduced speed. If you go by percentage reduced, scout loses more speed when tanking than a medium does.
Assaults also have 7 slots, one more than scout. Scouts can easily fit cloaks,and come PRE dampened.
So there is your one slot.
I game over like a boss.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
629
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:41:00 -
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Not surprised, and annoyed.
- knew Cal/Gal were going to be unicorns
- Considering all the noise the Amarrians made and still didn't spec into the suit. (I don't feel that this is true atm, since it's too early to see who spec'd into what but it the thought running around in the back of my head)
Mad Bomber - 50% less profile
Return dumbfire to Swarms
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:43:00 -
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I seen one .. ONE all day and I have played at least 20 games between my main and my MIMI alt .
Haven't you herd that the scouts are the new assaults ... woops , you already wrote about that .
The old bonuses in a mix with the old Logi bonuses along with an depleted shield increase and prob the two equipment slots that were given to the scouts ( with cloaks you can't fit anything unless your core is maxed out and it's a prototype scout ) would have made assaults actual assaults .
No one wan't to spend SP's on a useless role but people will be quick to tell you to " live with your own decision ", so wasting SP's should be no problem .
Oh the double standards .
All I see is prototype scouts , heavies and commando's .
Think I seen a few prototype logi's .
Working as planned CCP.
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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KGB Sleep
901
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:44:00 -
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Saw a Gallente Assault gk.0 and a Caldari Assault ck.0, I only played 2 matches.
Because beer, that's why.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
619
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:46:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Assaults don't get "drastically" reduced speeds. It's more like marginally reduced speed. If you go by percentage reduced, scout loses more speed when tanking than a medium does.
Assaults also have 7 slots, one more than scout.
Unless you are the amarr.
Actually the OP is 100% on the head with the amarr assault vs the amarr scout right now.
The assault has: More eHP less fitting required from light weapons
The scout has: More stamina/regen Faster more EQ slots
They both have the same amount of slots.
See if the amarr assault had a working bonus it might be worth it, but it doesn't right now so ...... I can't believe I am going to say this
amarr scout >> amarr assault (for now)
Jesus that's insane. The amarr assault is 1 bonus away from being worse than the worst scout.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4783
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:47:00 -
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Meee One wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Assaults don't get "drastically" reduced speeds. It's more like marginally reduced speed. If you go by percentage reduced, scout loses more speed when tanking than a medium does.
Assaults also have 7 slots, one more than scout. Scouts can easily fit cloaks,and come PRE dampened. So there is your one slot. Cloaks aren't that big of a game changer. Hell my scout not gunna run one. I'll give you the pre dampening though. That is nice. But you can always just put a dampener on an assault.
The only suit that's kinda OP is the gallente scout. It has too many advantages.
But, if you ask me, it's all good. Basically no suit this patch is "bad" except for maybe commandos. They're meh. But that's good. You can't say the assaults suits are bad. You might say they are slightly worse but definitely not bad.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:52:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Meee One wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Assaults don't get "drastically" reduced speeds. It's more like marginally reduced speed. If you go by percentage reduced, scout loses more speed when tanking than a medium does.
Assaults also have 7 slots, one more than scout. Scouts can easily fit cloaks,and come PRE dampened. So there is your one slot. Cloaks aren't that big of a game changer. Hell my scout not gunna run one. I'll give you the pre dampening though. That is nice. But you can always just put a dampener on an assault. The only suit that's kinda OP is the gallente scout. It has too many advantages. But, if you ask me, it's all good. Basically no suit this patch is "bad" except for maybe commandos. They're meh. But that's good. You can't say the assaults suits are bad. You might say they are slightly worse but definitely not bad.
Gal scout is not much different from cal (shield extenders vs ferroscales *hint* *hint*). The amarr bonus is just bad. Lets hope they buff it to a higher % soon!
Drop it like its hat.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:54:00 -
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Two guys in my corp speced assault (one amarr, other one minmatar), but they are kind of maining logis I think. And they have a lot of SP.
Drop it like its hat.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2366
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:07:00 -
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I did both Amarr mediums.
I'm using CR until hp tank balance changes.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
303
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:13:00 -
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Mat Auty wrote:i rolled proto mini logi and assualt kinda wishing i hadnt tho
5 high slots tho
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
907
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:19:00 -
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I've found nothing but proto, along with maybe 10-12 assaults.
Sadly enough they're fitting cloaks at advanced tier, how i have no goddamn clue.
Also- as per 1.7(new rifles) we saw ridiculous amounts of Combat rifles and Rail Rifles on day 1, now they're more evened out. Expect the same to happen when something new comes in.
Imagine when MTaC's come out- Mechwarrior 514. MAv's- proto buss ride 514
Jets- Ace Combat 514
See the gist? When scramblers first came out they were UP, and people were still calling it SCR 514.
I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank.
Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
343
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:26:00 -
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I'm a Cal assault. I've been using caldari mediums since closed beta. Just what I like to use and am familiar with, saw no real reason to change that. |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.26 07:40:00 -
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Because there are constants in this game that CCP doesn't seem to realize but players do that:
- Assault Rifles are still inferior to Rail Guns [because even at short range there isn't anything that causes a railgun to loose to an Assault Rifle
- Assault Suits are still inferior to Logis and if you can figure out why then google it
- The cloak is NOT a game changer but CCP seems to like the idea of "stealth" so why not kill active scanners as well
- YOU WILL WASTE SKILL POINTS ON SOMETHING....just because it's a good idea now doesn't mean it will be later if they decide to nerf, buff or w/e.
Frankly the game has no understanding of what "roles" are; your logis isn't usually a support role player and your scout is usually a cloak wearing shotgun wielding player not-named but wishing to be Annie Oakley. My favorite part of this game: winning < K:D ratio and that players [yes I'm talking to you vehicle users there] who prefer racking up kills rather than helping to actually "win" the match. You could literally be stomping the opponents and help win the match but why provide cover fire to take the objective, your happy getting that kill.
To quote a Dilbert comic strip "Management is sometimes like drunken Lemurs". As I'v always said, players are just reacting to the best build possible based on how they wish to play the game. Sure people use laser rifles still. I also see some flaylock pistols. The overall point is, ppl use it but so few because the vast majority of the player base knows its a useless weapon to use overall so why use it. Same applies to suits and equipment. |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:09:00 -
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I was just in a match with 3 gallente assaults, and a minmatar assault
Seeing as how there are only 16 players, 4 of them being assaults, maybe 5 heavies, 2 logistics and the rest scouts I feel that it was a good balance.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:10:00 -
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Mat Auty wrote:i rolled proto mini logi and assualt kinda wishing i hadnt tho
Its not bad. Min logi is great! Min assault will be buffed soon TM.
Darth went amarr assault and logi. :)
Be happy that you didnt spec into Caldari assault though Mat. That suit is a JOKE.
Drop it like its hat.
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