DUST Search - no word on the laser rifle?

trooper7041 wrote:

It's gotten better in terms of the mid-range but it's not fantastic; but that's ok as this is how it should work. The added zoom when aiming down sight is great too.

It's still very much a niche weapon. You can not be a slayer with a LR. This ain't the Chromo build no more! It a fantastic weapon to have if you are a commando. Using this along with a AR, CR, or whatever means you can use it's advantages when needed, but not have to depend on a secondary as your primary.

Having said all that, the LR still needs improvements.

CONS
- Feedback damage + overheat delay (very long!)
- Slower reload speed
- Limited ammo
- Can not kill more than 2 with single clip (this is because you waste already about 30 just heating it up)
- Limited Effective ranges

At least with other weapons, provided you get nothing but head shots, you can take out 5-8 players on a single clip. This is not possible with a LR.

As it is already very different in terms of damage and function from every other weapon, why not change the clip as well? You shouldn't have to reload per 100 shots. The clip should be 500 IMO and only have 2 clips. The feedback damage will stop you from getting insane damage from the heat build-up.

Thoughts?

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calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2221	Posted - 2014.03.25 19:57:00 - [1] - Quote seriously nobody has said anything about it
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11711	Posted - 2014.03.25 19:58:00 - [2] - Quote I predicted that it would remain mediocre. Anyone have some thoughts? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
RECON BY FIRE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 352	Posted - 2014.03.25 19:59:00 - [3] - Quote Cause they sodomized it, again. They all overheat after 60 rounds now and the Amarr Assault bonus doesn't work. Stuff....?
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1239	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:06:00 - [4] - Quote Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. Best PvE idea ever!
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1450	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:08:00 - [5] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1240	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:13:00 - [6] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine How were you doing against RRs? I'm still trying to find the right range to engage them. Best PvE idea ever!
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1450	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine How were you doing against RRs? I'm still trying to find the right range to engage them. pssht im straight up raping them at 94m 55-103 is our new sexy space i have not been killed by a rr since 1.8..they would have to be able to either 1 out duel me at max range...not gunna happen or 2 close to cqc which they cant do super well it seems A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1471	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:35:00 - [8] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine Agreed. I had mixed results with it being ok versus basic and advanced suits but mediocre versus proto suits. L5 laser proficiency so its kind of ho hum results. Got more kills running mass drivers or shotguns, remotes. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2014.03.26 00:55:00 - [9] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine Agreed. I had mixed results with it being ok versus basic and advanced suits but mediocre versus proto suits. L5 laser proficiency so its kind of ho hum results. Got more kills running mass drivers or shotguns, remotes. now slap 2 dmg mods ona viziam and ur at the lvl of proto commando..double that and ur commando tanking..on commando which is meant to run off of dmg as opposed to amar assault which should have the longer firing time(if not glitched the commando lr shreds...and i would say when they give the viziam lower heat cost will be perfect A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
The-Errorist 581	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:19:00 - [10] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Cause they sodomized it, again. They all overheat after 60 rounds now and the Amarr Assault bonus doesn't work. The Amarr assault bonus does work, just wait until your dropsuit and weaponry skills kick in after a minute when ur hp fixes itself.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 9	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:22:00 - [11] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine How were you doing against RRs? I'm still trying to find the right range to engage them. pssht im straight up raping them at 94m 55-103 is our new sexy space i have not been killed by a rr since 1.8..they would have to be able to either 1 out duel me at max range...not gunna happen or 2 close to cqc which they cant do super well it seems Let me introduce myself then, im the man who will kill you with my proto rr As I great Minmitar soldier once said to me "Murder murder" Inspiration merc. slogan
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8962	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:48:00 - [12] - Quote calisk galern wrote: seriously nobody has said anything about it BEST GUN EVER NOW! "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2404	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:06:00 - [13] - Quote It is better. Much better. Sure, its a shame that they all overheat at 60/85 rounds, but the increased range, close range efficacy, and decreased feedback damage more than make up for that. This only thing I don't like is the increased zoom fidelity, although that might be a balancing factor to keep it in a long range role. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
trooper7041 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 38	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:58:00 - [14] - Quote It's gotten better in terms of the mid-range but it's not fantastic; but that's ok as this is how it should work. The added zoom when aiming down sight is great too. It's still very much a niche weapon. You can not be a slayer with a LR. This ain't the Chromo build no more! It a fantastic weapon to have if you are a commando. Using this along with a AR, CR, or whatever means you can use it's advantages when needed, but not have to depend on a secondary as your primary. Having said all that, the LR still needs improvements. CONS - Feedback damage + overheat delay (very long!) - Slower reload speed - Limited ammo - Can not kill more than 2 with single clip (this is because you waste already about 30 just heating it up) - Limited Effective ranges At least with other weapons, provided you get nothing but head shots, you can take out 5-8 players on a single clip. This is not possible with a LR. As it is already very different in terms of damage and function from every other weapon, why not change the clip as well? You shouldn't have to reload per 100 shots. The clip should be 500 IMO and only have 2 clips. The feedback damage will stop you from getting insane damage from the heat build-up. Thoughts?
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 750	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:27:00 - [15] - Quote trooper7041 wrote: It's gotten better in terms of the mid-range but it's not fantastic; but that's ok as this is how it should work. The added zoom when aiming down sight is great too. It's still very much a niche weapon. You can not be a slayer with a LR. This ain't the Chromo build no more! It a fantastic weapon to have if you are a commando. Using this along with a AR, CR, or whatever means you can use it's advantages when needed, but not have to depend on a secondary as your primary. Having said all that, the LR still needs improvements. CONS - Feedback damage + overheat delay (very long!) - Slower reload speed - Limited ammo - Can not kill more than 2 with single clip (this is because you waste already about 30 just heating it up) - Limited Effective ranges At least with other weapons, provided you get nothing but head shots, you can take out 5-8 players on a single clip. This is not possible with a LR. As it is already very different in terms of damage and function from every other weapon, why not change the clip as well? You shouldn't have to reload per 100 shots. The clip should be 500 IMO and only have 2 clips. The feedback damage will stop you from getting insane damage from the heat build-up. Thoughts? I want chrome LR back Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2736	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:43:00 - [16] - Quote I recorded the end-game stats from a match where I went 28-4 with it on an amarr commando. Third match I played today. Really wish I had recorded that match now :/ I LOVE this weapon now. Granted I do have advanced commando and proto lasers with prof 3, and about 10 of those kills were with my secondary, an assault scrambler rifle...but it was awesome tearing apart caldari sentinels I also just skilled into it today...about 1 million for the weapon and 500k for the amarr commando Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1671	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:47:00 - [17] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: I want chrome LR back Only if you use Laser rifles lol... they were almost as bad as rail rifles or the old Tac AR's lol The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 226	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:15:00 - [18] - Quote i did fine with it lol. 2 complex damage mods on my commando. just REALLY sensitive when ADS. VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 441	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:27:00 - [19] - Quote imma firin my lazerrrrr B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 309	Posted - 2014.03.27 10:27:00 - [20] - Quote SGT NOVA STAR wrote: i did fine with it lol. 2 complex damage mods on my commando. just REALLY sensitive when ADS. ikr 80/30 lol also the AA on laser is unpredictable
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.03.27 10:45:00 - [21] - Quote I've found it a viable weapon now. RR's can beat you at anything under 96m, if you get them in that 96-103m range they are toast normally. And it's no longer totally useless at close range also. It's certainly not the one weapon to slay them all though, and I'd been fairly good with it even pre 1.8 since I had changed to using racial weapons on all my characters rather than FOTM weapons. All in all, it seems ok, certainly not OP, probably still at the lower end since you need a wide open map to use it well.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1459	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:08:00 - [22] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Been doing pretty badly with it today. I can't make any judgments until they hotfix the Amarr assault heat reduction bug. Also, it seems the heat isn't being reduced by weapon tier, not sure if that's being addressed either, or is working as intended. It may need 10-20m more effective range (with proportional increase in zoom). Too early for me to say definitively though. it doesnt really need any zoom or range ive killed over 300 with it today once they fix the assault bonus and heat cost itll be fine How were you doing against RRs? I'm still trying to find the right range to engage them. pssht im straight up raping them at 94m 55-103 is our new sexy space i have not been killed by a rr since 1.8..they would have to be able to either 1 out duel me at max range...not gunna happen or 2 close to cqc which they cant do super well it seems Let me introduce myself then, im the man who will kill you with my proto rr really i doubt it as i have not been killed by a rr since 1.8 as i said..at least not that i can recall A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics

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