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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:53:00 -
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it's back to its former glory... thanks CCP. Great patch. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:54:00 -
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How so?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How so?
it kills like a boss.. great on a scout suit that can strafe. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:57:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How so? it kills like a boss.. great on a scout suit that can strafe.
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can anyone confirm he's not crazy? |
Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:58:00 -
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Looks like my Duvolle was switched out for a nerf gun...
Playing the game badly since Replication
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2221
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:58:00 -
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Seamie Schmoove wrote:Looks like my Duvolle was switched out for a nerf gun...
sooo.....it's bad then? |
Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:58:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How so? it kills like a boss.. great on a scout suit that can strafe. ? can anyone confirm he's not crazy?
why?
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2191
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:59:00 -
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Seamie Schmoove wrote:Looks like my Duvolle was switched out for a nerf gun...
So he is crazy
For the Federation!
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Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:03:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Seamie Schmoove wrote:Looks like my Duvolle was switched out for a nerf gun... sooo.....it's bad then?
I stated in another post that I'd like Ccp to give me the option to actually throw the freaking thing at enemies..at least surprise them for a second so I could run away Monty Python style!
Playing the game badly since Replication
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jeremy HATFIELD1
DETHDEALERS Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:08:00 -
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Seamie Schmoove wrote:calisk galern wrote:Seamie Schmoove wrote:Looks like my Duvolle was switched out for a nerf gun... sooo.....it's bad then? I stated in another post that I'd like Ccp to give me the option to actually throw the freaking thing at enemies..at least surprise them for a second so I could run away Monty Python style! lol, the good news is that the militia variant is not worthless, but then again the last time i used my tactical (70Kea) was before the rail rifle.
Anit-vehicle teams(16) vs tanker squad(6)= 1 tanker kill due to a orbital strike thanks to the drop uplinks
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8877
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:17:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How so? it kills like a boss.. great on a scout suit that can strafe.
Aisha said that as well actually.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:17:00 -
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It's really hard to take a scout out with it on a Gallente Assault.
Seriously just absorbing bullets.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:22:00 -
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I agree with him, and this is my rationale:
- The AR has a moderate shield bonus (10%), and moderate armor "dubuff" (10%).
- With the 25% bonus damage to shields, it does [(33 x 1.1) + (33 x 1.25)] (The math may be spotty, but I'm adding the damage a Duvolle puts out with the shield bonus to the bonus damage it does with Prof. 5)
Although the Duvolle does less damage to armor, it is not significantly less. One damage mod allows an AR to do close to it's listed damage on armor, while doing a lot of damage to shields. My personal belief is that the as a shield biased hybrid weapon, it does good damage to armor and excellent damage to shield, which is way better than the ScR (it already shreds shields) CR (It takes the longest to get through shields), and the RR (Takes the second longest to get through shields).
And from my experience, most people will duck into cover after just a second or two of fire - regardless of whether or not they actually resist that damage type. So it's better to be able to pop shields quickly (ScR and AR) and then hit them hard when they move again (AR only) than it is to struggle with shields (RR and CR) and deal with someone who's regenerated their shields by the time they move
Bottom line, AR crushes shields (at Prof. 5) while also having the potential to hit armor pretty hard at a high ROF. That sets up more weakened enemies than other rifles barring the ScR, while also having the ability to finish quickly
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
108
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:30:00 -
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people people please! are the AR's good or not, im not hip to the lingo thats going on except the last guys big well thought out post
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1403/redlinerails2%5B1%5D.jpg
i could look at this all day
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
573
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:38:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:people people please! are the AR's good or not, im not hip to the lingo thats going on except the last guys big well thought out post
The Galente Assault Rifle (AR) has gone from one of DUST's most used weapons to one of its most least used weapons. This was largely because two new weapons - the Combat Rifle (CR) and the Rail Rifle (RR) - were introduced. These new weapons successfully removed the AR from it's position of "The best weapon for every fight", but also took it out of its race defined niche of CQC.
For the last few builds, 1.8 included, the AR has been unchanged or outclassed by many other weapons. But some of DUST's more reputable posters - Aisha to name one - have said that the AR has gotten a breath of fresh air. I responded to the last claim.
Hope that clears everything up
"Tactical" - Tactical Assault Rifle "Duvolle" - Prototype Assault Rifle
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