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Cenex Langly wrote:

Roy Ventus wrote:

Croned wrote:

Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303

Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap.

Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small.

I am a developer of scientific computational programs. I don't have millions of dollars. When I am given a deadline, and when I submit my code it works perfectly as intended. My codes go in pipelines for satellites that orbit the earth. It is entirely possibly to get things right on the first try. If I had this many errors in my codes I would be out of a job. If their test servers are not yielding the same results as the live servers then they absolutely need to fix their test servers because something is wrong.

On another note, how difficult is it to notice that too much HP was going to be a problem. Everyone saw it on the Dev blog from the excel table... People without PhDs saw it. People who didn't graduate high school saw it. Don't make excuses for incompetence.

"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."

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Croned Gallente Federation 642	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:02:00 - [1] - Quote Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. Son of a plasma cannon!
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 822	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:04:00 - [2] - Quote CCP is bad and they should feel bad. Longer waits between patches means more bugs for CCP to not find, which means more time to fix the huge amount that crop up delaying further patches. It isn't going to get any better. This is the new EP's way of showing us what to expect from Fanfest. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 715	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:23:00 - [3] - Quote Well hopefully I learn to not spend my SP until everything has been fixed and double checked I'm looking at you Amarr scout skill multiplier TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Espartoi Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:25:00 - [4] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: CCP is bad and they should feel bad. Longer waits between patches means more bugs for CCP to not find, which means more time to fix the huge amount that crop up delaying further patches. It isn't going to get any better. This is the new EP's way of showing us what to expect from Fanfest. Is good to be bad. I win you lose.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 691	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:26:00 - [5] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Well hopefully I learn to not spend my SP until everything has been fixed and double checked I'm looking at you Amarr scout skill multiplier You need to learn that from day 1. Newb
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7635	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:33:00 - [6] - Quote Testing in the office never shows all of the problems compared to running it live on the server. The only way to find all of the remaining issues is to post the update live. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1199	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:33:00 - [7] - Quote because of "internal testing"
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 715	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:34:00 - [8] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Well hopefully I learn to not spend my SP until everything has been fixed and double checked I'm looking at you Amarr scout skill multiplier You need to learn that from day 1. O rly? TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1515	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:35:00 - [9] - Quote Croned wrote: Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 488	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:51:00 - [10] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. He is not a developer team backed by millions of dollars, your argument is retarded. They ****** up everything the patch did put on the table. Literally everything. TOLD514

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2548	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:56:00 - [11] - Quote Awesome i didnt expected anything less from CCP. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Rogue Saint Science For Death 1036	Posted - 2014.03.25 14:57:00 - [12] - Quote Pro tip: Don't spend any SP until a week after the patch. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Causes headaches, it's official
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 694	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:05:00 - [13] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Croned wrote: Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. I am a developer of scientific computational programs. I don't have millions of dollars. When I am given a deadline, and when I submit my code it works perfectly as intended. My codes go in pipelines for satellites that orbit the earth. It is entirely possibly to get things right on the first try. If I had this many errors in my codes I would be out of a job. If their test servers are not yielding the same results as the live servers then they absolutely need to fix their test servers because something is wrong. On another note, how difficult is it to notice that too much HP was going to be a problem. Everyone saw it on the Dev blog from the excel table... People without PhDs saw it. People who didn't graduate high school saw it. Don't make excuses for incompetence. Newb
Yeeeuuuupppp 180	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:11:00 - [14] - Quote Should I bother logging in or save myself the rage? I mostly use the amarr assault and that bug will probably ** me off the most... CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9**" I really want the templar set Feel the wrath of my troll
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 534	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:15:00 - [15] - Quote gotta love doom sayers, never happy, yes there are bugs, there are always bugs Fine me one game that released without bugs, find me one patch that did not release with bugs. Come on im waiting, oh wait you cant, every time you fix one thing in coding you break about 10 other things. This is normal, you can never perfectly code.
sabre prime The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 145	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:19:00 - [16] - Quote Croned wrote: Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. Bloody hell. That is a ridiculous list of bugs and errors. What is happening in the development pipeline? EDIT: I can't play till the weekend. But I don't think I will be spending any SP in suits for a while, until things stabilise. Really like this game CCP, but sometimes... Desperate attempt to get BPOs
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 868	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:36:00 - [17] - Quote Croned wrote: Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. We all knew there was gonna be bugs in 1.8 looks at list wow....yea, that's a lot DA ***** YOU MEAN MY G-SCOUT AND G-CAMMANDO ARE BROKEN!? Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 289	Posted - 2014.03.25 15:59:00 - [18] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. He is not a developer team backed by millions of dollars, your argument is retarded. They ****** up everything the patch did put on the table. Literally everything. Then leave. If the only thing you do here is QQ, then leave. There's nothing stopping you. There are many games out there, you don't like how this one works? Then go somewhere else, and leave this game for the patient people. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1517	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:01:00 - [19] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. He is not a developer team backed by millions of dollars, your argument is retarded. They ****** up everything the patch did put on the table. Literally everything. Have you programmed before? Do you know how easy it is to ** something up? Then shut the literal ** up. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Marc Rime 330	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:02:00 - [20] - Quote Uh, there are no major errors in that list. It's all just someone doing stuff in a hurry and making the odd mistake, it happens. Yeah, meticulously checking everything before release would have caught most of the mistakes, but that takes a lot of time. I'd rather they release stuff as quickly as possible, even if it means I have to live with a few items having bad values for a few days.

bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 360	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:03:00 - [21] - Quote Chinese New Year man. They took a vacation while we were all suffering in Tanks514 I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1517	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:04:00 - [22] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Croned wrote: Does all of this happen: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150303 Do you guys even test the game? I mean seriously, you had 3 ******* months and still managed to leave us with this crap. Become a professional game programmer, test a patch on a test server, and then bring it up live and tell me if everything's super peachy. There's always bound to be issues, whether they're big or small. I am a developer of scientific computational programs. I don't have millions of dollars. When I am given a deadline, and when I submit my code it works perfectly as intended. My codes go in pipelines for satellites that orbit the earth. It is entirely possibly to get things right on the first try. If I had this many errors in my codes I would be out of a job. If their test servers are not yielding the same results as the live servers then they absolutely need to fix their test servers because something is wrong. On another note, how difficult is it to notice that too much HP was going to be a problem. Everyone saw it on the Dev blog from the excel table... People without PhDs saw it. People who didn't graduate high school saw it. Don't make excuses for incompetence. I like that you don't have problems but apparently from other very experienced people, not even related to game development, code can fudge up pretty badly for whatever reason. Edit: That's why you always hear about this bug or that bug, or why there's always something that makes a system crash...etc. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Marc Rime 330	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:06:00 - [23] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Chinese New Year man. They took a vacation while we were all suffering in Tanks514 Well, yeah, employees get to do that sh*t. Slavery has been abolished, even for game devs. Go figure.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 697	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:24:00 - [24] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: Uh, there are no major errors in that list. It's all just someone doing stuff in a hurry and making the odd mistake, it happens. Yeah, meticulously checking everything before release would have caught most of the mistakes, but that takes a lot of time. I'd rather they release stuff as quickly as possible, even if it means I have to live with a few items having bad values for a few days.codinge No... Just no. Meticulously checking everything is good programming routine. In fact they say debugging is 80% of the coding process. If this is the case then they could have made all these changes in 2 weeks then spend the last 3 months making sure everything works properly. What we are seeing is laziness, rushed work, and bad management. This is the most frustrating thing of anything in the coding process. Bad coding would appear in the form of CCP Logibros response to tanks being fixed. He said they are trying to figure out how to fix tanks. He has no idea what the problem is, that is bad coding as there is nothing fixed yet because they don't know how to fix it. Newb
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 491	Posted - 2014.03.25 16:35:00 - [25] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Then leave. If the only thing you do here is QQ, then leave. There's nothing stopping you. There are many games out there, you don't like how this one works? Then go somewhere else, and leave this game for the patient people. Make me. All you do is reward complacency with unwarranted gratitude. Roy Ventus wrote: Have you programmed before? Do you know how easy it is to ** something up? Then shut the literal ** up. As a matter of fact, I did. And you seem not have coded anything past a java calculator if you believe that what CCP delivered today is professionally excusable in any way. TOLD514


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