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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1126	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:13:00 - [1] - Quote With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you.
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 604	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:18:00 - [2] - Quote Final goodbye to the weapon that is looking more viable than it ever was thanks to the nerfing of every rifle in the game? Saga v. Methana Balance
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1126	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:20:00 - [3] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Final goodbye to the weapon that is looking more viable than it ever was thanks to the nerfing of every rifle in the game? Nope Rifles killing slightly slower dosent fix the shotgun Especially when the shotgun is getting nerfed to. Only the breach shotgun will be viable
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 280	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:22:00 - [4] - Quote That's all you need is a one shot from an Allotek Breach. That's all I use, so i don't see the bad side of this change. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1126	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: That's all you need is a one shot from an Allotek Breach. That's all I use, so i don't see the bad side of this change. Its good for the breach Bad for the normal
Beld Errmon Nyain San 1488	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:29:00 - [6] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. Yep so long as you completely overlook the introduction of cloaking scouts, the shotgun is certainly dead, it will have absolutely no use in a game that will feature invisible scouts with low scan profiles and as many hitpoints as the logis and assaults running around....
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 292	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:32:00 - [7] - Quote Too bad the Breach Shotgun can rarely OHK as it is. Even in pubs, you'll probably only get an average of 5-7 kills out of one without resupplying. With the Breach being the "viable" shotgun and the RoF skill gone, we'll be back to the old problem of shotgunners being killed between shots when it's impossible to OHK. The only thing that made it viable back in closed beta was the increased range combined with the Shotgun Sharpshooter skill.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1128	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:43:00 - [8] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Too bad the Breach Shotgun can rarely OHK as it is. Even in pubs, you'll probably only get an average of 5-7 kills out of one without resupplying. With the Breach being the "viable" shotgun and the RoF skill gone, we'll be back to the old problem of shotgunners being killed between shots when it's impossible to OHK. The only thing that made it viable back in closed beta was the increased range combined with the Shotgun Sharpshooter skill. At least it will OHK more than the normal shotgun
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1128	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:44:00 - [9] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. Yep so long as you completely overlook the introduction of cloaking scouts, the shotgun is certainly dead, it will have absolutely no use in a game that will feature invisible scouts with low scan profiles and as many hitpoints as the logis and assaults running around.... Scouts have low hp Any scout that tanks HP will get destroy by any other scouts passive scanning
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1587	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:45:00 - [10] - Quote take a shotgun to the academy. its like chrome again Who wants some?
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 813	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:50:00 - [11] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. Yep so long as you completely overlook the introduction of cloaking scouts, the shotgun is certainly dead, it will have absolutely no use in a game that will feature invisible scouts with low scan profiles and as many hitpoints as the logis and assaults running around.... The cloak will only help against bad players and lets be honest agins bad players your low profil is already enough to get them killed. Also you cant fire while cloaked, so you first need to decloak and we still don't know how decloaking will behave. Will decloaking make a noise thats gives away your position or will it prevent you from shhoing for a short period of time leaving you vulnerable? Also you won't be invisible while on the move... There some situations where the cloak will come in handy but I guess it won't be a gamebreaker good scouts are already close to invisible.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 244	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:52:00 - [12] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. you're insane... 5 reasons the shotgun will be better than ever: - scanners are being majorly nerfed - scouts' profile has been lowered - more heavies, who are actually quite susceptible to shoddy scout, especially after being stealth fluxed - big rifle nerf - ummm.....cloaking
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1130	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:54:00 - [13] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. you're insane... 5 reasons the shotgun will be better than ever: - scanners are being majorly nerfed - scouts' profile has been lowered - more heavies, who are actually quite susceptible to shoddy scout, especially after being stealth fluxed - big rifle nerf - ummm.....cloaking Good scouts are already immune to scanners Heavy buff means you cannot go after heavies, you must avoid them Rifle nerf dosent make the shotgun good Cloaking will only help against bad players since your only invisible while still and cant shoot while cloaked
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1685	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:56:00 - [14] - Quote Hmm, I got 31 kills with a STD shotgun a couple days ago albeit I died 19 (lulz) times during that match. In all, it's a weapon I plan to spec further into. I only have Operations at level 1 but it seems to work well with what I use it for.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2357	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:59:00 - [15] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. Yep so long as you completely overlook the introduction of cloaking scouts, the shotgun is certainly dead, it will have absolutely no use in a game that will feature invisible scouts with low scan profiles and as many hitpoints as the logis and assaults running around.... Scouts have low hp Any scout that tanks HP will get destroy by any other scouts passive scanning I have a 550 EHP scout with a scan profile that only PRO Scouts Coated with Precision Enhancers or Gallogis Duvolle Focused Scanners can find. So... no, not really. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1130	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:00:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. Yep so long as you completely overlook the introduction of cloaking scouts, the shotgun is certainly dead, it will have absolutely no use in a game that will feature invisible scouts with low scan profiles and as many hitpoints as the logis and assaults running around.... Scouts have low hp Any scout that tanks HP will get destroy by any other scouts passive scanning I have a 550 EHP scout with a scan profile that only PRO Scouts Coated with Precision Enhancers or Gallogis Duvolle Focused Scanners can find. So... no, not really. 550 hp is low hp It can be one shotted by a shotgun
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1130	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:01:00 - [17] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Hmm, I got 31 kills with a STD shotgun a couple days ago albeit I died 19 (lulz) times during that match. In all, it's a weapon I plan to spec further into. I only have Operations at level 1 but it seems to work well with what I use it for. Dont spec further unless you plan on using the breach Spread decrease makes it worse
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1951	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:14:00 - [18] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Dexter307 wrote: With the release of 1.8 the shotgun proficiency change will nerf the shotgun and buff the breach shotgun. Goodbye normal shotgun, i will remember you. you're insane... 5 reasons the shotgun will be better than ever: - scanners are being majorly nerfed - scouts' profile has been lowered - more heavies, who are actually quite susceptible to shoddy scout, especially after being stealth fluxed - big rifle nerf - ummm.....cloaking shotty is getting a ROF nerf, so invalid. /thread click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1687	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Hmm, I got 31 kills with a STD shotgun a couple days ago albeit I died 19 (lulz) times during that match. In all, it's a weapon I plan to spec further into. I only have Operations at level 1 but it seems to work well with what I use it for. Dont spec further unless you plan on using the breach Spread decrease makes it worse Whoah, leveling it up reduces spread? Why? That doesn't make sense....
Tectonic Fusion 1294	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:17:00 - [20] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Hmm, I got 31 kills with a STD shotgun a couple days ago albeit I died 19 (lulz) times during that match. In all, it's a weapon I plan to spec further into. I only have Operations at level 1 but it seems to work well with what I use it for. Dont spec further unless you plan on using the breach Spread decrease makes it worse True. Also always aim for the head to OHKO fools. Solo Player Squad status: Locked

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