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al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 48	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:01:00 - [1] - Quote There are probably a bunch of threads on this subject but Cloaking fascinates me. Is this a skill limited to scouts or is it available to all classes/races? Is there the potential for entire squads/teams to turn up cloaked? Does the device have a Predator style tell? Can I catch a glimpse of a cloaked merc if I keep my eyes open? I've saved up 1m SP. Should I be spending it on this?? Plenty of early morning questions there... GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2056	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:05:00 - [2] - Quote 1.) Any suit can use it, spare for the basic heavy and sentinel. I'll be using it on the Commando for the laughs. 2.) Yes, actually, and that's potentially problematic. 3.) Yes, they'll be a little... glittery?... when they move. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4594	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:11:00 - [3] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Is this a skill limited to scouts or is it available to all classes/races? It fits in an Equipment slot, but it's defined as "not equipment" so Logis don't apply their fitting bonus (I've read the term "Utility" in a dev post somewhere). Any suit can fit them, but they cost a HUGE amount - Scouts get a 75% reduction in fitting costs, which is huge. Quote: Is there the potential for entire squads/teams to turn up cloaked? Potential? Yes. I doubt it will be a practical approach to combat, though. Quote: Does the device have a Predator style tell? Can I catch a glimpse of a cloaked merc if I keep my eyes open? This is a link to an image used in this dev blog. As you can see, the invisible suit isn't entirely invisible. Devs have mentioned a "shimmer" effect when cloaked suits are moving.
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1703	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:19:00 - [4] - Quote Clarification: Scout Operation is -15% to cloak fitting cost per level. It's only -75% at level 5. Convenient for something you take to proto immediately due to the dropsuit command refund, but don't expect it to be easy to fit if you're slowly grinding out SP to invest into the role. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 236	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:23:00 - [5] - Quote Metal gear solid ninja here i come (who said tha...........) Hit me with your nerf bat.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 612	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:27:00 - [6] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: Metal gear solid ninja here i come (who said tha...........) (Crack) Or (Shhhshhhshh...) Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4594	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:38:00 - [7] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Clarification: Scout Operation is -15% to cloak fitting cost per level. It's only -75% at level 5. Convenient for something you take to proto immediately due to the dropsuit command refund, but don't expect it to be easy to fit if you're slowly grinding out SP to invest into the role. Thanks for that. I should have said "up to" 75% there. My mistake.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2664	Posted - 2014.03.24 10:44:00 - [8] - Quote Probably gonna be using my logi and commando suit with a cloak, but not on every fitting, just on certain ones that are designed for more sneaky/flanking fits. As a commando you can't dampen yourself like on other suits (it's what I do to be competitive with my logi), but the cloaking will help as a flanking aid instead of a scanner. Using a minmatar one also helps as you are much faster and can get around easier. My logi suit will benefit from the cloak because I can use it to run away, or to compliment my hacking suit. Basically hack, remote, cloak, run and hide I'm not really that excited for it as it really is made for scouts, but I will always try out new things and all sorts of playstyles. The commando one might not work as well as the hacking fit, but we'll see. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 48	Posted - 2014.03.24 11:01:00 - [9] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Clarification: Scout Operation is -15% to cloak fitting cost per level. It's only -75% at level 5. Convenient for something you take to proto immediately due to the dropsuit command refund, but don't expect it to be easy to fit if you're slowly grinding out SP to invest into the role. Useful to know that - I killed a character I mistakenly skilled up in Scout Class and now I wish I hadn't.... GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 734	Posted - 2014.03.24 11:04:00 - [10] - Quote I'm looking forward to cloaking very much. Rocking Minscout on covert and Gal/Cal scout on my main. I'm staying proto Gallogi too because their services are going to be much appreciated come 1.8. I think a lot of people will spec into it and scouts thinking it's an iWin button but I think reality will sink in and people will see it's just an augmentation and should be used as such and not as the centerpiece of your game plan/approach. Ever since I saw CCP Remnant talk about eWar in DUST 514 @ FF last year I knew that my main was destined to become an eWar sepecialist and this update marks the start of that career. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing

Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 479	Posted - 2014.03.24 11:27:00 - [11] - Quote I look into my crystal ball and I only see remotes. TOLD514
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7610	Posted - 2014.03.24 11:45:00 - [12] - Quote I can see the minja using the cloak since Minmatar scouts are blind as bats without the passive range bonus that Gallente scouts have. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.24 12:14:00 - [13] - Quote Beeeees wrote: I look into my crystal ball and I only see remotes. Totally. I can see you Buy a tank Buy an assault dropship
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1629	Posted - 2014.03.24 12:18:00 - [14] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: There are probably a bunch of threads on this subject but Cloaking fascinates me. Is this a skill limited to scouts or is it available to all classes/races? Is there the potential for entire squads/teams to turn up cloaked? Does the device have a Predator style tell? Can I catch a glimpse of a cloaked merc if I keep my eyes open? I've saved up 1m SP. Should I be spending it on this?? Plenty of early morning questions there... It's all in this blog. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 48	Posted - 2014.03.24 12:32:00 - [15] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's all in this blog. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ So you can't go invisible and go on a scary ghost murder spree.. Okay - things are getting clearer.. Thank you for the link - something I probably should have gone and read in the first place! GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Temias Mercurial ANGEL FLEET 26	Posted - 2014.03.24 12:39:00 - [16] - Quote The reason why it's probably not listed as a equipment slot for logis (logis would be OP if their bonus applied, I'm just saying why it isn't equipment) is because it's attached to the cortex, the interface brought up by hacking and detonating remotes. It's not a single piece of equipment, but more of a add on to the suit. It probably make more sense to define it as related to a codebreaker module, which increases hacking speed, which is done with the cortex.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4116	Posted - 2014.03.24 13:35:00 - [17] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: I'm looking forward to cloaking very much. Rocking Minscout on covert and Gal/Cal scout on my main. I'm staying proto Gallogi too because their services are going to be much appreciated come 1.8. I think a lot of people will spec into it and scouts thinking it's an iWin button but I think reality will sink in and people will see it's just an augmentation and should be used as such and not as the centerpiece of your game plan/approach. Ever since I saw CCP Remnant talk about eWar in DUST 514 @ FF last year I knew that my main was destined to become an eWar sepecialist and this update marks the start of that career. Amen. I've been waiting for this for a long time. The EWAR era is upon us. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 739	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:04:00 - [18] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: I'm looking forward to cloaking very much. Rocking Minscout on covert and Gal/Cal scout on my main. I'm staying proto Gallogi too because their services are going to be much appreciated come 1.8. I think a lot of people will spec into it and scouts thinking it's an iWin button but I think reality will sink in and people will see it's just an augmentation and should be used as such and not as the centerpiece of your game plan/approach. Ever since I saw CCP Remnant talk about eWar in DUST 514 @ FF last year I knew that my main was destined to become an eWar sepecialist and this update marks the start of that career. Amen. I've been waiting for this for a long time. The EWAR era is upon us. Same, my jaw dropped when I first heard about it. I will become a true grey cardinal on the battlefield. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1694	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:36:00 - [19] - Quote Beeeees wrote: I look into my crystal ball and I only see remotes. 10 Flux 15 Hack 20 Flux 25 Hack 30 Flux 35 Hack 40 Kill until dead 45 GOTO 10 Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 760	Posted - 2014.03.24 14:38:00 - [20] - Quote ugh as a minnie logi this is going to suck. most of the people that i heal are just brain dead. they will never notice these freaking ninjas even if they smacked them in the face.



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