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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:00:00 -
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I was browsing these lovely pages on the Dust forums, which might I add always exemplify the highest pinnacle of human intellect, when I came across a post mentioning a time when Swarm Launchers launched dumbfire missile. Now, I have been around here for quite some time, but when I first started I had no interest in SLs, so I must have completely missed this.
Why is this no longer a thing?! Good God, man! Sure, keep the option to target, but the ability to dumbfire would be ******* incredible! I would have proto Swarms this very second.
Not because it would be OP (with the laughable damage, you'd be lucky to kill most medium suits, and the new heavies will be tickled. It's really just scouts who get the anal probe here and that's only if they aren't brick tanked), but because it would just be absolutely glorious to come leaping off of a ledge above some unlucky fool and unleash a barrage of pure liberty down upon him. 'Murika.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:04:00 -
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It's no longer a thing because in the days of the dumbfire swarm launcher they had huge splash damage. You could use them like more effective shotguns that you didn't really have to aim.
In the typical CCP fashion, though, splash was nerfed AND they removed dumbfire. I'd quite like to see dumbfire without that splash.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Kara Anschel
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:04:00 -
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Back when swarms dumbfired they were the bane of everyone's existence. You could kill people beyond render range (this meant that the missiles didn't render either), and it pretty much 1 shot (volleyed?) anything you pointed them at. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:06:00 -
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#lolnowayjose
Pair of pop rocks? Pair of docks? No silly Paradox WAIT!
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:11:00 -
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You probably saw my earlier thread figuring out how bad they were, and it turns out instead of fixing them CCP just removed that aspect of it all together from what I gathered. Link to my suggestion in my sig, it's a bit of a work in progress.
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Return dumbfire to Swarms
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:11:00 -
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Kara Anschel wrote:Back when swarms dumbfired they were the bane of everyone's existence. You could kill people beyond render range (this meant that the missiles didn't render either), and it pretty much 1 shot (volleyed?) anything you pointed them at.
edit: I still haven't forgiven you for leaving us QQ
I'm pretty sure no one has. lol Which none of us understand because we're still here but no one wants to squad with us. :P
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:14:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:You probably saw my earlier thread figuring out how bad they were, and it turns out instead of fixing them CCP just removed that aspect of it all together.
Probably. Yeah, see, I think it would be awesome if they could dumbfire, but with tweaked splash and such. I think that the assault variant (because let's face it, no one wants to tickle two vehicles at once) should have dumbfire but with less damage.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:17:00 -
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A Wall of missles that extends for hundreds of meters, yep can't see any way that this could be OP. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:19:00 -
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It should come back with a damage reduction since swarm launchers clearly aren't meant to be anti vehicle weapons.
make it lowish damage missiles. Like 75-125 per missile, low splash, and laser guided.
Skills for velocity and travel time. caldari are supposed to have missiles.
then they can share the railguns with gallente like they should.
if you can hit me with 6 missiles as I'm running at 50-100meters you deserve the kill because that's a greatshot.
Even laser guided, it's hard to keep a laser rifle on someone 100% of the time. swarms won't be that easy to use.
Add an assault variant too but with a 12-24round clip and make it automatic.
a breach version with a single large missile like the plasma cannon.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:23:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:A Wall of missles that extends for hundreds of meters, yep can't see any way that this could be OP.
That's because they've been dumbed down from eve missiles.
Missiles are supposed to have velocity and flight time.
At crazy range they would fizzle out before hitting you.
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Heroes in a half Gank!
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:24:00 -
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They'd be more or less comparable to the Plasma Cannon were they dumbfire now. I'd be ok with that. Might need to only fire a half volley in dumbfire mode, lock on for the full swarm. |
Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:37:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:It should come back with a damage reduction since swarm launchers clearly aren't meant to be anti vehicle weapons.
make it lowish damage missiles. Like 75-125 per missile, low splash, and laser guided.
Skills for velocity and travel time. caldari are supposed to have missiles.
then they can share the railguns with gallente like they should.
if you can hit me with 6 missiles as I'm running at 50-100meters you deserve the kill because that's a greatshot.
Even laser guided, it's hard to keep a laser rifle on someone 100% of the time. swarms won't be that easy to use.
Add an assault variant too but with a 12-24round clip and make it automatic.
a breach version with a single large missile like the plasma cannon.
Precisely!
Edit: Also, +1 for your sig.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:42:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:They'd be more or less comparable to the Plasma Cannon were they dumbfire now. I'd be ok with that. Might need to only fire a half volley in dumbfire mode, lock on for the full swarm.
Only if they share the PLCs nature of flying through anyone that is within 5 meters of you. Otherwise, it will be a better shotgun. |
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