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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:56:00 -
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What we need here is some input from the dev's about reducing the range of railgun's on tanks.
Make the range of railguns the same as forge guns.
I think this will reduce red line tanking. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:16:00 -
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What we need is some inidcation from CCP that they understand the problem. They haven't even acknowledged the problems so how could you expect them to discuss solutions?
I was strongly in favor of a test server to quickly itterate on the vehicle changes outside of the production game, but understood that Sony could be preenting them from doing so. What I did expect was continued attention and monthly itterations on the new vehicle balance mechanism to get it in shape as quickly as possible with as little disruption to the released game.
What I observed was a very broken mechanic right out of the gate and a complete abondoment of the responsibility to fix it. It's been months with no patch, and then the next patch doesn't even attempt to address it. Instead the vehcile imbalance festers in release like an open sore.
My personal opinion is that they can't fix it while they force vehicle and infantry to occupy the same role, and they can't come up with any new roles until they add a lot more to the game. I'm hoping that Fanfest gives us presentations acknowledging the issues and a roadmap for fixing them. If the new EP doesn't do that I won't expect it to ever get fixed. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:18:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:
I think this will reduce red line tanking.
You think? we don't need opinions here we need facts.
Assassination is my thing.
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:22:00 -
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Nothing can be done to fix redline tanks. CCP, as I have said before, CCp cannot control the level of bitchassness of players. matter what changes they make based on feed back or new content the levels of bitchassness from this player base continues rise.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:57:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:DRE PrEaCh wrote:
I think this will reduce red line tanking.
You think? we don't need opinions here we need facts.
Facts? Well obviously if you read the second post you would have realized that since there's no way to test this change that i'm proposing then you can't be given FACTS.
All we can do is propose a change and see if it produces successful results.
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:00:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Nothing can be done to fix redline tanks. CCP, as I have said before, CCp cannot control the level of bitchassness of players. matter what changes they make based on feed back or new content the levels of bitchassness from this player base continues rise.
I see your point but do realize that it's already been done with forge guns. The specs were changed on FG's to reduce/eliminate red line forge snipers. That change was a successful one. |
JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:04:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:DRE PrEaCh wrote:
I think this will reduce red line tanking.
You think? we don't need opinions here we need facts.
We need opinions. What is your solution smarty pants?
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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killer carrot top
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:15:00 -
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Well and idea to fix the redline, you know when you aim something and you get that little info display. How about this if your in the red line and aiming at something if the info display say the target is farther then say 50 to 75meters your shot explodes whilst in the redline. So if you being redline you can still possibly push out but you can't just sit there and peg drops ship and everything else down. This just a basic idea it can be expanded on. Not facts but a good start I guess. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:18:00 -
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What we need is nothing less than a redesign of the game mechanics to allow for the removal of the redline.
Without that, we will forever be cursed to small maps.
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JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:What we need is nothing less than a redesign of the game mechanics to allow for the removal of the redline.
Without that, we will forever be cursed to small maps.
Look at BF4, there are tanks, alot of tanks and no one complains. The reason why in Dust is broken is because there arent enough swarm lunchers. If ccp can release more swarms from all factions and Make them as a secondary instead of a " Primary " then we can see a difference.
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:23:00 -
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Vehicle caps per type. That way in FW you have tactical teamkilling to ensure scrubtankers are kept in check, and pubs are, well, pubs.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:25:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:What we need here is some input from the dev's about reducing the range of railgun's on tanks.
Make the range of railguns the same as forge guns.
I think this will reduce red line tanking.
what we need is the maps to be bigger and the spawns to wider and have more of red line spawns . doing this you open up the map so its harder to redline the other team and making it harder when you make the battle zone bigger harder for rail tanks to cover everything from the red line.
the ONLY PLAYERS THAT ARE NOT FOR THIS ARE THE ONES WHO THINK THIS IS BF where your goal is to spawn camp after bum rushing the other teams base spawn.
same go,s for snipers !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:35:00 -
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Have actually been suggesting this for a while. This would "help" with railgun snipers. Forget the redline entirely, its there to prevent absolute murder....Yes we have a leave game button...but really people if they leave, they get nothing from their deaths and what resistance they were able to put against you guys. Redline stays, range goes and the issue will be better.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:13:00 -
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I really want them to drop the range/dps of large turrets, but allow them to look up... Problem solved and will make battles between dropships and tanks far more interesting, while also removing redlining due to not being able to shoot at anything from there. |
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