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Zack3000 Smith wrote:

Hakyou Brutor wrote:

Zack3000 Smith wrote:

babies cry they will give them what they want

You don't remember the swarms from pre-1.7, do you? Let me remind you...

330 x 1.45(3 dmg mods+prof) = 478.5

478.5 x 6(amount per volley(control)) = 2871

478.5 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 334.95

334.95 x 6(amount per volley(shield)) = 2009.7

478.5 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 622.05

622.05 x 6(amount per volly(armor)) = 3732.3 <---- HERE (3723 dmg from a single volley)

They were so broken.

Dude i been here on that dust. before 1.7 if you was in a tank you was cool. I rode with quite a few i would jump out cause i thought they was gonna die. now its like okay yeah your cool man when you see a tank....What we have now with tanks in general is broken.

They didnt have to nerf like they did. What did CCP do??? They spoon feed tankers gave them MLT tanks that can do or almost do what 500,000 ISK tanks did pre 1.7..Honestly they nerf AV then Lower the tanks cost. I dont care if its a tanks that 60,000 ISK Metal tin can should not be able to shut down have the map. MLT AV should be able to take down a MLT Tanks.

But we cant get balance because we also have to think about dropships and the crazy cost of flying them..

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Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 42	Posted - 2014.03.22 00:51:00 - [1] - Quote A lot of people complain about suits, vehicles, and other stuff in the game. I really don't understand it. I don't complain much anymore because I know the perfect solution. Like the title says, it doesn't hurt to try (but it does hurt your wallet & SP, so it's kinda a contradiction). Like for example, a lot of people complain about tanks. They try every tactic they know but they still can't take them down. Someone once told me "If you can't beat them, join them." That's not a bad idea. While there are complaints about tanks, you can start using tanks and make them better and you can be just as good as the guys you're complaining about. And that goes for anything else in the game. If you actually try it and get good kills with/in it, you won't be complaining about it anymore. Some people think different, but like I said before, just try it. "DUST Rookie Scrub Of The Millennium" Horizons' Edge Dedicated Heavy
Zack3000 Smith SilenT AngelS 40	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Prince Adidas wrote: A lot of people complain about suits, vehicles, and other stuff in the game. I really don't understand it. I don't complain much anymore because I know the perfect solution. Like the title says, it doesn't hurt to try (but it does hurt your wallet & SP, so it's kinda a contradiction). Like for example, a lot of people complain about tanks. They try every tactic they know but they still can't take them down. Someone once told me "If you can't beat them, join them." That's not a bad idea. While there are complaints about tanks, you can start using tanks and make them better and you can be just as good as the guys you're complaining about. And that goes for anything else in the game. If you actually try it and get good kills with/in it, you won't be complaining about it anymore. Some people think different, but like I said before, just try it. No.. then this game will really turn into a tank game. How about we get "balance". Tankers QQ until they got what they have now.. CCP proves is enough babies cry they will give them what they want.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2242	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:03:00 - [3] - Quote Weeeeelllllll... I've been complaining about tanks since the second week of 1.7. I run them and have done for more than a year. So I think you might be wrong there. ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4410	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:07:00 - [4] - Quote Everything has a perk if you don't suck. I use commandos at times. They have their place. I am your scan error.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3588	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:31:00 - [5] - Quote That's called following the flavor of the month. You are right in that it doesn't hurt you but it sure makes the game less fun on both sides 68 inches above sea level...
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 43	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:32:00 - [6] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Weeeeelllllll... I've been complaining about tanks since the second week of 1.7. I run them and have done for more than a year. So I think you might be wrong there. I see. Well, I had that happen to me also. I tried medium suits for a few hours and I didn't like it. I never complained about them though. I'm a heavy type of guy. "DUST Rookie Scrub Of The Millennium" Horizons' Edge Dedicated Heavy
Assault Swarm Launcher Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:36:00 - [7] - Quote I've been tanking before 1.7 was even a though, and even before I became an AVer. I'll still complain about them, as it is still EZ-Mode.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 130	Posted - 2014.03.22 01:37:00 - [8] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: babies cry they will give them what they want You don't remember the swarms from pre-1.7, do you? Let me remind you... 330 x 1.45(3 dmg mods+prof) = 478.5 478.5 x 6(amount per volley(control)) = 2871 478.5 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 334.95 334.95 x 6(amount per volley(shield)) = 2009.7 478.5 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 622.05 622.05 x 6(amount per volly(armor)) = 3732.3 <---- HERE (3723 dmg from a single volley) They were so broken. My 1.8 fit
Zack3000 Smith SilenT AngelS 41	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:20:00 - [9] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: babies cry they will give them what they want You don't remember the swarms from pre-1.7, do you? Let me remind you... 330 x 1.45(3 dmg mods+prof) = 478.5 478.5 x 6(amount per volley(control)) = 2871 478.5 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 334.95 334.95 x 6(amount per volley(shield)) = 2009.7 478.5 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 622.05 622.05 x 6(amount per volly(armor)) = 3732.3 <---- HERE (3723 dmg from a single volley) They were so broken. Dude i been here on that dust. before 1.7 if you was in a tank you was cool. I rode with quite a few i would jump out cause i thought they was gonna die. now its like okay yeah your cool man when you see a tank....What we have now with tanks in general is broken. They didnt have to nerf like they did. What did CCP do??? They spoon feed tankers gave them MLT tanks that can do or almost do what 500,000 ISK tanks did pre 1.7..Honestly they nerf AV then Lower the tanks cost. I dont care if its a tanks that 60,000 ISK Metal tin can should not be able to shut down have the map. MLT AV should be able to take down a MLT Tanks. But we cant get balance because we also have to think about dropships and the crazy cost of flying them..
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3241	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:22:00 - [10] - Quote I tried the RR Heavy thing today. I felt so dirty. I have to admit I don't like the charge thing so I'm not comfortable with it and didn't do great, but I could see the potential. If it didn't have that pause when triggered, I'd be that Fatty with a Kaalakiota making people want to Biomass. Oh, sweet baby Jeebus the amount of damage delivered with that range.... I GÖú Kittens.

Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 131	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:37:00 - [11] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: babies cry they will give them what they want You don't remember the swarms from pre-1.7, do you? Let me remind you... 330 x 1.45(3 dmg mods+prof) = 478.5 478.5 x 6(amount per volley(control)) = 2871 478.5 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 334.95 334.95 x 6(amount per volley(shield)) = 2009.7 478.5 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 622.05 622.05 x 6(amount per volly(armor)) = 3732.3 <---- HERE (3723 dmg from a single volley) They were so broken. Dude i been here on that dust. before 1.7 if you was in a tank you was cool. I rode with quite a few i would jump out cause i thought they was gonna die. now its like okay yeah your cool man when you see a tank....What we have now with tanks in general is broken. They didnt have to nerf like they did. What did CCP do??? They spoon feed tankers gave them MLT tanks that can do or almost do what 500,000 ISK tanks did pre 1.7..Honestly they nerf AV then Lower the tanks cost. I dont care if its a tanks that 60,000 ISK Metal tin can should not be able to shut down have the map. MLT AV should be able to take down a MLT Tanks. But we cant get balance because we also have to think about dropships and the crazy cost of flying them.. I agree with you, but to a degree. You say we (tankers) were cry babies... if you got killed in 3 shots from 300 meters away to lose 1.3 mil isk you'd be angry too! However, yes, this nerfed swarms way too hard... OR, a recently discovered glitch by Judge Rhad shows that swarms aren't doing half as much damage as they're supposed to. Swarms right now are supposedly doing... PROTOTYPE 220 x 1.4(3 dmg mods+prof) = 308 308 x 6(amount per volley(control)) = 1848 308 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 215.6 215.6 x 6(amount per volley(shield)) = 1293 308 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 400.4 400.4 x 6(amount per volley(armor)) = 2402.4 ADVANCED 220 x 1.18(2 dmg mods(no prof)) = 259.6 259.6 x 5(amount per volley(control)) = 1298 259.6 x 0.7(shield effectiveness) = 181.72 181.72 x 5(amount per volley(shield)) = 908.6 259.6 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 337.48 337.48 x 5(amount per volley(armor)) = 1687.3 STANDARD & MILITIA 220 x 1.1(1 dmg mod(no prof) = 242 242 x 4(amount per volley(control)) = 968 242 x .7(shield effectiveness) = 169.4 169.4 x 4(amount per volley(shield)) = 677.6 242 x 1.3(armor effectiveness) = 314.6 314.6 x 4(amount per volley(armor)) = 1258.4 But we all know that's not true. There is an obvious screw up by someone... and AVers have been paying for it for months. My 1.8 fit
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12382	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:45:00 - [12] - Quote To hell with balance. All the cool kids are doin' it. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Bax Zanith 95	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:47:00 - [13] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I tried the RR Heavy thing today. I felt so dirty. I have to admit I don't like the charge thing so I'm not comfortable with it and didn't do great, but I could see the potential. If it didn't have that pause when triggered, I'd be that Fatty with a Kaalakiota making people want to Biomass. Oh, sweet baby Jeebus the amount of damage delivered with that range.... Funny thing is, I did the reverse. I once had a heavy RR fit, then after finding out people abused the fit I dicided to replace the heavy suit with a starter fit; there was no difference in performance. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.


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