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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:09:00 -
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I've been thinking about this before proposed 1.8 changes and I don't think the 1.8 changes have changed my mind.
Remove the lvl 5 req for weapon proficiency. Either remove the req altogether or make it a lvl 1 req only.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:10:00 -
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After one learns how to operate something they then learn how to be proficient at doing so afterwards they start to master said techniques of operation.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:10:00 -
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What are your reasons for this suggestion? Especially since 1.8 hasn't dropped yet for us to gauge how the weapons' damage will be after tuesday.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:12:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:I've been thinking about this before proposed 1.8 changes and I don't think the 1.8 changes have changed my mind.
Remove the lvl 5 req for weapon proficiency. Either remove the req altogether or make it a lvl 1 req only.
If you ask for something you should give some reasoning... otherwise it's just spam!
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:36:00 -
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Why should you be able to increase the damage output of a standard weapon to the same as or more than the proto variant without skilling up to the proto variant?
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:After one learns how to operate something they then learn how to be proficient at doing so afterwards they start to master said techniques of operation.
Are you arguing for or against the proposal? hard to tell?
Consider a camera phone, i might be very proficient at taking photo's with my camera phone, give me a DSLR or a MedIum format camera - I don't know how to operate these.. SO i then need to learn how to operate them.
You can become proficient with a basic/consumer item before learning how to operate a more complicated/professional version. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:50:00 -
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A bigger deal for me is that optimization shouldn't require proficiency 5
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:51:00 -
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It's where it is, but pretty expansive for how it will work after 1.8
It should be dropped to 3x
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:53:00 -
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What... why? It's fine the way it is, in my opinion. If it were up to me, I'd switch the quick reload to unlock at level 3, not 2, but whatever. Also, the fitting optimizing for weapons to be unlocked at prof 3, not 4 or 5.
I'd also give the knives a fitting optimizing like every other weapon, but this is all just me. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:00:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Why should you be able to increase the damage output of a standard weapon to the same as or more than the proto variant without skilling up to the proto variant?
Just skilling straight up to the proto variant would use less total SP, but being able to skill up proficiency without op lvl 5 requirement would help newer players with less SP - for 31,000 sp they get an extra 2% on their Militia/Std/ADV weapon.
Then again, why do i bother giving a ****? |
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:03:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:What are your reasons for this suggestion? Especially since 1.8 hasn't dropped yet for us to gauge how the weapons' damage will be after tuesday.
It's nothing to do with weapons dmg in 1.8, or in any other build. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:07:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:If you ask for something you should give some reasoning... otherwise it's just spam!
I didn't ask for anything, i stated an opinion. It's not spam either, spam is an entirely different type of meat (but seriously, this is not the definition of spam)
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GǪIt's not bacon either. |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:After one learns how to operate something they then learn how to be proficient at doing so afterwards they start to master said techniques of operation.
And here we thought you supported tieracide... 
Seriously speaking it is an interesting thought. If CCP wasn't nerfing the Proficiency skills I'd be all over it. With longer Time-To-Kill the Proficiency skills are about to become more valuable. Lowering the bar to 3 or 4 isn't unreasonable. Although the Operation Skill at 5 should be kept for prototype weapons, IMO.
+1 to the O.P. for an interesting post.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.22 09:41:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:A bigger deal for me is that optimization shouldn't require proficiency 5
I don't disagree with you, would greatly benefit new and lower sp players |
Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.03.22 10:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:After one learns how to operate something they then learn how to be proficient at doing so afterwards they start to master said techniques of operation.
Okay then why do you need to go to proficiency level 5 just to use the core flaylock pistol I do think that needs to be changed.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
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KatanaPT
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
607
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:15:00 -
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Taking a Masters degree without finishing high school.
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