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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:09:00 -
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Defend yourselves
this will amuse me.. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:11:00 -
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Don'tr waistr my time'r
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
779
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:12:00 -
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OP is bad and should feel bad.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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DootDoot
Da Short Buss
RISE of LEGION
296
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:12:00 -
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waistr wrote:Defend yourselves
this will amuse me..
Someone can't make his personal number bigger... So has thrown his hands into their air and called the number useless.
There are pills for that brah. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3586
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:13:00 -
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I don't value it. But I couldn't defend my penchant for hunting those who do any more than they could for doing so.
To each his own. And to each one of them, I offer a small present. Then I swiftly run away and tap my wrist.
No.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
894
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:15:00 -
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It is the only thing to judge one's value on the field.
Want PVE? Wonder why?
New picture every day.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3586
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:17:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:It is the only thing to judge one's value on the field.
W/L ratio, and maybe more importantly WP/D ratios are much more relevant.
Anyone can jump in a squad and sit on a rooftop for a few games.
No.
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:19:00 -
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waistr wrote:Defend yourselves
this will amuse me..
They give you 50 points for a kill and 0 for dying.
You can win any game mode by depleting the other teams clones, so killing > dying.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
769
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:20:00 -
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The people that play this game have a fascination with KDR, and I mean both types of people.
One group says that KDR is really important because it is used to judge the effectiveness of someone on the field. They make lots of posts about "stop saying KDR is pointless."
Another group says KDR isn't important because how many people you kill doesn't matter if you are doing other things to help your teammates like hack objectives or play logistical support. They make lots of posts about "stop saying KDR is important." |
Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:21:00 -
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its an adversarial game, its a first person shooter, not a first person medic/support guy game, in every game mode you can win by out killing the enemy, theres no explanation for why having a high kdr is bad but there are plenty for why having a low one is. there are some of my thoughts on the issue
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3043
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:22:00 -
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What would you sue to determine usefulness?
WP/D? That would just mean logi's are always number 1 on the leaderboard. Say what you will about logi's being useful, but they are without a doubt the most easymode warpoint farmers that exist.
ISK Lost/ISK Destroyed? So anyone that uses BPOs get's an infinity stat because they lose 0 ISK, even if they suck so hard that they die 150 times in one game.
Of course K/DR isn't perfect, but it doesn't have half the problems any other form of stat has.
EDIT: Looked up at another person's post and saw W/L ratio. So anybody that plays pub matches gets penalized for losing a game when he gets stuck with a bunch of scrubs? Hardly an indicator of skill.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3116
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:23:00 -
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It's just a way of measuring how many people you can kill before you die. Some people would consider that as important as any other stat.
Selling Templar BPO's 250Mil Last of the BPO's(Click link)
I feed off your tears
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BigStuarty
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:28:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:its an adversarial game, its a first person shooter, not a first person medic/support guy game, in every game mode you can win by out killing the enemy, theres no explanation for why having a high kdr is bad but there are plenty for why having a low one is. there are some of my thoughts on the issue
Erm Camping would be a reason, proto stomping not, those guys earnt the ability so they should use it but there are some nasty tricks out there, Anyhow been in plenty of matchs where the killers dont win because .......its an endless argument . We should respect that we all play the game to what we require ... though the main point is to capture and protect the objective... |
KGB Sleep
880
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:30:00 -
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K/D is important but only for self evaluation. Watching it rise as you evolve in the game means you are getting better and learning.
Padding K/D for the sole purpose of making it rise is not a true indicator of skill. Those who choose to pad lose a valuable tool. It is like lying to yourself. Eventually you will believe your k/d is actually skill. That gain from 1.5 to 7.0 you have from stomping or redline thales isn't **** compared to my solo infantry's 1.2 to 1.4 that hacks objectives and pushes.
Make ISK check payable to KGB Sleep.
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Because beer, that's why.
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Balamob
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:32:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:It is the only thing to judge one's value on the field.
Sad there isnt possible to be shown on the charts when u see some1 got 100+++ KDR |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8553
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:43:00 -
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It's only really important to me personally....in any other circumstance it only allows me to make an immediate assumption of what kind of player they are.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4688
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:45:00 -
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For a straight up infantry player, kdr shows how good they are at killing. That's why I think it is important
Side Note: Sniping does NOT count in this bunch.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2337
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:21:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:It is the only thing to judge one's value on the field.
Yeah... no.
Redline snipers are next to useless, and they usually have higher K/DRs than most actually useful players.
W/L would be the best way to judge their value if FW wasn't broken.
WP/D could also work if there wasn't a way to farm that too.
Truth is, the only way to really judge their usefulness is to actually play with them and see how they perform first hand, because every trackable stat is also a farmable stat.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2374
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:22:00 -
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In the words of the great and all powerful Regnyum,
"KDR > EVERYTHING" |
Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
519
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:36:00 -
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People can value whatever stat they want to. KDR, W/L, WP, Isk Ratios, who cares?
I value my KDR to some extent because I'm a goddamn heavy. All I ******* do is feed my meat grinder and blow **** up with a Forge Gun. To me, getting more kills than deaths is a good way to measure how successful I am as a heavy.
However, I often do have fun with little disregard to my KDR by running a Heavy Melee fit. Punching people to death is great fun and I look forward to finally deploying my Melee Minmatar Sentinel next week.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1445
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:02:00 -
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my PC spec is ninja hacker.
a positive kdr in my role means i was doing too much pew pew not enough hacky hack.
the importance of your kdr is purly dependant on your role in the game.
so technically both sides of the argument are correct. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
910
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:22:00 -
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KDR means nothing. ISK efficiency is everything.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
847
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:32:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:It is the only thing to judge one's value on the field. W/L ratio, and maybe more importantly WP/D ratios are much more relevant. Anyone can jump in a squad and sit on a rooftop for a few games.
W/L doesn't mean jacksh!t in this game when the matchmaker makes lop sided matches and throws you in ones that are already over. W/L only means anything on the corp level and that only applies to PC exclusive corps (meaning the members only play PC).
WP/D at most means as much as KDR because anyone can spam uplinks and otherwise exploit WP gain for a few games.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3620
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:35:00 -
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C'mon Anakin, positive thoughts!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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castba
Penguin's March
341
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:22:00 -
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It is what it is.
Perhaps if we had per game stats... |
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