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Ace Boone
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:08:00 -
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Normally, I would finish out Minmitar scout without a doubt, but this patch has really got me thinking. Commando or scout?
Pros of going Minmitar scout:
It would let me easily make an insta-hack fit with the ability to put on 2x enhanced codebreakers + 25% hacking speed bonus. This would in turn help me out a ton in farming points on skirm, or capturing those much needed supply depots early in the game.
The 25% damage bonus to nova knives + proficiency V + 1x enhanced/Complex damage mods will result in a base damage of 290 with the ishukone nova knives and I'd pretty much one shot heavies using the charge.
They're extremely fast.
Fun to solo with.
Cons of going Minmitar scout:
I'm made of paper unless I stack complex shield extenders and have a ferroscale (very PG/CPU consuming) active.
They don't have any of the killer bonuses the other classes do (Cal. scouts will see EVERYTHING, Gallente are practically undetectable)
They're generally more difficult to be effective on.
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I could go Minmitar Commando.
My go-to fit with this was gonna basically be this (I absolutely love the concept of this idea):
2x Complex shield extenders
1x Enhanced armor plate
1x PG upgrade (**** it)
K17/D repping nanohives
Boundless Combat Rifle
either EXO-5 mass driver or Freedom with proficiency V
Pros of going Minimtar Commando:
It deals out a crapton of damage with the weapons I'm specced into, basically making the TTK nerfs nothing to me.
It still has a decent amount of HP, while being almost as fast as my proto logi fit (one kinetic catalyzer could fix that)
With the nanohives, I no longer need to worry about having an armor repairer, because **** that.
The mass driver is being given a buff plus the 25% base damage bonus I'm getting, plus the possible damage modifiers, it will pillage CQC sitautions and allow us to totally dominate the chocolate factory (silo domination map)
It's great for flanking and clearing out multiple enemies
I will get the bonus not only to the mass driver, but also the combat rifle, giving that a 25% overall damage bonus (15% from proficiency V will only apply to armor, however).
Cons of going Minmitar Commando
It's almost a damn glass cannon, but I'll be damned if it isn't effective as hell and dominant over all other commandos/assaults at CQC
The speed bonus won't matter much if I have armor plating
Only 44 base PG.
meh.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:11:00 -
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Go min scout then save for Commando. I look at the low HP as a reason to play more careful. I have always played too wreck less.
It makes me think about what I am doing more.
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Ace Boone
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:15:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Go min scout then save for Commando. I look at the low HP as a reason to play more careful. I have always played too wreck less.
It makes me think about what I am doing more.
Oh, believe me I know. I am a shotgunning (or nova knifing on occasion) advanced scout. Being made of paper makes you very aware of your surroundings, staying profile dampened and flanking with that CreoDron is really deadly though.
meh.
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Ace Starburst
PiZzA DuDeS
74
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:18:00 -
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Commando, burn them all. |
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:27:00 -
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Commando gets 10%... It's 25% reload bonus
'Sorry Dakka, they're just so... Beautiful.' -cries-
Tits are my new god, as the Galscout has enlightened me.
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:44:00 -
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Just went Proto Min Scout today with the 2 mil SP plus some other stuff. Honestly try the Min Commando at at least basic and see if you like it enough to keep leveling it up. |
Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:57:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Commando gets 10%... It's 25% reload bonus
Commando's don't get the reload bonus, that's the assault your thinking of. When I said 25% I was referring to proficiency V + the 10% racial bonus.
meh.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1787
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:01:00 -
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Depends on your playstyle. I'm more of a scout type of guy so yeah. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:05:00 -
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Min Scout at advance PG is a problem. There's also a problem with its 3-2 layout, means you can either choose speed or stealth and not both. It'll also leave you paper thin if you choose to use a dam mod on the high, 290-306 eHP if you can use 2 complex extenders isn't great.
Min Scout at Proto is a better story. 2 damps and a kin cat should work wonders.
Here's my problem, the Scout min has a bonus to NK which is a Cal weapon. So you skill into NK (Cal) and then Min NK come out and the bonus changes and you've wasted SP in a weapon which isn't racially correct. There will be different types which different attacks types which means this could be a serious problem later.
Hit detection problems, No PG reduction skill yet on NK, and it forces you into a weapon (a dif races weapon) means i will hold off on skilling into it. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
49
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:06:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Just went Proto Min Scout today with the 2 mil SP plus some other stuff. Honestly try the Min Commando at at least basic and see if you like it enough to keep leveling it up.
This is a great point, if you can try it out. See if you like it. |
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Ace Boone
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:08:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:Min Scout at advance PG is a problem. There's also a problem with its 3-2 layout, means you can either choose speed or stealth and not both. It'll also leave you paper thin if you choose to use a dam mod on the high, 290-306 eHP if you can use 2 complex extenders isn't great.
Min Scout at Proto is a better story. 2 damps and a kin cat should work wonders.
Here's my problem, the Scout min has a bonus to NK which is a Cal weapon. So you skill into NK (Cal) and then Min NK come out and the bonus changes and you've wasted SP in a weapon which isn't racially correct. There will be different types which different attacks types which means this could be a serious problem later.
Hit detection problems, No PG reduction skill yet on NK, and it forces you into a weapon (a dif races weapon) means i will hold off on skilling into it.
I believe the minmitar is still receiving a bonus to NKs, but is also receiving a hacking bonus now.
meh.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:12:00 -
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http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/1327
must i say more?
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1432
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:39:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Commando gets 10%... It's 25% reload bonus Commando's don't get the reload bonus, that's the assault your thinking of. When I said 25% I was referring to proficiency V + the 10% racial bonus.
commandos get the 25% reload AND 10% damage to their racial weapons. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
139
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Posted - 2014.03.20 04:02:00 -
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Im going gal scout for my dren scout suit and cuz they will be hard to see, min comando for max dmg, easy to see, im also prof 5 in scrambler so ill have two set up mass driver and scrambler each sharing the combat rifle. Im still not sure for my third suit probably a heavy gal or caldary....
Quebec United CFO
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3571
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Posted - 2014.03.20 04:05:00 -
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Do you want to win ambushes, or skirmishes.
That's the only question you need ask.
No.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.20 04:22:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:snip
My go-to fit with this was gonna basically be this (I absolutely love the concept of this idea):
2x Complex shield extenders
1x Enhanced armor plate
1x PG upgrade (**** it)
K17/D repping nanohives
Boundless Combat Rifle
either EXO-5 mass driver or Freedom with proficiency V
snip
*Underlines the weapons three more times. Then highlights them. Finally circling them in red marker twice*
I love the toxic smell of Magic Marker.
While tactics are getting a big buff in 1.8 slaying is still important. With the Mass Driver you will be able to punish people who think they are going to shield skirmish you like they would Sentinels. No need to comment on the Combat Rifle. The only downside is your heart seems to lean towards the Minja. So my advice is weight what you simply enjoy playing verses which option will reach your goals. Define that and no SP will be wasted on your decision.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.03.20 04:27:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Do you want to win ambushes, or skirmishes.
That's the only question you need ask.
Right. I like the way you put it.
Scouts tend to stick to objectives. I can see a scout in a CQC socket in Ambush to flank, but most are open area so you'll have no dice there (well, it's not certain. Perhaps you can still pull it off).
Commando is more firepower.
Scout is movement and stealth. |
Ace Boone
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:46:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Ace Boone wrote:snip
My go-to fit with this was gonna basically be this (I absolutely love the concept of this idea):
2x Complex shield extenders
1x Enhanced armor plate
1x PG upgrade (**** it)
K17/D repping nanohives
Boundless Combat Rifle
either EXO-5 mass driver or Freedom with proficiency V
snip *Underlines the weapons three more times. Then highlights them. Finally circling them in red marker twice*I love the toxic smell of Magic Marker. While tactics are getting a big buff in 1.8 slaying is still important. With the Mass Driver you will be able to punish people who think they are going to shield skirmish you like they would Sentinels. No need to comment on the Combat Rifle. The only downside is your heart seems to lean towards the Minja. So my advice is weight what you simply enjoy playing verses which option will reach your goals. Define that and no SP will be wasted on your decision. Its not that i love minmitar, its just i love specialized roles. And minmitar is the best at just that.
meh.
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