2 and 3 are easily doable, but 1 May have a bit of a problem. Right now, the game limits each side to 5-6 vehicles. In order to do what you want, they will have to separate the tanks from other vehicles. Can probably still be done though. We will see. Hopefully ccp has a plan

Lower resistances.

Shorter durations, with the same cycles.

Increased hardener fitting requirements.

As I edited I dont know precisely about every durations and % of each modules.

Lower resistances for tanks or upper damages for AVs aren't the same thing in the end?

Increasing the fitting requirements or reducing the amount of PG/CPU isn't also the same thing?

then we may receive a new problem with stacked damage mods... though shield hardeners r a bit too effective.

could modify them. to slightly reduce the damage output of them maybe 25% idk...

as for that nerf for pg/cpu...no just an absolute no. it just makes it 100x harder for lower leveled players to fit their vehicles.


higher sp players who have put tons of sp into tanks and want to be invincible in their proto fit. would then get their wish from that. that already HUGE gap between tiers is difficult enough to overcome as is currently when not fully specced out in core skills. just makes the stomping worse for the new guy. something that needs to be toned down..

Hi everybody!

I've been playing DUST 514 for 1 year now so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Tanks used to be a bit squishy I have to say but since Uprising 1.7, they are absolutely dominating every battle.
Here is a couple of ideas that I think would make the game a way better:

- There should be a limit on how much tank there can be in a battle at the same moment. Let me explain that.. There are too many games that are getting completely screwed up because a team suddently drops 5 tanks at the same time. So what I think could be a solution to this spam is to reduce the number of tank in the battle to 1 or 2 tanks per team. If there are 2 tanks in a team, it would be impossible for any guy to call a 3rd one until one of the 2 gets destroyed. I know some people will think this is unfair for tankers but don't tell me that a tank as a same impact on the battlefield than an assault merc.

- Improve the power of the SWARM and the AV grenades so the infantry could fight against tank.

- Nerf the PG/CPU amount of Militia tanks so there will be a difference between a MLT and a STD tank.

These are 3 simple but I think efficient ideas to balance the game. Ho, and a MLT tank cost only 80k so dont tell me "But man, these are tanks! It's normal that they dominate the battlefield!" NOPE, it's not.

(Sorry for my bad english, I'm french so I tried my best to be as clear as I could)

Edit: Here I'm not talking about the hardners issue or that kind of things, because I'm not a tanker so I think someone specialized would do it better than me ^^
And also, there should'nt be vehicles in standard ambush mode (let's laugh at duna's face without its tanker team) .

Solution to vehicule : Full rework of active modules. (hardeners never was supposed to be double fitted.)
Faster swarm rockets.
Bigger AV damage (All the vehicules are STD !!!!!)

Not so really....you have to consider MLT as STD and STD as ADV...... otherwise where the hell are my proto HAV?

Nah, tanks are fine.

The maps could use some balance but then any map in any game could have the same said about it.

Cheap tanks mean more Mercs will try them earlier. Tanks suck SP and ISK. Big time when one is first learning. Those with AUR can buy decent enough tank fits (unlike before when a tank pack was mostly junk) to see if they want all that SP to go down the tank rabbit hole. And AUR will enable many to try out ADV and PRO turrets then it will boost the gains of SP that will be necessary.

Remember that LP is an effective counter to AUR functionality. Granted it is a definite grind but that is always the trade off between spending RW$ (Real World Cash) and mere effort in a F2P game.

While I dearly loved the older tanks and the new ones are boring to those that grew up on the others more tankers mean more are putting the effort and, hopefully, AUR into Dust.

If you have a full Team of tankers you will lose any encounter. You have to have troops on the ground until CCP/Shanghai decides to allow a Tank to have a module that will hack an objective from 50m. Through buildings and whatever else. That is a stupid idea and while they might match that level it is the only way to get full tank squad to win any match. My tanker alt never gets out to the tank. Death is nearly immediate and I would rather lose a 250KK tank to being stupid than gifting it to a Red.

I agree with you in some points, being a true tanker requires lots of SP (and also ISK), but it's the same for every other role in the game. I currently have 16M SP because I took a break for months and my assault class is not over yet! Problem with tank right now is that you dont need to put any SP in them to rock and to be invincible. So imagine for someone who only granted 2 or 3M sp!

You're also right when you say that a full team of tanker wont win the game if there ain't no infantry on the ground to capture everything. But why would they even care about winning? They do lots of kill, never die, ruin your game. And when the game is over, ok they lost. BUT they won everything! Their K/D ratio is intact, they didn't loose ISK, did a "good game". And what about us that are fighting on the ground? We had a horrible time being farmed by newbies, we lost lots of suits and the payback is nothing! So who's tjhe real looser here?