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TBdaBoss
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:47:00 -
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Gallente Scout, running:
Assault rifle: The weakest rifle variant.
Sub-machine gun: Don't yell at me; I must have been drunk or something. Either way, mag-sec will destroy this.
Scanners: 'bout to get nerfed hard.
Armor tanked: Seriously, I was drunk or something. But rail rifle>armor.
Even if I grab myself a cloak, will I be able to kill anything? 
Also, is Ion Pistol worth getting?
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Tectonic Fusion
1252
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:48:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Also, is Ion Pistol worth getting?
No.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
1049
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:50:00 -
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use a shield suit and stack shield then.
watch how quickly you run your ass back to gallente.
You survive more RR shots per militia plate than you do per complex shield extender.
In addition to having your max shield tank possible on non heavy suits melted in 4 shots by ScRs. With another shot to finish you off. All uncharged.
So yes, please go shield.
Please.
We need more fodder to eat up.
Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3177
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:55:00 -
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Ummm, Gallente is probably the most well-rounded, capable race in 1.8
I'm unimpressed with the Ion Pistol, but it's just a sidearm. Sidearms are greatly overrated here.
I GÖú Kittens.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8340
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:56:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Gallente Scout, running: Assault rifle: The weakest rifle variant. Sub-machine gun: Don't yell at me; I must have been drunk or something. Either way, mag-sec will destroy this. Scanners: 'bout to get nerfed hard. Armor tanked: Seriously, I was drunk or something. But rail rifle>armor. Even if I grab myself a cloak, will I be able to kill anything? Also, is Ion Pistol worth getting?
((Yeah Gall weapons need buffs))
At the same time its also what you get for choosing to represent the biggest scumbags and the worst humanity has to offer in Dust.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1757
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:03:00 -
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Um, run biotics?
And shotgun?
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
320
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:05:00 -
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Ion pistol ill get back to you on. I generally use scrambler pistols and knives but i will be trying the ion with 12k worth of sp. If i see potential, ill likely get good with the thing.
To be seen~
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
221
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:05:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Ummm, Gallente is probably the most well-rounded, capable race in 1.8
I'm unimpressed with the Ion Pistol, but it's just a sidearm. Sidearms are greatly overrated here.
Say that to my Scrambler Pistol's face! Or my Nova Knive's... um... hilt? 
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2696
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:16:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:use a shield suit and stack shield then.
watch how quickly you run your ass back to gallente.
You survive more RR shots per militia plate than you do per complex shield extender.
In addition to having your max shield tank possible on non heavy suits melted in 4 shots by ScRs. With another shot to finish you off. All uncharged.
So yes, please go shield.
Please.
We need more fodder to eat up.
Oh my god. Does it always come down to which suit is worst? Can a gall enter suit user ever complain without a Caldari user jumping up our bums?
The OP is wrong, about everything about the Gallente Scout. I use it, it's great but only if used properly.
You want a bad Gallente suit? Try the Assault. It's hands down the worst Assault suit, stats wise and performance wise and will only be worst in 1.8?
Because at least right now, it can be slightly useful at lower tiers. The Minmatar assault is bad now, but will become good after 1.8
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4679
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:30:00 -
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All the Gallante Suits are competitive. The Logi, heavy and scout are all close to(if not actually are) the best suits in their class. The "worst" suit is the Assault and even then it is in a three way tie with the Caldari and Amarr Assault.
Plasma Cannon is good but only at at least advanced level.
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Scanners are still good (and are going to be very important in 1.8).
The AR is good if your latency and frame rare are good (unless you fight a CR in CQC).
The Ion Pistol is garbage, so much so that CCP is getting rid of the Assault Scrambler Pistol so it doesn't outshine it.
So yeah, Gallante suits are in a really good place right now. Both.the Shotgun and AR are competitive. The Plasma Cannon is good if you have a sidearm and you practice. The only thing weighing us down is the Ion Pistol, which I'm liable to use as a paper weight.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
517
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:32:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Gallente Scout, running: Assault rifle: The weakest rifle variant. Sub-machine gun: Don't yell at me; I must have been drunk or something. Either way, mag-sec will destroy this. Scanners: 'bout to get nerfed hard. Armor tanked: Seriously, I was drunk or something. But rail rifle>armor. Even if I grab myself a cloak, will I be able to kill anything? Also, is Ion Pistol worth getting?
- not disagreeing
- not disagreeing, but I wouldn't you use the word "destroy"
- Scanners: been a long time coming, don't try to pretend it's a gallente thing
- Shield tanked: ScR, PR > shields
- If your are good, probably. If you are bad, probably not
- My magic 8-ball says "ask again later" after the patch
32db Mad Bomber.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1563
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:36:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Amazing how a guy can make one good point after another, then say come out and something downright ********. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4679
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:38:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:use a shield suit and stack shield then.
watch how quickly you run your ass back to gallente.
You survive more RR shots per militia plate than you do per complex shield extender.
In addition to having your max shield tank possible on non heavy suits melted in 4 shots by ScRs. With another shot to finish you off. All uncharged.
So yes, please go shield.
Please.
We need more fodder to eat up. Oh my god. Does it always come down to which suit is worst? Can a gall enter suit user ever complain without a Caldari user jumping up our bums? The OP is wrong, about everything about the Gallente Scout. I use it, it's great but only if used properly. You want a bad Gallente suit? Try the Assault. It's hands down the worst Assault suit, stats wise and performance wise and will only be worst in 1.8? Because at least right now, it can be slightly useful at lower tiers. The Minmatar assault is bad now, but will become good after 1.8
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4679
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:39:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Amazing how a guy can make one good point after another, then say come out and something downright ********.
It is in a good place. Honestly I do better with the Shotgun than with most other weapons. I don't know why you dislike it.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1564
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Amazing how a guy can make one good point after another, then say come out and something downright ********. It is in a good place. Honestly I do better with the Shotgun than with most other weapons. I don't know why you dislike it.
Objective:
* Choose between Options A and B.
Given:
* DPS(A) = DPS(B)
* Range(A) = 4 meters
* Range(B) = Range(A) * 20
Lightning, Fusion, Tranq, Demzor, Marauder and many others defy Mathematics every day and manage to make Option A look good. Imagine how much more bada** they could've been had they opted for Option B. Imagine what they could've accomplished with a Fine Rifle ... equivalent DPS without the 4 meter range restriction. |
Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
594
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:51:00 -
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Freedom sucks. Cold calculated efficiency from Caldari tech will always be the best.
FOR THE STATE!!!
"Military training is preferable, but anyone who can fly a plane would be useful."
"I can fly. I'm pilot."
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4681
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:59:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:
Objective:
* Choose between Options A and B.
Given:
* DPS(A) = DPS(B)
* Range(A) = 4 meters
* Range(B) = Range(A) * 20
Lightning, Fusion, Tranq, Demzor, Marauder and many others defy Mathematics and have managed to make Option A look good. These Scouts have earned my respect. Imagine how bada** they could've been had they opted for Option B. Equal DPS without a 4 meter range restriction.
If you ADS you get like 15m. It's actually pretty fun shooting at people if you ADS. The damage drop is pretty bad but if you get head shots then you can get pretty consistent kills.
I don't know, I just use the Shotgun as if I'm playing COD and I do good.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1564
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:
Objective:
* Choose between Options A and B.
Given:
* DPS(A) = DPS(B)
* Range(A) = 4 meters
* Range(B) = Range(A) * 20
Lightning, Fusion, Tranq, Demzor, Marauder and many others defy Mathematics and have managed to make Option A look good. These Scouts have earned my respect. Imagine how bada** they could've been had they opted for Option B. Equal DPS without a 4 meter range restriction. If you ADS you get like 15m. It's actually pretty fun shooting at people if you ADS. The damage drop is pretty bad but if you get head shots then you can get pretty consistent kills. I don't know, I just use the Shotgun as if I'm playing COD and I do good.
I can't tell you the last time I tried to ADS with a Shotgun.
I'll give it a go next time I'm online.
Maybe test it out with a colleague.
If it works, we'll be in touch.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
1058
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:use a shield suit and stack shield then.
watch how quickly you run your ass back to gallente.
You survive more RR shots per militia plate than you do per complex shield extender.
In addition to having your max shield tank possible on non heavy suits melted in 4 shots by ScRs. With another shot to finish you off. All uncharged.
So yes, please go shield.
Please.
We need more fodder to eat up. Oh my god. Does it always come down to which suit is worst? Can a gallente suit user ever complain without a Caldari user jumping up our bums? The OP is wrong, about everything about the Gallente Scout. I use it, it's great but only if used properly. You want a bad Gallente suit? Try the Assault. It's hands down the worst Assault suit, stats wise and performance wise and will only be worst in 1.8? Because at least right now, it can be slightly useful at lower tiers. The Minmatar assault is bad now, but will become good after 1.8
Gallente assault? BAD? LOLOLOLOLOL
Tell that to the 860 armor triage hive gallente assaults with proto weapons.
Gallente is currently the best scout,logi,and assault.
Minmatar is the worst, amarr has competition with the gallente for the assault, but the logi falls behind as competition for the minlogi.
Overall the gallente logi will be the best logi in 1.8 cus they'll be the only viable scanner users, best heavy in 1.8 with the best resistances and EHP in addition to being repped by triage hives(in PC they're everywhere). GalAssaults have arguably the best bonus in 1.8(AR, is a cqc weapon, ever heard of steady aim in COD? the hipfire bonus is insane. Minmatar has a decent bonus but since it cant do its 11round MD and 8 round flaylock because they fixed the bonus, its now going to get ****** by its garbage ehp.)
AmarrAssaults bonus is rather garbo now that damage mods and prof useless, utterly neutering the ScRs ability to kill heavies, which will be dominant.
CalAssaluts are LOL.
GalScouts will also be the best scout MOST LIKELY due to being able to easily beat the Gallogi scanners without much sacrifice.
So ya
gallente has not a single ******* right in hell to complain unless its about the weapons. Gal suits are king for every class.
Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4682
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:09:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:
Objective:
* Choose between Options A and B.
Given:
* DPS(A) = DPS(B)
* Range(A) = 4 meters
* Range(B) = Range(A) * 20
Lightning, Fusion, Tranq, Demzor, Marauder and many others defy Mathematics and have managed to make Option A look good. These Scouts have earned my respect. Imagine how bada** they could've been had they opted for Option B. Equal DPS without a 4 meter range restriction. If you ADS you get like 15m. It's actually pretty fun shooting at people if you ADS. The damage drop is pretty bad but if you get head shots then you can get pretty consistent kills. I don't know, I just use the Shotgun as if I'm playing COD and I do good. I can't tell you the last time I tried to ADS with a Shotgun. I'll give it a go next time I'm online. Maybe test it out on Oceania to see if it extends the 4-5 meter optimal. If it works, we'll be in touch.
Fair warning the ADS on the Shotgun is extremely slow, slowest in game actually. As funny as it sounds, you will need to lead your shot before you ADS.
Good luck though, ;)
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
154
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:13:00 -
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gallente frames are EZ mode. Stop crying
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Rusty Shallows
1141
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:30:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Amazing how a guy can make one good point after another, then say come out and something downright ********. It is in a good place. Honestly I do better with the Shotgun than with most other weapons. I don't know why you dislike it.
What about post-1.8? Right now I die readily enough to shotguns in a Sentinel with one complex plate. If shotgun fits were relying on stacked complex damage mods then they are in serious trouble.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2696
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:51:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Shotgun is in a really good place.
Amazing how a guy can make one good point after another, then say come out and something downright ********. It is in a good place. Honestly I do better with the Shotgun than with most other weapons. I don't know why you dislike it. What about post-1.8? Right now I die readily enough to shotguns in a Sentinel with one complex plate. If shotgun fits were relying on stacked complex damage mods then they are in serious trouble.
I don't use dmg mods, it's just not worth it IMO.
I can drop a MLT heavy in 3 shots, and a tanked heavy in 4. It's usually not worth trying to engage a Proto sentinel. They usually carry boundless HMGs(which just rip through any scout in a second) and they usually have a Logi plugged into they bums(which is smart) or stick with a group, or watch entrances and are very aware of the environment.
Basically, most heavies who run Proto know what they are doing. You really have to get the jump on them to take'rm out.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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