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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:07:00 -
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I mean, will cal scout hide only with cloak? As i calculated, he will need 2 damps (compx and std?) to get below gall scanner (this with base 28) and below Cal scout pssive (with 1compx amp). Am i right or i've done math worng?
And lastly, will cal scout be viable with kin cats?(only two lows, which are need for scan range and damps?) |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:09:00 -
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Check my list here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147844&find=unread |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:11:00 -
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Don't worry about scanners much. I doubt people will use them much since they'll need to be Gallente AND won't have 360s.
I think you'll be good with one enhanced dampner for non-logis. |
Mejt0
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:15:00 -
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Thanks, but on my phone i cant understand few numbers (theyre in different lines,etc. Gotta see it on pc) |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:15:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Don't worry about scanners much. I doubt people will use them much since they'll need to be Gallente AND won't have 360s.
I think you'll be good with one enhanced dampner for non-logis.
Idk, nyain san man....3 prox scannera or 3 dfas
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:19:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Joel II X wrote:Don't worry about scanners much. I doubt people will use them much since they'll need to be Gallente AND won't have 360s.
I think you'll be good with one enhanced dampner for non-logis. Idk, nyain san man....3 prox scannera or 3 dfas
I haven't played against them in a while. They must be in Ambush inside tanks. |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:21:00 -
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So still my cal scout will be scanned by other cal scout with cloak off. If they will scan each other then i will think about gal.
Gues ill see in 1.8 how things will look. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Joel II X wrote:Don't worry about scanners much. I doubt people will use them much since they'll need to be Gallente AND won't have 360s.
I think you'll be good with one enhanced dampner for non-logis. Idk, nyain san man....3 prox scannera or 3 dfas I haven't played against them in a while. They must be in Ambush inside tanks.
Yep
I play ambush fir sp
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:42:00 -
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With a proto and enhanced damp, you can dodge everything bar a caldari scout or Gallogi with duvoll focused scanner.
Table (Not mine, forgot source)
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:49:00 -
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I'm not pleased with the relationship between the hider (damps) and finder (precision).
At high levels (i.e. low values, more damped, more precise) the burden should fall to the hider to stay hidden. At low levels (i.e. high values, not very good damps, not very precises) the burden should fall to the finder to scan his target.
This is purely opinion, and I believe it would be a better model than we have currently.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:52:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I'm not pleased with the relationship between the hider (damps) and finder (precision).
At high levels (i.e. low values, more damped, more precise) the burden should fall to the hider to stay hidden. At low levels (i.e. high values, not very good damps, not very precises) the burden should fall to the finder to scan his target.
This is purely opinion, and I believe it would be a better model than we have currently.
English please?
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Python,
Scout.
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:56:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I'm not pleased with the relationship between the hider (damps) and finder (precision).
At high levels (i.e. low values, more damped, more precise) the burden should fall to the hider to stay hidden. At low levels (i.e. high values, not very good damps, not very precises) the burden should fall to the finder to scan his target.
This is purely opinion, and I believe it would be a better model than we have currently.
Look at the table I linked. Outside the Gal scout, it's pretty balanced: 4 complex dampeners to beat 4 complex enhancers, and even before that, it takes 2 damps to beat 1 enhancer.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:27:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I'm not pleased with the relationship between the hider (damps) and finder (precision).
At high levels (i.e. low values, more damped, more precise) the burden should fall to the hider to stay hidden. At low levels (i.e. high values, not very good damps, not very precises) the burden should fall to the finder to scan his target.
This is purely opinion, and I believe it would be a better model than we have currently. Look at the table I linked. Outside the Gal scout, it's pretty balanced: 4 complex dampeners to beat 4 complex enhancers, and even before that, it takes 2 damps to beat 1 enhancer.
This is literally the opposite of the way I said I would like it done.
I'm not sure how to make it more English than the English I used to post it, jerrmy. And look, I've seen your posting. It doesn't exactly embodied proper English grammar and idea conveyance.
At high levels of performance, like scouts, a max skilled Cal scout should always be able to see a max skilled Gal scout. If the Gal scout adds a damp, he should be hidden. If the Cal scout adds an enhancer, he should see the Gal scout with the damp. The burden should be to stay hidden
At low levels of performance, like heavy suits, a max skilled anything should always be able to hide from a max skilled anything else that sucks at passive scanning. If the second player fits an enhancer, he should be able to see the first. If the first then fits a damp, he should be hidden again. The burden should be to find.
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