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C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:10:00 - [31] - Quote The system that controls EVE really? Just because you want to have the Gal bonus on the Amarr scout you make 15 posts a day. You post a challenge, i posted a reply then you abandon thread to make more nonsense. The Amarr scout isn't the Gal eWar specialist but you can certainly build a Amarr Scout which utilizes the 2 dampens re to get under everyone radar. I don't see why you're not complaining about why Amarr can't be like the Min or Cal. And only a baby cries because he is forced to pick a certain class, grow up if you don't like something then don't do it. Want to complain about how fast or far you can run, a fatty in a LAV will beat you there. Complain about not reaching objective after spawning, only noobs runs to the first objective. Don't want to play FW or Skirmish, well the Min Scout racial bonus is then far useless (what if you don't want to be forced into picking NK - which new knifes will be made later and could f* up your Min Scout completely). Don't feel your scan radius is great enough, have a teammate run scanners on their Cal Scout or Gal Logi. Want passive reps, use one of the many low slots to get it. It seems you want the Amarr Scout to have everything. This is utter bullshit. Your complaints are weak and tiresome. You simply compare the Gal to the Amarr and * the Amarr can't excel in a niche made for another class, when in fact it does a great job at it. Want to complain how the Cal and Min can't excel at those roles either?!? I didn't think so. Want to say a light frame can use a cloak, no ** use one on a logi.. New Logi slayer thst have cloaks., serious stuff. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/810 yea, and if you dropped card cat for another Dampener because you feel stamina is so so weak then you can have your cake and eat it too. I would like to point out something, when you compare suits and say how skilled you are why are you comparing Proto suits, while I seem to compare the advanced suits? Do you really need to be rocking Proto with such elite skill.? How can the Cal as out cover less ground when your parameters are it needs to run 2 dampen era... It would give the Cal 0 slots of a card cat or a kin cat. It seems you just make up bullshit and keep changing the parameters of everything to show Gal scout get 0.2 more speed and a better scan radius and 2 reps per second better for trade offs of large amount of stamina, some eHP, some shield regen and some stamina regen. The differences are marginal at best, and thst is the point... Keep suits differences marginal. How a, I suppose to prove it, i posted proof in other threads and you pricks just abandon them. I showed you a very comparable build. I shown you that Cal and Mincan't compete at these ridiculous parameters you morons keep changing. And clearly if you're going to race to an objective you jump into a LAV. I don't see you comparing about anything but now the Amarr cannot excel at someone else's niche, and it can. Use two dampeners while Gal uses a Dampener and a cardiac, it's the same damn thing at advanced and its close enough at Proto. And why you you "skilled" Amarr super-race guys running Proto suits?!? You shouldn't need them, advanced suits are just fine. Make a new thread ask for proof and abandon it. It's how this quantity over quality stuff works right? Your Amarr Scout is fine, so stfu about how its this disaster and CCP should be shot, it's simply not the case.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8288	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:18:00 - [32] - Quote C0TS wrote: The system that controls EVE really? Just because you want to have the Gal bonus on the Amarr scout you make 15 posts a day. You post a challenge, i posted a reply then you abandon thread to make more nonsense. The Amarr scout isn't the Gal eWar specialist but you can certainly build a Amarr Scout which utilizes the 2 dampens re to get under everyone radar. I don't see why you're not complaining about why Amarr can't be like the Min or Cal. And only a baby cries because he is forced to pick a certain class, grow up if you don't like something then don't do it. Want to complain about how fast or far you can run, a fatty in a LAV will beat you there. Complain about not reaching objective after spawning, only noobs runs to the first objective. Don't want to play FW or Skirmish, well the Min Scout racial bonus is then far useless (what if you don't want to be forced into picking NK - which new knifes will be made later and could f* up your Min Scout completely). Don't feel your scan radius is great enough, have a teammate run scanners on their Cal Scout or Gal Logi. Want passive reps, use one of the many low slots to get it. It seems you want the Amarr Scout to have everything. This is utter bullshit. Your complaints are weak and tiresome. You simply compare the Gal to the Amarr and * the Amarr can't excel in a niche made for another class, when in fact it does a great job at it. Want to complain how the Cal and Min can't excel at those roles either?!? I didn't think so. Want to say a light frame can use a cloak, no ** use one on a logi.. New Logi slayer thst have cloaks., serious stuff. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/810 yea, and if you dropped card cat for another Dampener because you feel stamina is so so weak then you can have your cake and eat it too. I would like to point out something, when you compare suits and say how skilled you are why are you comparing Proto suits, while I seem to compare the advanced suits? Do you really need to be rocking Proto with such elite skill.? How can the Cal as out cover less ground when your parameters are it needs to run 2 dampen era... It would give the Cal 0 slots of a card cat or a kin cat. It seems you just make up bullshit and keep changing the parameters of everything to show Gal scout get 0.2 more speed and a better scan radius and 2 reps per second better for trade offs of large amount of stamina, some eHP, some shield regen and some stamina regen. The differences are marginal at best, and thst is the point... Keep suits differences marginal. How a, I suppose to prove it, i posted proof in other threads and you pricks just abandon them. I showed you a very comparable build. I shown you that Cal and Mincan't compete at these ridiculous parameters you morons keep changing. And clearly if you're going to race to an objective you jump into a LAV. I don't see you comparing about anything but now the Amarr cannot excel at someone else's niche, and it can. Use two dampeners while Gal uses a Dampener and a cardiac, it's the same damn thing at advanced and its close enough at Proto. And why you you "skilled" Amarr super-race guys running Proto suits?!? You shouldn't need them, advanced suits are just fine. Make a new thread ask for proof and abandon it. It's how this quantity over quality stuff works right? Your Amarr Scout is fine, so stfu about how its this disaster and CCP should be shot, it's simply not the case. Amarr do EWAR as well except in dust Tracking disruption is not a possible mechanic to implement. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:28:00 - [33] - Quote If you wanted a balanced Scout class: Min Adv suits would get 2 PG more, NK for Min would be released and have a PG reduction skill. Min Adv would excel if given the 2-3 instead of the 3-2 at advanced. Is its base speed high enough, probably but people who run it still want more speed because it is suppose to be fastest. NK running and charge should be fixed, but there should be 3 more NK to come and we shall see how they differ or add to the classes effectiveness. The cloak should help the Min Scut most because it needs to be within a very short range to use its racial bonus. Amateur suits would get 7% instead of 5% to stamina and stamina regen. This isn't the end of the world post 25 threads kinda problem. There are so so many serious issues in the game, this shouldn't be the focus. The advanced suit stacks up against the Gal and surpasses the Min and Cal if you are playing your challenge games, it does great work at a variety of things and while it doesn't excel at the gal or cal niche's you're not suppose to. It's like complaining it doesn't have the NK power the Min Scout do' it's not suppose to. The Gal Logi should be the scanning king, maybe providing 3-3- and not 4-2 would give the cal Scout more flexibility and balance. At 4-2 it can pack a huge punch from precision scanning, or be used as a huge light infantry shield tank. The low slots give more flexibility for the various scout roles, not saying the Cal won't be the best scout but it could mean a very different 1.8 for those who utilize the Cal Scout to its fullest. I feel that the Cal scout is the best option for those who run in squad, 3 precision and a extender can make this scout king. 3-3 might lower its effectiveness, but placing a value on a logi gal to spec into what it's designed to specialize in should be the goal. The gal scout has really no issue with, you seem to take issue with its niche of being the opposite to the Cal and staying off radar. Thats its niche thats its role, you seem not to like the 4 reps a second, yes its a good thing for the suit but it's not game changing. At advanced it stacks up against the Amarr, at Proto it can use a Proto cardiac while the Amarr is forced to use a Dampener. Its a trade off, unless you feel that a second Dampener won't be required or if youdon't want to use a card cat on gal there can be more options. A 2-4 layout is ideal at Proto and a 2-3 is ideal at advanced which it shares with Amarr. I don't think Proto fits has the right scanning range but if you feel like you need some scanning precision you can opt to use 1 (c) on the highs for added awareness but again it should be your squads job to help you with that.
C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:30:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: C0TS wrote: The system that controls EVE really? Just because you want to have the Gal bonus on the Amarr scout you make 15 posts a day. You post a challenge, i posted a reply then you abandon thread to make more nonsense. The Amarr scout isn't the Gal eWar specialist but you can certainly build a Amarr Scout which utilizes the 2 dampens re to get under everyone radar. I don't see why you're not complaining about why Amarr can't be like the Min or Cal. And only a baby cries because he is forced to pick a certain class, grow up if you don't like something then don't do it. Want to complain about how fast or far you can run, a fatty in a LAV will beat you there. Complain about not reaching objective after spawning, only noobs runs to the first objective. Don't want to play FW or Skirmish, well the Min Scout racial bonus is then far useless (what if you don't want to be forced into picking NK - which new knifes will be made later and could f* up your Min Scout completely). Don't feel your scan radius is great enough, have a teammate run scanners on their Cal Scout or Gal Logi. Want passive reps, use one of the many low slots to get it. It seems you want the Amarr Scout to have everything. This is utter bullshit. Your complaints are weak and tiresome. You simply compare the Gal to the Amarr and * the Amarr can't excel in a niche made for another class, when in fact it does a great job at it. Want to complain how the Cal and Min can't excel at those roles either?!? I didn't think so. Want to say a light frame can use a cloak, no ** use one on a logi.. New Logi slayer thst have cloaks., serious stuff. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/810 yea, and if you dropped card cat for another Dampener because you feel stamina is so so weak then you can have your cake and eat it too. I would like to point out something, when you compare suits and say how skilled you are why are you comparing Proto suits, while I seem to compare the advanced suits? Do you really need to be rocking Proto with such elite skill.? How can the Cal as out cover less ground when your parameters are it needs to run 2 dampen era... It would give the Cal 0 slots of a card cat or a kin cat. It seems you just make up bullshit and keep changing the parameters of everything to show Gal scout get 0.2 more speed and a better scan radius and 2 reps per second better for trade offs of large amount of stamina, some eHP, some shield regen and some stamina regen. The differences are marginal at best, and thst is the point... Keep suits differences marginal. How a, I suppose to prove it, i posted proof in other threads and you pricks just abandon them. I showed you a very comparable build. I shown you that Cal and Mincan't compete at these ridiculous parameters you morons keep changing. And clearly if you're going to race to an objective you jump into a LAV. I don't see you comparing about anything but now the Amarr cannot excel at someone else's niche, and it can. Use two dampeners while Gal uses a Dampener and a cardiac, it's the same damn thing at advanced and its close enough at Proto. And why you you "skilled" Amarr super-race guys running Proto suits?!? You shouldn't need them, advanced suits are just fine. Make a new thread ask for proof and abandon it. It's how this quantity over quality stuff works right? Your Amarr Scout is fine, so stfu about how its this disaster and CCP should be shot, it's simply not the case. Amarr do EWAR as well except in dust Tracking disruption is not a possible mechanic to implement. We also do Energy neuting well too. Saying the Amarr don't do Ewar is ignorant and wrong. You can do eWar. You have a 2-4 slot layout. That can be precision enchanter plus extender on highs. 2 dampeners plus whatever on lows. That gives you 2 lows to play with, keeps you at the top in eWar game. No one can see you and you can see most everyone.
C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:34:00 - [35] - Quote Also, last thing. The topic is those who are bashing Amarr. It seems you two are the only ones bashing it. If you do what I did and compared all the suits at adv and at Proto type given 3 builds each the stats are comparable throughout the class. Build a cookie cutter, build a specialist and then build to make it like another scout. In all cases at advanced the Amarr, Cal and agal out shine the Min. In their specialist role, sure the Amarr can't compete with Cal and Gal at their niches but neither can the Min. The Amarr stacks up well its just a trade off its racial bonus is a std card and at Proto suit when Amarr grabs a Complex Dampener to match the gal at eWar then the Gal grabs a complex Cardiac to match.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8290	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:35:00 - [36] - Quote C0TS wrote: True Adamance wrote: C0TS wrote: The system that controls EVE really? Just because you want to have the Gal bonus on the Amarr scout you make 15 posts a day. You post a challenge, i posted a reply then you abandon thread to make more nonsense. The Amarr scout isn't the Gal eWar specialist but you can certainly build a Amarr Scout which utilizes the 2 dampens re to get under everyone radar. I don't see why you're not complaining about why Amarr can't be like the Min or Cal. And only a baby cries because he is forced to pick a certain class, grow up if you don't like something then don't do it. Want to complain about how fast or far you can run, a fatty in a LAV will beat you there. Complain about not reaching objective after spawning, only noobs runs to the first objective. Don't want to play FW or Skirmish, well the Min Scout racial bonus is then far useless (what if you don't want to be forced into picking NK - which new knifes will be made later and could f* up your Min Scout completely). Don't feel your scan radius is great enough, have a teammate run scanners on their Cal Scout or Gal Logi. Want passive reps, use one of the many low slots to get it. It seems you want the Amarr Scout to have everything. This is utter bullshit. Your complaints are weak and tiresome. You simply compare the Gal to the Amarr and * the Amarr can't excel in a niche made for another class, when in fact it does a great job at it. Want to complain how the Cal and Min can't excel at those roles either?!? I didn't think so. Want to say a light frame can use a cloak, no ** use one on a logi.. New Logi slayer thst have cloaks., serious stuff. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/810 yea, and if you dropped card cat for another Dampener because you feel stamina is so so weak then you can have your cake and eat it too. I would like to point out something, when you compare suits and say how skilled you are why are you comparing Proto suits, while I seem to compare the advanced suits? Do you really need to be rocking Proto with such elite skill.? How can the Cal as out cover less ground when your parameters are it needs to run 2 dampen era... It would give the Cal 0 slots of a card cat or a kin cat. It seems you just make up bullshit and keep changing the parameters of everything to show Gal scout get 0.2 more speed and a better scan radius and 2 reps per second better for trade offs of large amount of stamina, some eHP, some shield regen and some stamina regen. The differences are marginal at best, and thst is the point... Keep suits differences marginal. How a, I suppose to prove it, i posted proof in other threads and you pricks just abandon them. I showed you a very comparable build. I shown you that Cal and Mincan't compete at these ridiculous parameters you morons keep changing. And clearly if you're going to race to an objective you jump into a LAV. I don't see you comparing about anything but now the Amarr cannot excel at someone else's niche, and it can. Use two dampeners while Gal uses a Dampener and a cardiac, it's the same damn thing at advanced and its close enough at Proto. And why you you "skilled" Amarr super-race guys running Proto suits?!? You shouldn't need them, advanced suits are just fine. Make a new thread ask for proof and abandon it. It's how this quantity over quality stuff works right? Your Amarr Scout is fine, so stfu about how its this disaster and CCP should be shot, it's simply not the case. Amarr do EWAR as well except in dust Tracking disruption is not a possible mechanic to implement. We also do Energy neuting well too. Saying the Amarr don't do Ewar is ignorant and wrong. You can do eWar. You have a 2-4 slot layout. That can be precision enchanter plus extender on highs. 2 dampeners plus whatever on lows. That gives you 2 lows to play with, keeps you at the top in eWar game. No one can see you and you can see most everyone. However my point is that this is not represented in out bonus. That's all I'm saying. Each scout in the game besides the Amarr scout has an Ewar bonus of some sorts. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 507	Posted - 2014.03.16 22:45:00 - [37] - Quote I blame you lot for the ****** bonuses that the assaults collectively received. 32db Mad Bomber.
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 759	Posted - 2014.03.16 23:12:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: C0TS wrote: True Adamance wrote: C0TS wrote: The system that controls EVE really? Just because you want to have the Gal bonus on the Amarr scout you make 15 posts a day. You post a challenge, i posted a reply then you abandon thread to make more nonsense. The Amarr scout isn't the Gal eWar specialist but you can certainly build a Amarr Scout which utilizes the 2 dampens re to get under everyone radar. I don't see why you're not complaining about why Amarr can't be like the Min or Cal. And only a baby cries because he is forced to pick a certain class, grow up if you don't like something then don't do it. Want to complain about how fast or far you can run, a fatty in a LAV will beat you there. Complain about not reaching objective after spawning, only noobs runs to the first objective. Don't want to play FW or Skirmish, well the Min Scout racial bonus is then far useless (what if you don't want to be forced into picking NK - which new knifes will be made later and could f* up your Min Scout completely). Don't feel your scan radius is great enough, have a teammate run scanners on their Cal Scout or Gal Logi. Want passive reps, use one of the many low slots to get it. It seems you want the Amarr Scout to have everything. This is utter bullshit. Your complaints are weak and tiresome. You simply compare the Gal to the Amarr and * the Amarr can't excel in a niche made for another class, when in fact it does a great job at it. Want to complain how the Cal and Min can't excel at those roles either?!? I didn't think so. Want to say a light frame can use a cloak, no ** use one on a logi.. New Logi slayer thst have cloaks., serious stuff. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/0/810 yea, and if you dropped card cat for another Dampener because you feel stamina is so so weak then you can have your cake and eat it too. I would like to point out something, when you compare suits and say how skilled you are why are you comparing Proto suits, while I seem to compare the advanced suits? Do you really need to be rocking Proto with such elite skill.? How can the Cal as out cover less ground when your parameters are it needs to run 2 dampen era... It would give the Cal 0 slots of a card cat or a kin cat. It seems you just make up bullshit and keep changing the parameters of everything to show Gal scout get 0.2 more speed and a better scan radius and 2 reps per second better for trade offs of large amount of stamina, some eHP, some shield regen and some stamina regen. The differences are marginal at best, and thst is the point... Keep suits differences marginal. How a, I suppose to prove it, i posted proof in other threads and you pricks just abandon them. I showed you a very comparable build. I shown you that Cal and Mincan't compete at these ridiculous parameters you morons keep changing. And clearly if you're going to race to an objective you jump into a LAV. I don't see you comparing about anything but now the Amarr cannot excel at someone else's niche, and it can. Use two dampeners while Gal uses a Dampener and a cardiac, it's the same damn thing at advanced and its close enough at Proto. And why you you "skilled" Amarr super-race guys running Proto suits?!? You shouldn't need them, advanced suits are just fine. Make a new thread ask for proof and abandon it. It's how this quantity over quality stuff works right? Your Amarr Scout is fine, so stfu about how its this disaster and CCP should be shot, it's simply not the case. Amarr do EWAR as well except in dust Tracking disruption is not a possible mechanic to implement. We also do Energy neuting well too. Saying the Amarr don't do Ewar is ignorant and wrong. You can do eWar. You have a 2-4 slot layout. That can be precision enchanter plus extender on highs. 2 dampeners plus whatever on lows. That gives you 2 lows to play with, keeps you at the top in eWar game. No one can see you and you can see most everyone. However my point is that this is not represented in out bonus. That's all I'm saying. Each scout in the game besides the Amarr scout has an Ewar bonus of some sorts. All scouts have an EWAR bonus. Your scan prescision is 40, your scan profile is 36, your scan range is 20 and your hacking speed is 1.05. Knowledge is power
LT Shanx OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 38	Posted - 2014.03.16 23:30:00 - [39] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Since 5.14.14? Yup, the Amarr are dumb. Also, why the hell did you choose Amarr then if you're only going to bash your own race that has been handpicked by the Lord as most favorable? What are you talking about? Down with the Amarr!
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2380	Posted - 2014.03.16 23:30:00 - [40] - Quote I wanted to give a like but I triple clicked and the forum took it away soo you'll just gotta settle for a +1 Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(



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