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        |  Draxus Prime
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 3340
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:09:00 -
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 I missed a lot
 Also haven't played a PC in a bit
 
 "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/ | 
      
      
        |  Ivar Iosef
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 41
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:26:00 -
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 Standard loldrama.
 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 
 Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch. [GI4NT] <3XXXD> | 
      
      
        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 11122
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:28:00 -
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 This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 
 You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. | 
      
      
        |  Maximus Stryker
 Who Are Those Guys
 
 868
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:38:00 -
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 Depending on your POV, either Strategery or Betrayal
 
 
 Faction Channels for FW Staging PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari | 
      
      
        |  Ivar Iosef
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 41
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:56:00 -
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 Betrayal is never a strategy man....
 
 If they had said to us after we flew with them, "Look NAP's done, we've got a better offer," none of this loldrama would have ever happened. Business is business after all.
 
 Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch. [GI4NT] <3XXXD> | 
      
      
        |  Kain Spero
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 3007
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 15:11:00 -
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 NF fulfilled all of its contractual obligations to Tso's and was under no obligation to inform you of no longer needing your services. I'll be sure next time to send you guys a pink slip.
 
 Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news | 
      
      
        |  NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm
 Expert Intervention
 Caldari State
 
 77
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 15:43:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'.
 
 They completely blitzed us.
 
 In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.
  
 45 player match I'm obviously not who you think I am | 
      
      
        |  AP Grasshopper
 Ancient Exiles.
 Renegade Alliance
 
 204
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 17:15:00 -
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 llama drama
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        |  Heimdallr69
 Heaven's Lost Property
 
 1861
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 17:18:00 -
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 It's all about who pays... That's the point of being a merc but somewhere along the line you guys forgot that.
 
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        |  DJINN Marauder
 Ancient Exiles.
 Renegade Alliance
 
 4528
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 17:22:00 -
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 NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   I love them
  
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        |  iTbagyou
 Expert Intervention
 Caldari State
 
 240
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 17:46:00 -
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 NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   
 I dont know why you're seemingly caught off guard by this. Only thing that shocked me was it took a day or two for it to happen.
 
 Either or. Will work for isk
 
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        |  Heimdallr69
 Heaven's Lost Property
 
 1861
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 17:46:00 -
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 NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   That's what happens when dumb asses make threads about taking out NS...
 If you're threatened by war then wouldn't you take the offensive to try and wipe out the other side?
 
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        |  Dr PepperPoP
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 336
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:11:00 -
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 Ivar Iosef wrote:Standard loldrama. 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 FYI - for anyone who attempts to work with Tso again, please be warned that a Tso pilot *Cough Voodoo cough cough* Will shoot and blow up your OB ship that is blue regardless. Don't ask for compensation for friendly fire either, you didn't protect yourself and died, that's your fault, not his.
 
 NAP or no NAP - Voodoo will kill you. Then he'll blame the other side for breaking agreements, while also not showing to matches and still expecting pay.
 
 Sad part is i'm not even trolling. Ivar really did friendly fire then accuse us of being future traitors. LOL
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        |  God Hates Lags
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1012
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:22:00 -
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 Ivar Iosef wrote:
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 
 
 To be fair it is the Ides of March. We should have seen this coming.
 
 Doubles ISK | 
      
      
        |  CookieStein
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 256
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:27:00 -
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 Dr PepperPoP wrote:Ivar Iosef wrote:Standard loldrama. 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 FYI - for anyone who attempts to work with Tso again, please be warned that a Tso pilot *Cough Voodoo cough cough* Will shoot and blow up your OB ship that is blue regardless. Don't ask for compensation for friendly fire either, you didn't protect yourself and died, that's your fault, not his. NAP or no NAP - Voodoo will kill you. Then he'll blame the other side for breaking agreements, while also not showing to matches and still expecting pay. Sad part is i'm not even trolling. Ivar really did friendly fire then accuse us of being future traitors. LOL Yes, yes he did...would you like Kane's quotes where he says he completely understood why that happened and how we fixed it so it wouldn't happen again?
 
 I gotz lotz of quotes bro, ya just gotta ask
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        |  Derrith Erador
 The Panty Pugilists
 
 1284
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:27:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   That's what happens when dumb asses make threads about taking out NS... If you're threatened by war then wouldn't you take the offensive to try and wipe out the other side?  I don't actually remember FA making threads about taking down NS, I remember me making threads making fun of them, though. Just throwing that out there.
 
 The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core. | 
      
      
        |  Mr Machine Guns
 Nyain San
 Renegade Alliance
 
 568
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:29:00 -
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 Derrith Erador wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   That's what happens when dumb asses make threads about taking out NS... If you're threatened by war then wouldn't you take the offensive to try and wipe out the other side?  I don't actually remember FA making threads about taking down NS, I remember me making threads making fun of them, though. Just throwing that out there. 
 No FA did make threads about NS
 
 The new CEO of FA | 
      
      
        |  Derrith Erador
 The Panty Pugilists
 
 1285
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:31:00 -
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 Mr Machine Guns wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   That's what happens when dumb asses make threads about taking out NS... If you're threatened by war then wouldn't you take the offensive to try and wipe out the other side?  I don't actually remember FA making threads about taking down NS, I remember me making threads making fun of them, though. Just throwing that out there. No FA did make threads about NS The CEO knows these things, I must bow to your knowledge.
 
 The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core. | 
      
      
        |  Free Beers
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 2003
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:47:00 -
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 DJINN Marauder wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This thread will shortly turn into 'blaaargh the other side are terrible/scrubby/liars blaaaargh'.
 To answer your question, after PC locking was fixed RA and NF started to attack Tso's.
 Not just 'attack'. They completely blitzed us. In about 9 minutes I got 12 attack notifications from Nyain San.   I love them   
 
 See I tried to tell people its just NS jealously because they are awesome peeps
 
 Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another | 
      
      
        |  Ivar Iosef
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 42
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:58:00 -
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 Dr PepperPoP wrote:Ivar Iosef wrote:Standard loldrama. 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 FYI - for anyone who attempts to work with Tso again, please be warned that a Tso pilot *Cough Voodoo cough cough* Will shoot and blow up your OB ship that is blue regardless. Don't ask for compensation for friendly fire either, you didn't protect yourself and died, that's your fault, not his. NAP or no NAP - Voodoo will kill you. Then he'll blame the other side for breaking agreements, while also not showing to matches and still expecting pay. Sad part is i'm not even trolling. Ivar really did friendly fire then accuse us of being future traitors. LOL 
 
 I keep telling ya, we were not blues. You were paying on a per-match basis. That incident is what caused us to BECOME blues. Your credibility is already in shambles, why not lie a little more?
 
 I know your wallet is hurting from your space-losses last night, and the dishonour of having Mr Spero caught and ransomed.....even if he ejected from his ship to save his pod. Six hours of getting your fleet destroyed is tough. I've been there before, it sucks, I know. But that's not reason to let rage cloud your reason and start spreading foul lies.
 
 The best part is I'm just a grunt
 
 Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch. [GI4NT] <3XXXD> | 
      
      
        |  Free Beers
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 2003
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 18:59:00 -
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 CookieStein wrote:Yes, yes he did...would you like Kane's quotes where he says he completely understood why that happened and how we fixed it so it wouldn't happen again? I gotz lotz of quotes bro, ya just gotta ask   
 
 
 One of my major issues with TSO is that made it seem like they were actively working against us at times. NF made mistakes with communication and logistics while TSO intentionally shoots blues and didn't show up to support per contract to (punish us).
 
 What does kane do cookie? He tries to smooth things over to get stuff worked out nothing wrong with that. Just because he minimized the incident doesn't me it didn't matter to him or us.
 
 NF liked working with TSO but seemed like TSO thought NF was more of a burden than a business partner.
 
 Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another | 
      
      
        |  CookieStein
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 256
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 19:12:00 -
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 Free Beers wrote:CookieStein wrote:Yes, yes he did...would you like Kane's quotes where he says he completely understood why that happened and how we fixed it so it wouldn't happen again? I gotz lotz of quotes bro, ya just gotta ask   One of my major issues with TSO is that made it seem like they were actively working against us at times. NF made mistakes with communication and logistics while TSO intentionally shoots blues and didn't show up to support per contract to (punish us).  What does kane do cookie? He tries to smooth things over to get stuff worked out nothing wrong with that. Just because he minimized the incident doesn't me it didn't matter to him or us.  NF liked working with TSO but seemed like TSO thought NF was more of a burden than a business partner.  You disappoint me with that man, would have thought you above attempting to over simplify and meta misdirect. And I know losing a badly fit Thrasher mattered to him because the amount of tears over it was ridiculous for a situation that was avoidable and quickly corrected by me despite all the threats that came from him over it.
 
 As per this whole this whole "didn't show up to support a contract"...I honestly don't know if you were kept in the loop or not on NF's end but if you were then you know exactly why we put you guys in a one night 'time out', as does Kane and Sota...that falls directly on NF as well.
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        |  Free Beers
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 2003
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 19:45:00 -
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 CookieStein wrote:Free Beers wrote:CookieStein wrote:Yes, yes he did...would you like Kane's quotes where he says he completely understood why that happened and how we fixed it so it wouldn't happen again? I gotz lotz of quotes bro, ya just gotta ask   One of my major issues with TSO is that made it seem like they were actively working against us at times. NF made mistakes with communication and logistics while TSO intentionally shoots blues and didn't show up to support per contract to (punish us).  What does kane do cookie? He tries to smooth things over to get stuff worked out nothing wrong with that. Just because he minimized the incident doesn't me it didn't matter to him or us.  NF liked working with TSO but seemed like TSO thought NF was more of a burden than a business partner.  You disappoint me with that man, would have thought you above attempting to over simplify and meta misdirect. And I know losing a badly fit Thrasher mattered to him because the amount of tears over it was ridiculous for a situation that was avoidable and quickly corrected by me despite all the threats that came from him over it. As per this whole this whole "didn't show up to support a contract"...I honestly don't know if you were kept in the loop or not on NF's end but if you were then you know exactly why we put you guys in a one night 'time out', as does Kane and Sota...that falls directly on NF as well. 
 
 Cookie as a former nullsec diplo I am all about simplifying and meta. I had the lovely task of "Whoops I shot a blue 2 bill isk tengu for 5 minutes till i killed it and his pod then salvged it beers" You have to remember for people like us this stuff is normal (full disclosure I have killed my own FC in eve before). I think a lot of this was perception problem on both sides. There are real differences between eve and dust players and how expectations work out.
 
 I was in the loop and thought the deal for NAP, helping FA, paying for OB support was a **** deal for NF and was against it. You have to remember NF talks to everyone and deals are negotiated all the time. Many weren't happy with the TSO deal so kane negotiated with other groups (not just EA). Sadly for our relationship with TSO the best deal was to attack it with RA. I dont know what else to say except kane tried to make it work till he couldn't.
 
 
 
 Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another | 
      
      
        |  ANON Illuminati
 
 581
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 21:26:00 -
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 Ivar Iosef wrote:Standard loldrama. 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 
 
 protecting would mean we were afraid of something and or losing to something so bad that we needed help from another force to keep them from doing so.
 
 
 
 
 you my friend only helped with air support but you did not protect us. as far as i see it we havent lost anything to anyone. so please i understand your upset as i would be too but correct the protect to helped.
 
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        |  Dr PepperPoP
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 346
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 21:46:00 -
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 Ivar Iosef wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Ivar Iosef wrote:Standard loldrama. 
 NF decided that they didn't need to inform us that our business was at an end, joined up with AE and attacked us an hour after we were protecting their asses.
 
 So I made a stink on the forums they didn't like. Now they are butthurt cause their shiny reputation got tarnished.
 
 Lots of fights on the ground and in space. We're winning one, they are winning the other atm
 FYI - for anyone who attempts to work with Tso again, please be warned that a Tso pilot *Cough Voodoo cough cough* Will shoot and blow up your OB ship that is blue regardless. Don't ask for compensation for friendly fire either, you didn't protect yourself and died, that's your fault, not his. NAP or no NAP - Voodoo will kill you. Then he'll blame the other side for breaking agreements, while also not showing to matches and still expecting pay. Sad part is i'm not even trolling. Ivar really did friendly fire then accuse us of being future traitors. LOL I keep telling ya, we were not blues. You were paying on a per-match basis. That incident is what caused us to BECOME blues. Your credibility is already in shambles, why not lie a little more?  I know your wallet is hurting from your space-losses last night, and the dishonour of having Mr Spero caught and ransomed.....even if he ejected from his ship to save his pod. Six hours of getting your fleet destroyed is tough. I've been there before, it sucks, I know. But that's not reason to let rage cloud your reason and start spreading foul lies. The best part is I'm just a grunt, I get no say in reimbursements or pay. Alright, I miss stepped. Your right, you only shoot people you contract with. My bad. No NAP breakin' or foreshadowing there.
 
 And how you expect EvE loses to effect me is beyond my understanding. You should take that troll to kane. "Lol, I blewz yo ship up, then watched as my districts burned." hehe.
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        |  NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm
 Expert Intervention
 Caldari State
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 21:49:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:That's what happens when dumb asses make threads about taking out NS...If you're threatened by war then wouldn't you take the offensive to try and wipe out the other side?
 I'm not in the least bit surprised. They took the initiative to wipe out (or maybe burn out) their enemies. It was a smart move. Now it's time to defend.
 
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