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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:57:00 -
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They made a minor change to the amarr scout's stamina without really drawing attention to it. Initially it had 225 stamina, now its 275. At max skills then with a PRO stamina mod it will be able to sprint for 79 seconds....at a speed of
The next best scout (minmatar) will be able to sprint for 52 seconds with a PRO stamina mod.
Over the minmatar's sprint duration the min scout can cover 432m while the amarr will cover 401m. (without kincats)
At this point the minmatar scout will take almost 4 seconds for its stamina to regen. It will cover 22.6 more meters while the amarr scout will still be sprinting 30.8m.
So during the minmatar scout's sprint/regen cycle of 56s with a PRO cardiac mod, the different scout's distances covered are:
Minmatar - 455m
Amarr - 431m
Cal/Gal - 430m
That makes the difference between their average speeds/distance traveled almost negligible over long distances. Over the course of the lengths of their sprints the minmatar scout will be about 5% faster.
The caveat is that a kincat on a minmitar is better than one on an amarr and would push speed a little more in the favor of minmatar. But it should also be noted that that extra lowslot on a scout amarr suit vs. the minmatar is REALLY attractive. This puts the gal and amarr scout in about the same position. However, the gal scout is much more likely going to be using his slightly smaller pool of CPU to fit range amps while the amarr scout could be more likely to maximize survivability with some more armor or fit an extra kincat in its lowslot.
The reality is though, that the amarr scout can get by with an enhanced cardiac mod where the other suits can need a PRO mod to cover the same distance.
BUT WAIT!!!
WHY DOES 56 SECONDS OF SPRINT TIME MATTER?
The further/faster you can sprint, the more ground you can cover while cloaked. What I want to find out next is, what suit can travel the furthest while cloaked...
I just wanted to note that since you can jump once per second at a cost of 65 stamina (and it starts to regen right when you jump) CAL/GAL scouts will have a hard time maximizing their sprinting distance if it involves any jumping while minmatar/amarr can basically infinitely jump when equipped with a stamina mod.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:59:00 -
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Did you include the Amarr scouts buff to stamina from it's suit bonus?
275 goes up to 344, and they also get 50/s recharge.
EDIT: Put my data into the fitter
New stats for Amarr scout:
Without Modules: 361 Stamina. 52.5 a second
With a Proto Stamina Module: 756 Stamina. 110.25 Stamina
DAMN
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:04:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Did you include the Amarr scouts buff to stamina from it's suit bonus?
275 goes up to 344, and they also get 50/s recharge.
If this is true I apologies for my harshness towards ccp about how bad the a-scout is
"But we have been blessed"
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:08:00 -
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Three jumps is all you can really get.
Jumping is % of stamina not flat rate
KRRROOOOOOM
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
2195
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:09:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Did you include the Amarr scouts buff to stamina from it's suit bonus?
275 goes up to 344, and they also get 50/s recharge.
Yep. With PRO mod the minmatar can sprint for 225 stam*1.05 bio skill *2.2 PRO cardiac mod @ 10 stamina/sec or 52 seconds.
Amarr scout is 275 * 1.05 * 1.25 * 1.65 ADV cardiac mod @ 10 stam/s for 60 seconds. They could even drop down to a STD mod (50 sec sprint) and only drop by about 3-5% overall speed because they'd have about the same 4 sec regen rate as minmatar.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:10:00 -
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Locked for duplicate topic. Please use the existing thread for discussion.
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