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Naviticus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:21:00 -
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Juss kiddin, now stop crying about a respec because you trained into op weapons or suits and now their getting nerfed.
Get over it. Only respec that should be given is to people at like 5mil sp so they can re allocate their skills when they learn more about the game. Full respecs or even partial respecs will just make it so people will spec into the next op weapon. Imagine if they gave a respec when they introduced the combat rifle and rr. They would be even more prevalent than they are now.
With this event and its alligations of "softening the blow" to ccp not giving a respec..... who cares its 2 mil sp if you buy a omega booster aka enough sp to buy a brand new proto dropsuit.
If ccp does allow respecs it will alter the game play drastically meaning people that spec'd into tanks when they started becoming cheaper will fully spec into tanks after their dropsuit skills get respecd. Or hey the new op weapon is ______ maybe i do need proficiency 5 of everything on it, whats an assault rifle thing anymore?!?"
As for myself i have proto commando which i never use any more since the swarm launcher nerf, also swarm launchers proficiency's which suck now, proto scouts which i never use because i dont like them and they get chewed up, Assault rifle skills which I dont use because they adjusted the aiming with mouse n key. I have plenty of "wasted" skill points because of patches and changes to the game but I have 29 mil sp. So stop complaining about respecs and think about the youngins in this game 1-5mil getting their ass whooped by you guys crying for a respec. But yes lets get a respec so we can all spec into op weapons with more unallocated sp than most people have in this game. |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
347
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:22:00 -
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omg not another one. GTFO,
my name is boba and im a hoarder. although this isnt by choice. no player market =(
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Naviticus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:23:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:omg not another one. GTFO,
and you must be one cryin for a respec :*( |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:24:00 -
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I was a Prometheus pilot....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser
I played Heavies during the dark times.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser
I play my 2 million SP scout 100000x more than my 16 million SP heavy.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser.
Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on this one, 1.8 respec for life.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:25:00 -
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Naviticus wrote:Juss kiddin, now stop crying about a respec because you trained into op weapons or suits and now their getting nerfed.
Get over it. Only respec that should be given is to people at like 5mil sp so they can re allocate their skills when they learn more about the game. Full respecs or even partial respecs will just make it so people will spec into the next op weapon. Imagine if they gave a respec when they introduced the combat rifle and rr. They would be even more prevalent than they are now.
With this event and its alligations of "softening the blow" to ccp not giving a respec..... who cares its 2 mil sp if you buy a omega booster aka enough sp to buy a brand new proto dropsuit.
If ccp does allow respecs it will alter the game play drastically meaning people that spec'd into tanks when they started becoming cheaper will fully spec into tanks after their dropsuit skills get respecd. Or hey the new op weapon is ______ maybe i do need proficiency 5 of everything on it, whats an assault rifle thing anymore?!?"
As for myself i have proto commando which i never use any more since the swarm launcher nerf, also swarm launchers proficiency's which suck now, proto scouts which i never use because i dont like them and they get chewed up, Assault rifle skills which I dont use because they adjusted the aiming with mouse n key. I have plenty of "wasted" skill points because of patches and changes to the game but I have 29 mil sp. So stop complaining about respecs and think about the youngins in this game 1-5mil getting their ass whooped by you guys crying for a respec. But yes lets get a respec so we can all spec into op weapons with more unallocated sp than most people have in this game.
boooooooo dont care 4 respec never done 1 other than forced 1 dont want another.....eve isnt ment to have respecs
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:27:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Naviticus wrote:Juss kiddin, now stop crying about a respec because you trained into op weapons or suits and now their getting nerfed.
Get over it. Only respec that should be given is to people at like 5mil sp so they can re allocate their skills when they learn more about the game. Full respecs or even partial respecs will just make it so people will spec into the next op weapon. Imagine if they gave a respec when they introduced the combat rifle and rr. They would be even more prevalent than they are now.
With this event and its alligations of "softening the blow" to ccp not giving a respec..... who cares its 2 mil sp if you buy a omega booster aka enough sp to buy a brand new proto dropsuit.
If ccp does allow respecs it will alter the game play drastically meaning people that spec'd into tanks when they started becoming cheaper will fully spec into tanks after their dropsuit skills get respecd. Or hey the new op weapon is ______ maybe i do need proficiency 5 of everything on it, whats an assault rifle thing anymore?!?"
As for myself i have proto commando which i never use any more since the swarm launcher nerf, also swarm launchers proficiency's which suck now, proto scouts which i never use because i dont like them and they get chewed up, Assault rifle skills which I dont use because they adjusted the aiming with mouse n key. I have plenty of "wasted" skill points because of patches and changes to the game but I have 29 mil sp. So stop complaining about respecs and think about the youngins in this game 1-5mil getting their ass whooped by you guys crying for a respec. But yes lets get a respec so we can all spec into op weapons with more unallocated sp than most people have in this game. boooooooo dont care 4 respec never done 1 other than forced 1 dont want another.....eve isnt ment to have respecs
EVE has gotten respecs before when they were needed. This is one of those times.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:28:00 -
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We deserve a respec.
I think I'm a forum warrior level 6 :D
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I was a Prometheus pilot....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser I played Heavies during the dark times.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser I play my 2 million SP scout 100000x more than my 16 million SP heavy.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser. Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on this one, 1.8 respec for life. Ironically, by not getting a 1.8 respec, I will just happen to fall into the FoTM
This.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:32:00 -
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Respecs are one of the worst ideas ever and should die in a ball of a white marshmallow substance wrapped in tissue paper and thrown in the bin where your relatives will hopefully not find it.
Or stuff.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:32:00 -
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Not another respec thread. Seriously there is a reason why CCP logibro created that other thread.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Not another respec thread. Seriously there is a reason why CCP logibro created that other thread. You can only hide one of the most popular topics for so long.
I do not envy Lockingbro.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5620
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:36:00 -
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Hmm.. Let's See Here:
- Minmatar Light Frame Operation V
- Gallente Light Frame Operation III
- Kinetic Catylyzation V
- Cardiac Regulation V
- Shotgun Operation V
- Shotgun Proficiency III
- Profile Dampening V
- Range Amplification III
By all means, please tell me how I am pushing for a respec simply because I trained into an overpowered item.
Furthermore, denying a SP Refund on the bases of FoTM is irrelevant, as you are punishing the entire playerbase for the actions of a single subset of it. Furthermore, a FoTM chaser would invest into the FoTM regardless of whether or not an SP Refund is issued. They are "chasers" for a reason
What if I reset the ISK reserves of every player and corporation wallet simply because PC players were abusing game mechanics to generate ISK that was never intended to be created?
As for your "softening the blow" point, I adressed this in a thread earlier:
Atiim wrote:Kam Elto wrote:This is the largest SP event with a possibility of gaining 2,000,000 bonus SP. You can't compare it to the other events. No respecs. Let the tears flow!
The possibility of gaining 2mil SP is only if you purchase an Omega Booster, so denying an SP refund on the basis that you could obtain 2mil SP would be literally paying to win (p2w); something that CCP said themselves that they wanted to avoid. This also implies that the entire playerbase is participating in this event (which they aren't), so making a decision that affects the entire playerbase based on something that few will benefit from // obtain is simply put, downright idiotic. The above 2 points can (and do) apply to any, and every SP event. Simply voting for a decision for the mere desire of seeing negative feedback from the playerbase means that you are not qualified to make and/or vote on any decision that affects the playerbase, and that your opinion(s)/judgement on the subject matter is both uneducated, biased, and irrelevant; and should never be taken seriously (assuming it has been before). -HAND
Furthermore, I'd "whoop the young'uns" @$$ even without a respec. The only thing that would stop this is a better New Player Experience (NPE).
IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: boooooooo dont care 4 respec never done 1 other than forced 1 dont want another.....eve isnt ment to have respecs
Well this is a FPS, and EVE Online is a Space Simulator/MMO.
Along with that, there has never been a single ship in EVE Online that has ever been released without having all four faction's counterparts included.
SP earned inside EVE Online is also passively gained, so there is no need to play for incredible amounts of time to remain viable and/or competitive.
-HAND
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:40:00 -
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reported for missleading/trolling/spam
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:44:00 -
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Naviticus wrote:boba's fetta wrote:omg not another one. GTFO, and you must be one cryin for a respec :*( i honestly couldnt care either way. way to many threads on this already did you not see the other 5?
my name is boba and im a hoarder. although this isnt by choice. no player market =(
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hmm.. Let's See Here:
- Minmatar Light Frame Operation V
- Gallente Light Frame Operation III
- Kinetic Catylyzation V
- Cardiac Regulation V
- Shotgun Operation V
- Shotgun Proficiency III
- Profile Dampening V
- Range Amplification III
By all means, please tell me how I am pushing for a respec simply because I trained into an overpowered item. Listing things you skilled into that aren't necessarily OP is not a good way to make your point here.
Haven't you also said you're a tanker, a Heavy, a Minmatar Logi with a Combat Rifle...?
I think I'm a forum warrior level 6 :D
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1837
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:46:00 -
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So I skill into something, they buff it, it becomes op and I wish to change, that's my fault? Lmao people that assume that everyone does fotm are actually the ones who do it..
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
354
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I was a Prometheus pilot....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser I played Heavies during the dark times.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser I play my 2 million SP scout 100000x more than my 16 million SP heavy.....I am immune to being called a FoTM chaser. Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on this one, 1.8 respec for life. Ironically, by not getting a 1.8 respec, I will just happen to fall into the FoTM
Dam... Prometheus= Respect
Heavies, as long as you used HMG.
Scout, same here
As stated by someone else, if scouts will be FotM in 1.8, my name will be up on the board. And, if I get a respec, putting my SP from Minnie Assault into Gallente Scout, with PRO cloaks, biotics, Shottys, and everything scout related, including STD of every racial scout if the SP suffices.
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
There is no them, only us.
[Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
354
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Atiim wrote:Hmm.. Let's See Here:
- Minmatar Light Frame Operation V
- Gallente Light Frame Operation III
- Kinetic Catylyzation V
- Cardiac Regulation V
- Shotgun Operation V
- Shotgun Proficiency III
- Profile Dampening V
- Range Amplification III
By all means, please tell me how I am pushing for a respec simply because I trained into an overpowered item. Listing things you skilled into that aren't necessarily OP is not a good way to make your point here. Haven't you also said you're a tanker, a Heavy, a Minmatar Logi with a Combat Rifle...?
Dis.
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
There is no them, only us.
[Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5625
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:53:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote: Listing things you skilled into that aren't necessarily OP is not a good way to make your point here.
Haven't you also said you're a tanker, a Heavy, a Minmatar Logi with a Combat Rifle...?
Yes it is. It's to disprove the thought about how only FoTM Chasers are pushing for respecs.
I was a Tanker, Matari Logistics, and Heavy before it was a FoTM; as for the Combat Rifle, I'm specced into it simply because it's Matari.
I don't even use that stuff anymore (unless absolutely necessary).
edit: I prefer the term "Omni-Soldier"
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12145
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:55:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Dam... Prometheus= Respect
Heavies, as long as you used HMG.
Scout, same here
As stated by someone else, if scouts will be FotM in 1.8, my name will be up on the board. And, if I get a respec, putting my SP from Minnie Assault into Gallente Scout, with PRO cloaks, biotics, Shottys, and everything scout related, including STD of every racial scout if the SP suffices. Prometheus = Red headed step child of the sky
I used an HMG for a long time, but I switched to the AR after a while. I did so long before it became popular, because I saw the writing on the wall.
Scout is the only way to play, on the ground anyways.
Assuming respec I'm going Gallente scout with passive scanning and dampening, speed, shotguns and double REs. Cloaks feel like they would just hold me back. I want to be quick, laying RE traps all over the place, and stalking people, none of which I can do any better with a cloak.
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Rinzler XVII
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:55:00 -
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Naviticus wrote:Juss kiddin, now stop crying about a respec because you trained into op weapons or suits and now their getting nerfed.
Get over it. Only respec that should be given is to people at like 5mil sp so they can re allocate their skills when they learn more about the game. Full respecs or even partial respecs will just make it so people will spec into the next op weapon. Imagine if they gave a respec when they introduced the combat rifle and rr. They would be even more prevalent than they are now.
With this event and its alligations of "softening the blow" to ccp not giving a respec..... who cares its 2 mil sp if you buy a omega booster aka enough sp to buy a brand new proto dropsuit.
If ccp does allow respecs it will alter the game play drastically meaning people that spec'd into tanks when they started becoming cheaper will fully spec into tanks after their dropsuit skills get respecd. Or hey the new op weapon is ______ maybe i do need proficiency 5 of everything on it, whats an assault rifle thing anymore?!?"
As for myself i have proto commando which i never use any more since the swarm launcher nerf, also swarm launchers proficiency's which suck now, proto scouts which i never use because i dont like them and they get chewed up, Assault rifle skills which I dont use because they adjusted the aiming with mouse n key. I have plenty of "wasted" skill points because of patches and changes to the game but I have 29 mil sp. So stop complaining about respecs and think about the youngins in this game 1-5mil getting their ass whooped by you guys crying for a respec. But yes lets get a respec so we can all spec into op weapons with more unallocated sp than most people have in this game.
AKA you suck and are scared new and intermediate players will dominate you
Skills and playstyles are being changed drastically and with 29m SP you can skill into the FoTM constantly you basically don't want anyone else doing it
An infantry respec would help new and intermediate players out ALOT more than no infantry respec
Only an idiot would think people requesting a respec in 1.8 were FoTM chasers
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
3387
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:58:00 -
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Is that the new thing now? To rant about something and then say "think about the noobs" for that political campaign boost?
Honestly, a respec would help more of the young players than it would the old. I'm considered a vet now but I'm not nearly a vet as others before me who have SP out the wazoo. And with the upcoming event (not forgetting that most will save their SP just for that rainy day), the SP that will be gained (1 mil SP, yes!) will only aid them further.
While some people do specc into whatever does the most damage, most players are just good with the weapons they have chosen. It's just easier to say they specced into such n such weapon just for the OP status. That's not true. If that was the case, the pubs would be flooded with CRs and SCRs.
Plus, you make it sound like with 1-5 mil SP, you can't be a force on the battlefield. Yea, you can. It doesn't take much to skill up a dropsuit, your weapon of choice and nanohives to boot.
So really, what's the point of your post? It doesn't make any sense to me...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
2489
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Posted - 2014.03.12 00:00:00 -
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Locked due to Respec discussion.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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