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G Torq ALTA B2O 492	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1005	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Don't forget to ban the abusers as well, same way as you're not allowed to recycle pilots in EVE neither should you be allowed to do it in DUST for the starter ISK. /c DUSTBoard DUSTSearch DUST Server Status

Argo Filch Cannonfodder PMC 71	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:29:00 - [3] - Quote Do eet! Do eet nao!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2009	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:32:00 - [4] - Quote G Torq wrote: Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChribbaVeldspar/status/443468080476610560 It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem. For the Federation!
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2525	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:33:00 - [5] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: G Torq wrote: Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChribbaVeldspar/status/443468080476610560 It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem. I think you may be surprised. Hail Satan
Samahiel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 326	Posted - 2014.03.12 13:48:00 - [6] - Quote I support this product and/or service. E: "When Chriba, a redditor, and a goon" sounds like the setup up for a bar joke. Either way, when they agree there's a pretty good chance it's important.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1853	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:56:00 - [7] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem. Tedious or not it's being exploited. And no, you don't get more ISK from simply playing an Ambush match. Ambush match in BPO/low end gear = 200-300k ISK profit? Character starter ISK farming = 500k ISK profit and it only takes a minute or so per character. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Mishra's Dragon Dark Side Alliance 18	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:43:00 - [8] - Quote I support this totally. I have heard/seen people do this a lot. Join the Dark Side Alliance, we have cookies and milk~ Mishy the Sentinal loves logi attentions <3
ShalaShasta 666 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 17	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote how will this help? make a merc go slaughter new players for one match and fill your wallet with 800 000 isk instead. I acknowledge the problem but that is not the solution....... OUKH Join Today Lokun Listamenn Got Alt?
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 97	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:45:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Good suggestion.

AmlSeb Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:09:00 - [11] - Quote Ban yes but everything else is unnecessary. You get 250k at the beginning which is about as much in 10 hours as you get from a good game in 15 minutes. It won-¦t help anyway because those who do this know how to play and simply rush through the academy in half an hour. @AmlSeb on Twitter BPO exchange: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1852003
DaNizzle4shizle Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 689	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:11:00 - [12] - Quote so i can just make a new guy.... go academy stomp one battle.... and transfer MORE isk to my main? bravo...... I strive for Greatness. I am the merc that I am today because of all the trials I have been through.
75kcirtaP Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:13:00 - [13] - Quote This would be a better idea if the Academy took longer to graduate from. Otherwise, someone could go in with a tank, stomp the noobs, and then transfer all the ISK they have to another character. It's not getting around the problem. I'm not who you think I am
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 101	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:48:00 - [14] - Quote lol people actually wait for ten hours to make a character for infinite money and delete him? if they do that, they have too much time on their hands Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
Billi Gene 516	Posted - 2014.03.12 21:11:00 - [15] - Quote you are thinking far too small.... you can delete a toon after 10 hours, so the impediment is turn around..... fix: make ten alt accounts, each with three toons, thats what 7.5m/10 hours? before you go to work/school, complete previous deletion, make new toons. get back from work and transfer isk, begin deletion. play on main account as desired, go to sleep. wake up and make thirty new toons..... Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 327	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:39:00 - [16] - Quote This won't solve anything......the thing is you're supposed to get banned for this but as far as I can tell everyone I know that does this hasn't even heard a peep from CCP..... And to be perfectly honest ive done it like this before.....get my ass kicked in a match( happens even to the best of us from time to time) log off....make an salt....go beat up helpless blues...collect money to refund suits lost in ass kicking and blow off some steam.....heck I raged for a week straight and did nothing but kick the **** out of blues in ba..... I may sound like a hippie but everyone getting all kinds of pissed off about all the things wrong need to chill out Some of us are trying to do what you're supposed to do with a GAME....have fun..... Real heavies use lasers
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 498	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:50:00 - [17] - Quote ex someone has x alt psns logs on create 3 characters transfer isk biomass all 3 do the same with x psns 1.5 mill each per day and jw how much does it cost per day to run full proto? and this will probably be worse because they are making pc isk farms less profitable now module poll stuff for alts
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 498	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:54:00 - [18] - Quote 75kcirtaP wrote: This would be a better idea if the Academy took longer to graduate from. Otherwise, someone could go in with a tank, stomp the noobs, and then transfer all the ISK they have to another character. It's not getting around the problem. 1 account isnt the problem its when they have several that it is. and having to graduate 8 times per day would suck module poll stuff for alts
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12216	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:59:00 - [19] - Quote Saberwing said they were looking at it in IRC earlier. It's not like we haven't reported it before Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 522	Posted - 2014.03.13 05:47:00 - [20] - Quote I like the idea, but it creates the added problem of stomping the real noobs in the academy. This is already enough of a problem. Maybe if they blocked alts from the academy, and instituted a weeks time before any isk could be transfered, we could solve 2 problems instead of making the NPE that much worse. Looking for the scout hangout?

Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 327	Posted - 2014.03.13 16:44:00 - [21] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I like the idea, but it creates the added problem of stomping the real noobs in the academy. This is already enough of a problem. Maybe if they blocked alts from the academy, and instituted a weeks time before any isk could be transfered, we could solve 2 problems instead of making the NPE that much worse. Just so u know this has been going on far longer than the PC lock I know people that have been doing this since day one of money transfers....some of them have pulled in 10 mil a day....they don'tdo it all the time because its boring and cheap.... Real heavies use lasers
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 821	Posted - 2014.03.13 20:13:00 - [22] - Quote Or just force players to have 1mill SP before leaving academy, new toons begin with 0 ISK and SP. Problem solved and new players are more experienced when they finally make it out of academy. 2 birds 1 plasma Cannon. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 550	Posted - 2014.03.13 21:41:00 - [23] - Quote G Torq wrote: Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq. http://dustmerc.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/recycling/ https://mobile.twitter.com/ChribbaVeldspar/status/443468080476610560 This will fix people doing it on a large scale yes, however I can very very easily graduate in one match and in that match earn ~300-500K on top of base ISK. I would like to see it implemented regardless. Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel Projects: TDBS \| SDETool
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7354	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:27:00 - [24] - Quote I say just remove the starter ISK in general. Problem solved. Besides, DUST players have the starter fits to begin with. If not, at the very least drop the starter amount to 5,000 ISK extend the biomass timer to Eve Online's 24 hour timer. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
FarQue FromAfar Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 105	Posted - 2014.03.14 00:25:00 - [25] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: so i can just make a new guy.... go academy stomp one battle.... and transfer MORE isk to my main? bravo...... I do this all the time with my wife and 3 kids, we love stomping the BA, we try to come up with the funniest names and see who gets the most k/d, and after we graduate, usually 1 battle for all but my 9 year old, we transfer isk to our main and delete. And I honestly do not care if any think that is wrong, we earned it, and it has made better players out them. For them it puts their skill for a FPS to the challenge against equals, and not against some 40 million and up SP "vet" who has their mommy and daddy's credit/debit card, and proto gear stomping them at the red line... That is never fun. For us it is an expanded NPE, gives everyone a chance at a new suit, and or weapon. If any remember starting out, to get weapon and suit to basic, it takes almost all the free 250K to do so, even if we are able to at all. Not like we are getting free stuff from the government here... This is how we spend quality time as a family, doing something we all get into and get loud laughing and cheering. We DO NOT do this to "Farm ISK"....
FarQue FromAfar Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 105	Posted - 2014.03.14 00:31:00 - [26] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I say just remove the starter ISK in general. Problem solved. Besides, DUST players have the starter fits to begin with. If not, at the very least drop the starter amount to 5,000 ISK extend the biomass timer to Eve Online's 24 hour timer. They might be able to do that if there was a better NPE in place, and the ability to choose a tier cap to fight in, instead of getting 2700 WP in the BA, then getting their very next match 200 WP and 4/24... Also if CCP would make all suits and weapons available in militia variants... then sure start at 0 ISK and 0 SP..... I am all for that. 250K ISK is chicken scratch, but the 500k SP is worth 2 weeks to 2 months depending on how little of a life the player has in real life...


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