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G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:26:00 -
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Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers.
Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy.
Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means.
It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514.
Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space.
Regards,
G Torq.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1005
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:28:00 -
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Don't forget to ban the abusers as well, same way as you're not allowed to recycle pilots in EVE neither should you be allowed to do it in DUST for the starter ISK.
/c
DUSTBoard
DUSTSearch
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Argo Filch
Cannonfodder PMC
71
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:29:00 -
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Do eet! Do eet nao! |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2009
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:32:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq.
It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem.
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dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:33:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:G Torq wrote:Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq. It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem.
I think you may be surprised.
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Samahiel
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.03.12 13:48:00 -
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I support this product and/or service.
E: "When Chriba, a redditor, and a goon" sounds like the setup up for a bar joke. Either way, when they agree there's a pretty good chance it's important. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:56:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:It's very tedious though... I don't consider it much of a problem.
Tedious or not it's being exploited.
And no, you don't get more ISK from simply playing an Ambush match.
Ambush match in BPO/low end gear = 200-300k ISK profit?
Character starter ISK farming = 500k ISK profit and it only takes a minute or so per character.
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Mishra's Dragon
Dark Side Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:43:00 -
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I support this totally. I have heard/seen people do this a lot.
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ShalaShasta 666
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:32:00 -
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how will this help? make a merc go slaughter new players for one match and fill your wallet with 800 000 isk instead.
I acknowledge the problem but that is not the solution.......
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
97
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:45:00 -
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+1
Good suggestion. |
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AmlSeb
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:09:00 -
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Ban yes but everything else is unnecessary. You get 250k at the beginning which is about as much in 10 hours as you get from a good game in 15 minutes. It won-Št help anyway because those who do this know how to play and simply rush through the academy in half an hour.
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DaNizzle4shizle
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
689
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:11:00 -
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so i can just make a new guy.... go academy stomp one battle.... and transfer MORE isk to my main? bravo......
I strive for Greatness. I am the merc that I am today because of all the trials I have been through.
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75kcirtaP
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:13:00 -
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This would be a better idea if the Academy took longer to graduate from.
Otherwise, someone could go in with a tank, stomp the noobs, and then transfer all the ISK they have to another character.
It's not getting around the problem.
I'm not who you think I am
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.12 19:48:00 -
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lol people actually wait for ten hours to make a character for infinite money and delete him? if they do that, they have too much time on their hands
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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Billi Gene
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:11:00 -
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you are thinking far too small....
you can delete a toon after 10 hours, so the impediment is turn around.....
fix:
make ten alt accounts, each with three toons, thats what 7.5m/10 hours?
before you go to work/school, complete previous deletion, make new toons.
get back from work and transfer isk, begin deletion.
play on main account as desired, go to sleep.
wake up and make thirty new toons.....
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:39:00 -
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This won't solve anything......the thing is you're supposed to get banned for this but as far as I can tell everyone I know that does this hasn't even heard a peep from CCP.....
And to be perfectly honest ive done it like this before.....get my ass kicked in a match( happens even to the best of us from time to time) log off....make an salt....go beat up helpless blues...collect money to refund suits lost in ass kicking and blow off some steam.....heck I raged for a week straight and did nothing but kick the **** out of blues in ba.....
I may sound like a hippie but everyone getting all kinds of pissed off about all the things wrong need to chill out
Some of us are trying to do what you're supposed to do with a GAME....have fun.....
Real heavies use lasers
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:50:00 -
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ex someone has x alt psns
logs on create 3 characters transfer isk biomass all 3
do the same with x psns
1.5 mill each per day and
jw how much does it cost per day to run full proto?
and this will probably be worse because they are making pc isk farms less profitable now
module poll
stuff for alts
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:54:00 -
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75kcirtaP wrote:This would be a better idea if the Academy took longer to graduate from.
Otherwise, someone could go in with a tank, stomp the noobs, and then transfer all the ISK they have to another character.
It's not getting around the problem.
1 account isnt the problem
its when they have several that it is.
and having to graduate 8 times per day would suck
module poll
stuff for alts
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:59:00 -
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Saberwing said they were looking at it in IRC earlier.
It's not like we haven't reported it before
Videos / Fiction
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.13 05:47:00 -
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I like the idea, but it creates the added problem of stomping the real noobs in the academy. This is already enough of a problem.
Maybe if they blocked alts from the academy, and instituted a weeks time before any isk could be transfered, we could solve 2 problems instead of making the NPE that much worse.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
327
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I like the idea, but it creates the added problem of stomping the real noobs in the academy. This is already enough of a problem.
Maybe if they blocked alts from the academy, and instituted a weeks time before any isk could be transfered, we could solve 2 problems instead of making the NPE that much worse.
Just so u know this has been going on far longer than the PC lock
I know people that have been doing this since day one of money transfers....some of them have pulled in 10 mil a day....they don'tdo it all the time because its boring and cheap....
Real heavies use lasers
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:13:00 -
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Or just force players to have 1mill SP before leaving academy, new toons begin with 0 ISK and SP.
Problem solved and new players are more experienced when they finally make it out of academy. 2 birds 1 plasma Cannon.
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
550
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:41:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Dear CCP Games and DUST514 developers. Please, effective as of Uprising1.8 if possible, limit Merc's ability to transfer ISK until after they have graduated from the Academy. Reports from Chribba and the community in general points to this being utilized as a means to gather ISK with no risks, and possibly faster than can be achieved via other in-game means. It is a deplorable (and sad) way of gaining ISK, and a detriment to the eventual Economy of DUST514. Besides that, it would ultimately mess up the Character databases (1st and 3rd), and ID-space. Regards, G Torq.
This will fix people doing it on a large scale yes, however I can very very easily graduate in one match and in that match earn ~300-500K on top of base ISK.
I would like to see it implemented regardless.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7354
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:27:00 -
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I say just remove the starter ISK in general. Problem solved. Besides, DUST players have the starter fits to begin with. If not, at the very least drop the starter amount to 5,000 ISK extend the biomass timer to Eve Online's 24 hour timer.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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FarQue FromAfar
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
105
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:25:00 -
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DaNizzle4shizle wrote:so i can just make a new guy.... go academy stomp one battle.... and transfer MORE isk to my main? bravo......
I do this all the time with my wife and 3 kids, we love stomping the BA, we try to come up with the funniest names and see who gets the most k/d, and after we graduate, usually 1 battle for all but my 9 year old, we transfer isk to our main and delete.
And I honestly do not care if any think that is wrong, we earned it, and it has made better players out them. For them it puts their skill for a FPS to the challenge against equals, and not against some 40 million and up SP "vet" who has their mommy and daddy's credit/debit card, and proto gear stomping them at the red line... That is never fun. For us it is an expanded NPE, gives everyone a chance at a new suit, and or weapon. If any remember starting out, to get weapon and suit to basic, it takes almost all the free 250K to do so, even if we are able to at all. Not like we are getting free stuff from the government here...
This is how we spend quality time as a family, doing something we all get into and get loud laughing and cheering. We DO NOT do this to "Farm ISK".... |
FarQue FromAfar
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
105
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I say just remove the starter ISK in general. Problem solved. Besides, DUST players have the starter fits to begin with. If not, at the very least drop the starter amount to 5,000 ISK extend the biomass timer to Eve Online's 24 hour timer.
They might be able to do that if there was a better NPE in place, and the ability to choose a tier cap to fight in, instead of getting 2700 WP in the BA, then getting their very next match 200 WP and 4/24... Also if CCP would make all suits and weapons available in militia variants... then sure start at 0 ISK and 0 SP..... I am all for that. 250K ISK is chicken scratch, but the 500k SP is worth 2 weeks to 2 months depending on how little of a life the player has in real life... |
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