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Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:54:00 - [1] - Quote What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT...
Patrick57 5925	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:56:00 - [2] - Quote Are you kidding me? There are corps that easily make more than 100 million ISK per day from their districts. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
ads alt 166	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:59:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Are you kidding me? There are corps that easily make more than 100 million ISK per day from their districts. After hotfix Click here for 1.8 release date quote from devs
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 320	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:00:00 - [4] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Folloe me on Youtube
DootDoot Da Short Buss 219	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:00:00 - [5] - Quote Planetary conquest along with the new Faction warfare features in DUST was done by a roaming group of developers CCP has. They are called Team True Grit. And come out to shanghai to work on bigger projects when they aren't occupied on EVE development and CCP CEO Hilmar can spare them. And there in lies the problem with massive portions of DUST's content and additions by Team True Grit. They come out and grind out some code and have half fast implementation of the actual results. And has been done several times to DUSTS detriment. They don't polish or have the general oversight on quality control before implementation.. And you can see this echoed in every feature they have had a hand in. Worse still is CCP doesn't plan on touching PC 2.0 without team true grit working on it themselfs... They where out for a 2-3 month stint before new years... but have since been all recalled to iceland and the work on PC 2.0 suspended largely.
Patrick57 5926	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:01:00 - [6] - Quote ads alt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Are you kidding me? There are corps that easily make more than 100 million ISK per day from their districts. After hotfix The money they make off their districts isn't increased when they lock, it's just a risk free way to make that money. Districts will still produce the same amount of money after tomorrow's fix. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:02:00 - [7] - Quote guys... "without district locking, & defaulting..." question still stands unanswered...
Patrick57 5926	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:06:00 - [8] - Quote Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Why are so many people in the Dust community so ignorant? Locking is only a way to make money from the district RISK FREE. Locking does NOT increase the amount of money you make off a district. Corps were already making millions BEFORE locking started. The issue was just brought up because people QQed and then immediately blamed it on the first thing that came to their mind: LOCKING DISTRICTS. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:12:00 - [9] - Quote im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing?
Patrick57 5926	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:16:00 - [10] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Where are you getting your numbers from? Seems like you are talking about locking districts. Maybe just one district isn't profitable, but multiple districts sure are. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D

Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:28:00 - [11] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Where are you getting your numbers from? Seems like you are talking about locking districts. Maybe just one district isn't profitable, but multiple districts sure are. Are u STUPID? say i lose 1 ISK per district... -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 = -5 so ... Where is ur logic? Sounds like u just go broke quicker...
DootDoot Da Short Buss 219	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:36:00 - [12] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Why are so many people in the Dust community so ignorant? Locking is only a way to make money from the district RISK FREE. Locking does NOT increase the amount of money you make off a district. Corps were already making millions BEFORE locking started. The issue was just brought up because people QQed and then immediately blamed it on the first thing that came to their mind: LOCKING DISTRICTS. Ask well known entities that have gone to head how well ISK sustains over a long war for districts... When clones are being lost and districts are constantly under attack... It becomes a war of attrition... Which ever side goes broke first looses... Sure individual players might have capital to float the corporation further in the war efforts but the Corporation still goes broke. Profitability in PC depends on no up and coming PC corporations continuously challenging the district. And for districts to go uncontested you have to make a name for your corporation and alliance that most people think it a waste of ISK attacking.
Patrick57 5928	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:37:00 - [13] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Where are you getting your numbers from? Seems like you are talking about locking districts. Maybe just one district isn't profitable, but multiple districts sure are. Are u STUPID? say i lose 1 ISK per district... -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 = -5 so ... Where is ur logic? Sounds like u just go broke quicker... Wow, I'm done replying to you anymore... I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
ads alt 167	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:39:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: ads alt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Are you kidding me? There are corps that easily make more than 100 million ISK per day from their districts. After hotfix The money they make off their districts isn't increased when they lock, it's just a risk free way to make that money. Districts will still produce the same amount of money after tomorrow's fix. Eh nm im tired not what I meant. Click here for 1.8 release date quote from devs
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:41:00 - [15] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Where are you getting your numbers from? Seems like you are talking about locking districts. Maybe just one district isn't profitable, but multiple districts sure are. Are u STUPID? say i lose 1 ISK per district... -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 = -5 so ... Where is ur logic? Sounds like u just go broke quicker... Wow, I'm done replying to you anymore... WOW is RIGHT!!! BECAUSE U R AN IDIOT!!! Anyone ELSE care to "Help?" please
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2156	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:44:00 - [16] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Where are you getting your numbers from? Seems like you are talking about locking districts. Maybe just one district isn't profitable, but multiple districts sure are. Are u STUPID? say i lose 1 ISK per district... -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 + -1 = -5 so ... Where is ur logic? Sounds like u just go broke quicker... Wow, I'm done replying to you anymore... WOW is RIGHT!!! BECAUSE U R AN IDIOT!!! Anyone ELSE care to "Help?" please Honestly bro what the hell did your math teacher teach you in school? "But we have been blessed"
Patrick57 5929	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:45:00 - [17] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Honestly bro what the hell did your math teacher teach you in school? I want to know what the hell his English teacher has been teaching him... I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5053	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:46:00 - [18] - Quote Please do not feed the trolls. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3154	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:59:00 - [19] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Planetary conquest along with the new Faction warfare features in DUST was done by a roaming group of developers CCP has. They are called Team True Grit. And come out to shanghai to work on bigger projects when they aren't occupied on EVE development and CCP CEO Hilmar can spare them. And there in lies the problem with massive portions of DUST's content and additions by Team True Grit. They come out and grind out some code and have half fast implementation of the actual results. And has been done several times to DUSTS detriment. They don't polish or have the general oversight on quality control before implementation.. And you can see this echoed in every feature they have had a hand in. Worse still is CCP doesn't plan on touching PC 2.0 without team true grit working on it themselfs... They where out for a 2-3 month stint before new years... but have since been all recalled to iceland and the work on PC 2.0 suspended largely. CCP Nullarbor just returned from another trip to Shanghai. // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5055	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:00:00 - [20] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Honestly bro what the hell did your math teacher teach you in school? I think I've found a great response. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance

Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 455	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:11:00 - [21] - Quote I wouldn't say it's the teachers fault, i'm sure they tried... I blame his parents. #Dud514
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1506	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:18:00 - [22] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Because little children are our future and need something to feel special about. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1506	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:26:00 - [23] - Quote Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Whoa, are you saying that there is more money that appears out of nowhere if the defenders win? My God, if the developers understood the basics of poker (or any traditional game) they'd understand you don't play with any more money than what's on the table. Wow, the stupidity of that design. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 13	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:38:00 - [24] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Whoa, are you saying that there is more money that appears out of nowhere if the defenders win? My God, if the developers understood the basics of poker (or any traditional game) they'd understand you don't play with any more money than what's on the table. Wow, the stupidity of that design. George C. Scott or not ... IM TELLING YOU... WITHOUT CHEATING (EXPLOITING) THERE IS NO F***ING PROFIT... Defending Mercs make 1.5 mil apiece... CORP "0"(save TAX) unless it sits a WEEK unattacked, its NOT Profitable. IF IM WRONG... EXPLAIN IT, cuz ALL any of you have done is talk out of your asses and NOTHING productive... BAN EVERYONE thats posted thus far. SIMPLE QUESTION... & U ninnies obviously DONT know (WITHOUT DISTRICT LOCKING)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1348	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:55:00 - [25] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... if district locking and defaulting is the way you want to play this game, this is not the game for you.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1348	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:57:00 - [26] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Whoa, are you saying that there is more money that appears out of nowhere if the defenders win? My God, if the developers understood the basics of poker (or any traditional game) they'd understand you don't play with any more money than what's on the table. Wow, the stupidity of that design. George C. Scott or not ... IM TELLING YOU... WITHOUT CHEATING (EXPLOITING) THERE IS NO F***ING PROFIT... Defending Mercs make 1.5 mil apiece... CORP "0"(save TAX) unless it sits a WEEK unattacked, its NOT Profitable. IF IM WRONG... EXPLAIN IT, cuz ALL any of you have done is talk out of your asses and NOTHING productive... BAN EVERYONE thats posted thus far. SIMPLE QUESTION... & U ninnies obviously DONT know (WITHOUT DISTRICT LOCKING) yes, you obviously need to be able to defend your districts successfully to be able to be pc. the district becomes profitable when people are too afraid to attack you. that's the point. not using some bs exploit to launch attacks and hide.
SPESHULz The Southern Legion 23	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:19:00 - [27] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: im SERIOUSLY still trying to find PROFIT... 36mil to try... if successful... must wait a WEEK (unattacked) to make that back in BioMass Sales... if ppl DO attack, its JUST a loss (unless u lose LESS than 160 clones)... What am I missing? Lots of corps already have billions so when they get in a war they can lock their districts, pay the fee every day for 2 weeks and still attack enemy districts so it is almost impossible for them to lose. Lord High Commander Maths is OP. After all it is all those numbers flying around that kills you.
SPESHULz The Southern Legion 23	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:30:00 - [28] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: [quote=Jade Dragonis][quote=Jarlaxle JRXL]What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... ... IM TELLING YOU... WITHOUT CHEATING (EXPLOITING) THERE IS NO F***ING PROFIT... Defending Mercs make 1.5 mil apiece... CORP "0"(save TAX) unless it sits a WEEK unattacked, its NOT Profitable. IF IM WRONG... EXPLAIN IT, cuz ALL any of you have done is talk out of your asses and NOTHING productive... BAN EVERYONE thats posted thus far. SIMPLE QUESTION... & U ninnies obviously DONT know (WITHOUT DISTRICT LOCKING) Corp gets tax money if they dont have 10 districts which they use for pc as well. Every corp i have fought for has given a fee to players for fighting win or lose generally 2mil. It depends how the battle goes if you make money but 95% of the time i have profited from pc battles. But when you count the 30+ minutes used to sort out squads and plans it isnt much more then pubs unless you win and get paid well Lord High Commander Maths is OP. After all it is all those numbers flying around that kills you.
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 14	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:27:00 - [29] - Quote low genius wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... if district locking and defaulting is the way you want to play this game, this is not the game for you. the OP was a genuine question... look @ my Corp... We dont have districts... Im asking WHY anyone would... the numbers LOOK like a pitfall... Im ASKING how its profitable "WITHOUT" locking & exploiting a fouled system...
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 14	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:34:00 - [30] - Quote low genius wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... Current format of PC is to attack your own district with an alt corp and no show. This means attacking corp gets its money back. so no cost in attacking. All profit made by district isnt used. thus making millions Whoa, are you saying that there is more money that appears out of nowhere if the defenders win? My God, if the developers understood the basics of poker (or any traditional game) they'd understand you don't play with any more money than what's on the table. Wow, the stupidity of that design. George C. Scott or not ... IM TELLING YOU... WITHOUT CHEATING (EXPLOITING) THERE IS NO F***ING PROFIT... Defending Mercs make 1.5 mil apiece... CORP "0"(save TAX) unless it sits a WEEK unattacked, its NOT Profitable. IF IM WRONG... EXPLAIN IT, cuz ALL any of you have done is talk out of your asses and NOTHING productive... BAN EVERYONE thats posted thus far. SIMPLE QUESTION... & U ninnies obviously DONT know (WITHOUT DISTRICT LOCKING) yes, you obviously need to be able to defend your districts successfully to be able to be pc. the district becomes profitable when people are too afraid to attack you. that's the point. not using some bs exploit to launch attacks and hide. i think i get what you are saying... its JUST a staked claim, defend it well, & its profitable IFF (if & only if) no one attacks it... or IFF no one launches a full scale WAR on it... like the game RISK... fortify, defend, reinforce, defend, till they leave you alone... for a bit... becomes profitable once you've proved you deserve to be there...

Billi Gene 516	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:37:00 - [31] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: low genius wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... if district locking and defaulting is the way you want to play this game, this is not the game for you. the OP was a genuine question... look @ my Corp... We dont have districts... Im asking WHY anyone would... the numbers LOOK like a pitfall... Im ASKING how its profitable "WITHOUT" locking & exploiting a fouled system... and you've been answered multiple times. you just cant seem to accept the answer. Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 14	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:40:00 - [32] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: low genius wrote: Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: What is the POINT (profit) of Planetary Conquest? That is without district locking, & defaulting? I'm running the numbers, and it looks like a PIT... if district locking and defaulting is the way you want to play this game, this is not the game for you. the OP was a genuine question... look @ my Corp... We dont have districts... Im asking WHY anyone would... the numbers LOOK like a pitfall... Im ASKING how its profitable "WITHOUT" locking & exploiting a fouled system... and you've been answered multiple times. you just cant seem to accept the answer. actually "low genius" is the ONLY person to ANSWER the fluxxing question... TY LG... the rest of u are wasted space... please seek help @ church or the morgue
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 738	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:51:00 - [33] - Quote I read your posts as you randomly shouting every other word. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you can't control the tone of your letters. It just screams troll and you should expect to be trolled in return. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 14	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:57:00 - [34] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I read your posts as you randomly shouting every other word. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you can't control the tone of your letters. It just screams troll and you should expect to be trolled in return. cant use italics on ps3 browseras easily as CAPS
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1979	Posted - 2014.03.13 23:59:00 - [35] - Quote Jarlaxle JRXL wrote: guys... "without district locking, & defaulting..." question still stands unanswered... w/o locking? Nothing. Players will be constantly fighting, with things in different TZs, peopel will get burnt out, quit, stop playing etc. It was like that BEFORE everybody and their momma discovered that locking districts was a better alternative. Because you wanted to be something you're not.


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