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Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:30:00 -
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I was using it earlier.. and I noticed how insanely powerful it is. It's too easy to get over 20 kills with it.. it's like the rail rifle but nobody really noticed.. Yup don't even need aim, you just need to spray in the general direction and you will melt everything in your path.... Am I the only one who noticed how (not gonna say OP) crazy powerful this against is against any suits.. people were crying that the charge shot scrambler is OP (which it isn't) but the assault is just fine... Well... Just another skill-less weapon in the hands of a skill-less player... Thoughts?
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1554
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:32:00 -
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I noticed last August.
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:34:00 -
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It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7300
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:38:00 -
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Personal anecdotes do not prove anything, and I sure hope you weren't trying to make a point by doing so. Essentially you provided absolutely zero evidence to support your claim. Thank you for your time, come again with more support for your arguments.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
815
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:41:00 -
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The gun was OP before the OP said it was OP. See! Gun is just too freaking OP!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10812
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:42:00 -
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I view the 120/80 affinity as a huge disadvantage.
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Beck Weathers
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
717
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:43:00 -
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I killed 20 people with a basic shotgun in a match earlyer today, it must be OP too
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5508
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I view the 120/80 affinity as a huge disadvantage. *Stacks Damage Modifiers*
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
452
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:46:00 -
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Along with the increased fitting requirements, you also failed to mention the strong recoil and blinding flashes.
Never fear though, it will soon be nerfed along with every other rifle
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
542
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:47:00 -
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crazy powerful is the new OP
Assault ScR is CP
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5508
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:48:00 -
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The only major drawback that I find when using the ASCR is the kick.
It's kicks like a freaking pack-mule.
Using it is like aiming full auto Thale's TAR-07.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7305
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I view the 120/80 affinity as a huge disadvantage. *Stacks Damage Modifiers* Opposed to other guns with better damage profile stacking damage modifiers? Heck, the combat rifle has a 95/110 damage profile to shield/armor, which is the best damage profile in the game. Stack some damage mods on that and it's way better than the assault scrambler rifles.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5512
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I view the 120/80 affinity as a huge disadvantage. *Stacks Damage Modifiers* Opposed to other guns with better damage profile stacking damage modifiers? Heck, the combat rifle has a 95/110 damage profile to shield/armor, which is the best damage profile in the game. Stack some damage mods on that and it's way better than the assault scrambler rifles. That's kind-of my point.
The drawbacks of any rifle is easily negated when you stack damage modifiers.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7305
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I view the 120/80 affinity as a huge disadvantage. *Stacks Damage Modifiers* Opposed to other guns with better damage profile stacking damage modifiers? Heck, the combat rifle has a 95/110 damage profile to shield/armor, which is the best damage profile in the game. Stack some damage mods on that and it's way better than the assault scrambler rifles. That's kind-of my point. The drawbacks of any rifle is easily negated when you stack damage modifiers. Ah I see, sorry for misinterpreting. I absolutely agree with this statement.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
699
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:58:00 -
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It's a pretty awesome weapon -- it certainly kills me pretty fast -- but for some reason it just never felt right in my hands like the AR or assault RR. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5512
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Posted - 2014.03.09 16:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote: Ah I see, sorry for misinterpreting. I absolutely agree with this statement.
Don't worry about it.
With all the complaints about the ASCR, probably shouldn't have been so vague about things.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Hammerhead i Eagle Thrust
4250
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:09:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. If it performs better than my assault cbr, I wanna see this thing in action.
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ads alt
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:16:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. If it performs better than my assault cbr, I wanna see this thing in action. i have level 4 scr, so later
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2594
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:20:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. All assault suits are getting a bonus to fitting reduction.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
873
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:37:00 -
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Its a great weapon, perfect for my logi fits as it has decent range and is seriously deadly in close too, but I wouldn't call it OP compared to the other rifles. CR and RR are still as deadly if not more so. Proficiency change is probably going to make me go to the ARR over the AScR on my logi because 135%/95% is great 135%/80% with all the Gal heavies running about in 1.8 will not be so effective
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:48:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. All assault suits are getting a bonus to fitting reduction. So? It still uses more.
2GÇó0.75 > 1GÇó0.75
The fitting reductions doesn't magically make them all use the same amount...
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2594
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Posted - 2014.03.09 18:29:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. All assault suits are getting a bonus to fitting reduction. So? It still uses more. 2GÇó0.75 > 1GÇó0.75 The fitting reductions doesn't magically make them all use the same amount... Just pointing it out, you can't say something is balance just because it has a higher fitting cost. I've been a Gallente Assault, so the fitting reduction isn't really new to me.
Not saying the AScR is OP, it's good, but not OP.
Thought I've never seen one overheat.
Edit:edited alot
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3434
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Posted - 2014.03.09 18:41:00 -
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I noticed as soon as the loyalty store existed
Amarr Victor!
But it's getting nerfed too don't worry.
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
228
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Posted - 2014.03.09 18:58:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. All assault suits are getting a bonus to fitting reduction. So? It still uses more. 2GÇó0.75 > 1GÇó0.75 The fitting reductions doesn't magically make them all use the same amount... Just pointing it out, you can't say something is balance just because it has a higher fitting cost. I've been a Gallente Assault, so the fitting reduction isn't really new to me. Not saying the AScR is OP, it's good, but not OP. Thought I've never seen one overheat. Edit:edited alot I used to use them almost exclusively in 1.2-1.3 They do overheat on occasion, usually when you least want them to.
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The Friendzone
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.09 19:11:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Just pointing it out, you can't say something is balance just because it has a higher fitting cost. I've been a Gallente Assault, so the fitting reduction isn't really new to me.
Not saying the AScR is OP, it's good, but not OP.
Thought I've never seen one overheat.
Edit:edited alot Well, you can still fit more higher quality items if you fit a different rifle.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8046
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Posted - 2014.03.09 19:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. All assault suits are getting a bonus to fitting reduction. So? It still uses more. 2GÇó0.75 > 1GÇó0.75 The fitting reductions doesn't magically make them all use the same amount... Just pointing it out, you can't say something is balance just because it has a higher fitting cost. I've been a Gallente Assault, so the fitting reduction isn't really new to me. Not saying the AScR is OP, it's good, but not OP. Thought I've never seen one overheat. Edit:edited alot
Its a good gun....has never been OP....but yeah I would like to see an over heat perhaps at 56-62 rounds of a single magazine.
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1207
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Posted - 2014.03.09 19:16:00 -
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I killed 20 people last night with a Boundless Breach SMG in a scout suit. OP, BAN IMMEDIATELY. |
Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2014.03.09 19:59:00 -
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Green Living wrote:I killed 20 people last night with a Boundless Breach SMG in a scout suit. OP, BAN IMMEDIATELY. Proto.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
151
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Posted - 2014.03.10 10:37:00 -
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Also, it's the only assault variant of a rifle that still has a scope... why ?
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
678
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Posted - 2014.03.10 10:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The only major drawback that I find when using the ASCR is the kick.
It's kicks like a freaking pack-mule.
Using it is like aiming full auto Thale's TAR-07.
Really I never really felt any muzzle climp sure it has more dispersion than lets say the AR but this is mostly becasue of the Sharpshooter skill.
All rifles in dust are pretty accurate that's a one of their big problems and that's the reason why the reduction skills aren't really worthwhile.
For instance I never really felt the difference between CR operation 1 and 5 and the Sharpshooter skill is completely useless unless you want to use the ACR a lot (although I have never tried the ACR with less than Sharpshooter 4)
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4758
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Posted - 2014.03.10 12:26:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I was using it earlier.. and I noticed how insanely powerful it is. It's too easy to get over 20 kills with it.. it's like the rail rifle but nobody really noticed.. Yup don't even need aim, you just need to spray in the general direction and you will melt everything in your path.... Am I the only one who noticed how (not gonna say OP) crazy powerful this against is against any suits.. people were crying that the charge shot scrambler is OP (which it isn't) but the assault is just fine... Well... Just another skill-less weapon in the hands of a skill-less player... Thoughts? That gun is NOTHING compared to the world-ending brutalization-engine that is the CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle.
Yeah, just think about that one. Think about how powerful the Assault variant is, and then imagine that made even more powerful.
The Viziam Scrambler Rifle with 3x Complex Damage Mods and Proficiency 5 will drop brick-tanked Sentinels with 2-3 charged shots.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2822
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Posted - 2014.03.10 12:33:00 -
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Same as the regulars scr provided its on a proto amarr assault. I'm not even an amazing player as I CBA with dust anymore really but I went 36/2 without adsing once yesterday against respectable players.
Scr is not a skill shot weapon, this whole game is a newbish pos LASER FOCUSSED on a pos console.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2822
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Posted - 2014.03.10 12:38:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I was using it earlier.. and I noticed how insanely powerful it is. It's too easy to get over 20 kills with it.. it's like the rail rifle but nobody really noticed.. Yup don't even need aim, you just need to spray in the general direction and you will melt everything in your path.... Am I the only one who noticed how (not gonna say OP) crazy powerful this against is against any suits.. people were crying that the charge shot scrambler is OP (which it isn't) but the assault is just fine... Well... Just another skill-less weapon in the hands of a skill-less player... Thoughts? That gun is NOTHING compared to the world-ending brutalization-engine that is the CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle. Yeah, just think about that one. Think about how powerful the Assault variant is, and then imagine that made even more powerful. The Viziam Scrambler Rifle with 3x Complex Damage Mods and Proficiency 5 will drop brick-tanked Sentinels with 2-3 charged shots.
This.
The scr never was a skill shot weapon ever, its actually more newbish and easy than most but the winner for the newbcake easy award really goes to the assault RR.
When easy mode is still requiring too much effort warranted for this shtty game, then you need.............. Cillit Bang!
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.03.10 12:52:00 -
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Another easy mode nub fit, any scout with re's and a shotgun.
People claim that this is hard mode. In fact it couldn't get much easier provided you have at least some brain cells to rub together.
Hard mode scouts use knives, most are just shotgun/re scum. Sure looking forward to those cloaks, totally not clearly broken to fk.
As if being really quick, hard to hit and undetectable wasn't enough, now ANY idiot will be able to run scout effectively with a cloak. My alt mains proto minja, proto sentinel and proto assault. So I am fully aware of how fking stupid 1.8 will be. Its going to be the trolliest pos, ***** easy mode era for dust so far I believe and I predict that within one month of release, it'll be cloak 514 and will be the last nail on in the coffin, many vets will simply chuckle and quit.
Theres not many fks left in this game and the newb refresh rate is too low to fool players into it being one of those games where periodically the vets leave and newbs join, ps4 much on that?
Ps. I'm one of those pos newb scouts on my alt, I enjoy sprinting around blatantly, indirectly showing off how sht dust is in doing so and blowing people up.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4542
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Posted - 2014.03.10 13:29:00 -
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Feels better than the AR.
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RendonaSix
SWAMPERIUM
3
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Posted - 2014.03.10 13:32:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Feels better than the AR.
Yeah, anything that easy to kill with feels damn good right? |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
679
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Posted - 2014.03.10 13:35:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Another easy mode nub fit, any scout with re's and a shotgun.
People claim that this is hard mode. In fact it couldn't get much easier provided you have at least some brain cells to rub together.
Hard mode scouts use knives, most are just shotgun/re scum. Sure looking forward to those cloaks, totally not clearly broken to fk.
As if being really quick, hard to hit and undetectable wasn't enough, now ANY idiot will be able to run scout effectively with a cloak. My alt mains proto minja, proto sentinel and proto assault. So I am fully aware of how fking stupid 1.8 will be. Its going to be the trolliest pos, ***** easy mode era for dust so far I believe and I predict that within one month of release, it'll be cloak 514 and will be the last nail on in the coffin, many vets will simply chuckle and quit.
Theres not many fks left in this game and the newb refresh rate is too low to fool players into it being one of those games where periodically the vets leave and newbs join, ps4 much on that?
Ps. I'm one of those pos newb scouts on my alt, I enjoy sprinting around blatantly, indirectly showing off how sht dust is in doing so and blowing people up.
Funny I find NK way easier to use than the SG .
The NK operation skill makes the NK stronger instead of weaker (yes spread reduction on a SG is stupid and makes the weapon weaker) and HD seems to work better than SG's HD at least I have less problems in hitting with knives than I have with the SG :( not even considering that a charged knife attack is almost every time a kill.
And sneaking up someone with a shotty is more than often a dead SG user as the victim can turn fast enough to get the kill....
But maybe I am just more cautious when using knifes...
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1017
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:17:00 -
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My SR scares the kids away from my yard... well, except for the fatties, they don't seem to fear my presence.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2828
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:21:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:My SR scares the kids away from my yard... well, except for the fatties, they don't seem to fear my presence.
I own fatties with my adv scr, your lying or doing it wrong and I don't believe you would do it wrong so you are lying.
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shadow drake35
the death raiders
73
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:37:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:It balanced against the other rifles.
Sure, it performs a bit better than the other 'Assault' Variants, but it also uses about 2x the fitting resources.
I don't see it as any more of a problem as the other ones, and they are all getting nerfed, so all's well. yep dead right so use it on amarr helps that and amarr have higher cpu and pg i think either that it is really high
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:58:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I was using it earlier.. and I noticed how insanely powerful it is. It's too easy to get over 20 kills with it.. it's like the rail rifle but nobody really noticed.. Yup don't even need aim, you just need to spray in the general direction and you will melt everything in your path.... Am I the only one who noticed how (not gonna say OP) crazy powerful this against is against any suits.. people were crying that the charge shot scrambler is OP (which it isn't) but the assault is just fine... Well... Just another skill-less weapon in the hands of a skill-less player... Thoughts? Same or a little worse than the duvolle AR
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1017
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:58:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:My SR scares the kids away from my yard... well, except for the fatties, they don't seem to fear my presence. I own fatties with my adv scr, your lying or doing it wrong and I don't believe you would do it wrong so you are lying. Maybe.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
153
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Posted - 2014.03.10 20:07:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I was using it earlier.. and I noticed how insanely powerful it is. It's too easy to get over 20 kills with it.. it's like the rail rifle but nobody really noticed.. Yup don't even need aim, you just need to spray in the general direction and you will melt everything in your path.... Am I the only one who noticed how (not gonna say OP) crazy powerful this against is against any suits.. people were crying that the charge shot scrambler is OP (which it isn't) but the assault is just fine... Well... Just another skill-less weapon in the hands of a skill-less player... Thoughts? Same or a little worse than the duvolle AR I'd you look at the stats, it it's more powerful, has a higher RPM, and bigger clip than a duvolle. But overheats.. Well, it's suppose to over heat but it doesn't
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8077
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Posted - 2014.03.10 20:21:00 -
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Not actually making a comment in its defence but I'm pretty sure I can pick up any AR weapon...and I have all of them at ADV level (lvl 4 op) and can have 20/X games.....
I'm confused as to what you are basing this off of.
I mean 20/X game with an LR aren't that uncommon either.......
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